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"After Vivek Agnihotri lashes out at Wikipedia, they edit The Kashmir Files description". India Today. 2 May 2022. Director Vivek Agnihotri is furious over Wikipedia for describing The Kashmir Files story as 'inaccurate' and 'associated with conspiracy theories'. This resulted in the online encyclopedia editing the description and removing 'associated with conspiracy theories'.
"Vivek Agnihotri SLAMS Wikipedia for editing the description of 'The Kashmir Files'". The Times of India. 3 May 2022. Vivek Agnihotri lashed out at Wikipedia for editing the description of his film 'The Kashmir Files'. The Wiki described the story of the film as 'fictional', 'inaccurate' and 'associated with conspiracy theories'.
"Vivek Agnihotri is furious as Wikipedia page calls The Kashmir Files 'fictional': 'Hurry, edit more'". Hindustan Times. 3 May 2022. The Wikipedia entry mentions that the film 'presents a fictional storyline centered around an exodus of Kashmiri Hindus' and that it 'depicts the early 1990s exodus to be a genocide, a notion that is considered to be widely inaccurate'.
"Vivek Agnihotri fumes as Wikipedia page refers to The Kashmir Files as fictional: 'Failing your secular credentials'". The Indian Express. 4 May 2022. Filmmaker Vivek Agnihotri expressed his fury regarding the description on Wikipedia about his recent hit, The Kashmir Files. The site referred to it as a 'fictional' story.
Subhash K Jha (5 May 2022). "Wikipedia gets it wrong again, and there is nothing Vivek Agnihotri can do about it". Firstpost. If Wikipedia is to be believed — and it's sickening and frightening how this self-help quick fix cocky rack of righteous knowledge is taken as the gospel truth by billions across the world—then The Kashmir Files, the film that has drastically revised decades-old mindsets on the savage slaying of Kashmiri Pandits in the 1990s, is nothing but a flickering fiction, a pack of lies, a web of deceit.

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Sequel / Extension - The Kashmir Files: Unreported

I think we should add information about the docu-series The Kashmir Files: Unreported, which is being seen as a sequel to the movie. the series contains interviews that were conducted as a part of the research for the film.

Some link: https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/kashmir-files-unreported-post-iffi-row-vivek-agnihotri-announces-kashmir-files-follow-up-film/article66204169.ece

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/vivek-agnihotri-unveils-series-the-kashmir-files-unreported-makes-big-claim-4228831

https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/exclusive-watch-pallavi-joshi-on-the-kashmir-files-unreported-nobody-calls-me-to-work-in-their-films-12910672.html

https://www.mid-day.com/entertainment/web-series/article/the-kashmir-files-unreported-vivek-ranjan-agnihotria-pallavi-joshi-promote-upcoming-series-at-dal-lake-23299878

Indian-administered Kashmir to Jammu and Kashmir/Kashmir region

Based on above discussion and my points in #lede change. I changed Indian-administered Kashmir to Kashmir region. I would like to have discussion on this name change. Please refer to my #lede change to voice for or against my opinion. ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 05:33, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On a similar note the article uses "Kashmir" and "Jammu and Kashmir" in the whole article except that spot. Viewers will be confused if IAK is used. ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 05:41, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted. The notice on this page, as you already noted, says "Editors are not permitted to modify the lede paragraph of this article without prior discussion and consensus on the talkpage", yet you changed it without gaining any such consensus for this change. Please ensure that you do so before making any more changes. I am quite surprised that an editor with as much experience as you have is incapable of understanding such a clear instruction. Black Kite (talk) 06:20, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, i opened the discussion here. @Black Kite Tell your views negative my points ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 12:46, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Black Kite repeating the points

let's keep the area generalized/neutral as "Kashmir region". see pages of Uri: The Surgical Strike, Jolly LLB 2, Operation Gold Fish, Shershaah, Wagah (film), Dunki (film), Chandu Champion, Amaran (2024 film), Kashmir Daily, Fighter (2024 film), HIT: The Third Case, Inshallah, Football, Junooniyat (of vivek agnihotri) use "Jammu and Kashmir"; Mission Kashmir, Shikara (2020 film), Leo (2023 Indian film) Tango Charlie, Sam Bahadur (film), Sita Ramam, Haider (film), Inshallah, Kashmir, Sheen (film) and all other movies use "kashmir". The Kashmir Files: Unreported also uses "Kashmir". If any change voice your opinions in Talk:The Kashmir Files#Indian-administered Kashmir to Jammu and Kashmir/Kashmir region before changes. This film was used to cater predominantly Indian audience. Also if you are using IAK in lede in 1 line why it gets converted abruptly to Kashmir and J&K lateron throughout the article. Refs supporting my views and more points are in #lede change

