Talk:Blockade of the Gaza Strip
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![]() | On 7 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
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Opening sentence
[edit]@Makeandtoss My recent change was reverted [[[1]] This article is not only about Blockade since hammas took over in 2007. Gaza has been under varying level of bloackde since 1990's. It is explained in other parts. The opening para should reflect it. It should not tell user's that the blockade was implemented after 2007, which is misleading. Please tell me your objections so that it can be corrected Astropulse (talk) 22:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think the restructuring of the sentence to start with the Hamas takeover instead of the Israeli blockade was misleading; although I do not object to indicating the existence of an older blockade. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- So what is the aim of the 1990s blockade? This is missing from the opening paragraph. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is of course also on the basis of security despite security officials openly recognizing the limited value of closure for security purposes. More importantly, it was motivated by the policy of separation (to be become explicit public israeli policy in 2006): Israeli-Palestinian_conflict#Separation_of_the_Gaza_Strip DMH223344 (talk) 15:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- So what is the aim of the 1990s blockade? This is missing from the opening paragraph. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
I'd like to say that Israel and Egypt are currently blocking exit from the Gaza Strip. This should be in the first paragraph - possibly in the first sentence. Why? Because some people have the impression that it is only Israel that is responsible for the blockade. If it is true that also Egypt blocks (or restricts) this should be made clear.
However, a recent articl says:
- Israel Retains Control of Rafah Border Crossing Between Gaza and Egypt
Does this mean that Israel and Egypt both are blocking passage across the Gaza-Egypt border? Please advise. --Uncle Ed (talk) 16:12, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Israel is the principal actor due to its control over the majority of Gaza’s borders, and it blocks Gaza’s access to the West Bank. Israel also restricts imports, exports, electricity, water, etc. Egypt's closure of the Rafah crossing is mentioned in the lead. So, the article is really about the Israeli blockade of Gaza, not Egypt's. Egypt only controls the crossing into Egypt. As a sovereign country, it is allowed to do so, but what Israel has done is far more extensive. Astropulse (talk) 21:07, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- There is also an article on the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip (2023–present).
- I also wonder if it can be clarified that most (or nearly all) of the blockade is being imposed by Israel, while Egypt is only blocking Gaza's southern border.
- --Uncle Ed (talk) 20:27, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
Edit request 1 September 2025
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Description of suggested change: In the "Legality of the blockade" section, it currently says: "Security Council Resolution 1973, adopted after the September 11 attacks on the United States..."
That is incorrect — the correct resolution is Security Council Resolution 1373 (adopted on 28 September 2001 in response to those attacks). Source: United Nations Security Council Resolution 1373.
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− | [[United Nations Security Council Resolution | + | [[United Nations Security Council Resolution 1373|Security Council Resolution 1373]], adopted on 28 September 2001 after the September 11 attacks on the United States, obliges all member states to prohibit making resources available to militant organizations. |
41.44.9.98 (talk) 12:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
ICRC moved to talk
[edit]The article's section on the "legality of the Blockade" contained an entire paragraph concerning itself with the International Commitee of the Red Cross and it arguable special authority as "THE guardian of international humanitarian law":
... is the guardian of international humanitarian law, the law applicable in situations of armed conflict. This special role of the ICRC is now formally recognized in the Statutes of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, which have been adopted both by the components of the Movement and by the States party to the Geneva Conventions, that is, practically all the world's States. Article 5 of the Statutes states that the role of the ICRC is "to undertake the tasks incumbent upon it under the Geneva Conventions, to work for the faithful application of international humanitarian law applicable in armed conflicts and to take cognizance of any complaints based on alleged breaches of that law" (Article 5.2c), and also "to work for the understanding and dissemination of knowledge of international humanitarian law applicable in armed conflicts and to prepare any development thereof" (Article 5.2g).[1]
Regardless of whether all this is accurate (and I'd seriously question at least the claim that the ICRC is THE - i.e. the unique - guardian of international humanitarian law), it is a violation of NPOV to provide one organisation cited with such a bolstering statement, as this automatically also bolsters the opinion - and that's what it is - ascribed to it. One could equally add such paragraphs to other organisation quoted, even negative ones, e.g. regarding UNRWA's involvement in the events leading to the current hostilities. But we don't. Because this section is about reporting various opinions on the Blockade. Str1977 (talk) 14:24, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Sandoz, Yves (1998). "The International Committee of the Red Cross as guardian of international humanitarian law". International Committee of the Red Cross. Archived from the original on 10 October 2017. Retrieved 26 June 2018.
Deletion or new citation
[edit]This line's "The restrictions on movement and goods in Gaza imposed by Israel date to the early 1990s." citation is not a valid link. Please delete or supply a valid reference for such a claim. Wordsmatter101 (talk) 21:40, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
Edit request 10 October 2025
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Description of suggested change: Next to "cause" the page says: "Isolate Hamas after its takeover, prevent weapons smuggling and attacks, and exert political pressure" Which is very misleading. Hamas won fair elections as stated by third parties according to wikipedia's own sources after clicking the "takeover" link. I would suggest something more along the lines of: "Isolate Hamas after its electoral victory, and collectively punish the Gazan population"
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138.51.49.117 (talk) 19:31, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. I think that would skew POV too much from what it is now, so you would want consensus for a change like that. Nubzor [T][C] 20:04, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
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