I have a request that if the designation of region doesn't change let's change all other articles. Purposely movies on military operations are likely to instill more dispute than this internal matter of India where in military films cross border issues create negative sentiments in rival nations of India. ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 12:57, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am not interested in talking about other issues as it might take the discussion in a different direction. Let us focus on clearing the issue related to The Bengal Files only. --ADWikiax (talk) 13:18, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ADWikiax@TricanaQ@Goswami21@PSDA1@Computeracct i understood that this article also has other issues and that you are busy with Bengal Files but just spend a moment to resolve this issue (sorry for pinging) ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 13:05, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Kashmir or Jammu and Kashmir or J&K is the correct usage.

It is the name(s) of the region(s).

As you noted, it gets changed to Kashmir and J&K later on in the article.

The use of the word Indian-administered is to deliberately used here to inflame sentiments in India. This is an Indian movie made to cater to mainly the Indian audience.

I support changing this in the lede(/lead paragraph) to Kashmir region. Computeracct (talk) 13:25, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree because "Indian administered Kashmir" and "Pakistan administered Kashmir" is how it is written everywhere else. Orientls (talk) 13:10, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We are interested in talking ONLY about The Bengal Files. Lets stick to the point. Thank you. ADWikiax (talk) 13:24, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Show me an Indian film this film is from Bollywood and we should discuss Indian films only. ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 13:24, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I said previously and I am saying it again. We are interested in talking ONLY about The Bengal Files. Let's stick to the point. Thank you. --ADWikiax (talk) 13:26, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Where exactly in any Indian film related context on wiki is it written as Indian Administered kashmir?

@B1058 has shown many articles where only Kashmir or Jammu and Kashmir r J&K is used.

Also everywhere else in the Kashmir Files article, it is written as kashmir or J&K -> The Kashmir Files Computeracct (talk) 13:28, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
lets focus on The Bengal Files for now. We will surely pick the other issues later. However we should not divert our attention from the current issue of incorrectly assigning attributes to a Historical Incident. ```` ADWikiax (talk) 13:32, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ADWikiax: fair enough. You can ignore this for now.

I'll prioritize Bengal files, but since it is locked, there is not much else to do for now.

If there is some action required, will check there.

if no action required there, I will update here in the Kashmir Files wiki (when I am free - not the highest of my priorities) Computeracct (talk) 13:36, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is just my suggestion. If you think a different course of action would be better, I’m happy to explore that as well. Open to further discussion. ADWikiax (talk) 13:39, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please let me know who locked the article? ADWikiax (talk) 13:40, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Orientls. Indian administered Kashmir and Pakistan administered Kashmir are the more accurate names and also more used by reliable sources and scholarship EarthDude (wanna talk?) 18:26, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Almost no one uses them in Indian film related articles.

@RIP B1058 has pointed out to so many wiki articles saying using Kashmir, J & K, jammu and kashmir.

Even this very article uses Jammu and kashmir, kashmir, J&K after the IAK in lede para. why do you think that is.

Now do sources use IAK and PAK? yes, but that's only in political/geopolitical conversation. Not in film related articles. Computeracct (talk) 18:33, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
adding to this The Kashmir Files: Unreported (literally almost the same film), Shikara (2020 film), Inshallah, Football, Inshallah, Kashmir literally deal with same topic/are the same topic but don't use IAK but still I am asking for neutral term Kashmir ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 18:39, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What's problem with "Kashmir" or "Kashmir Region" as this is a bollywood film we need to cater for Indian audience also. It is more neutral@EarthDude (i am not telling you to use "Jammu and Kashmir" if you think it hurts Pakistani and Chinese sentiments that might be more concerning for you than Indians, though i gave refs above telling J&K is a legit state of india) "Indian-administred Kashmir" is simply not a neutral word ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 18:34, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MBlaze Lightning your views on this ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 11:45, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Orientls@Gotitbro any opinion? Is IAK neutral or Kashmir? ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 11:46, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This article says :- " The following restrictions apply to everyone editing this article:

Editors are not permitted to modify the lede paragraph of this article without prior discussion and consensus on the talkpage.

Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page."‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 13:43, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

just for you to understand the context @Computeracct in future discussion. Only this line I want change:- "The film presents a fictional storyline[1][9] centred around the 1990 exodus of Kashmiri Hindus from Indian-administered Kashmir.[10][11]"

what and why to change i have said in all the above discussion. ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 13:39, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, I got it. Computeracct (talk) 13:41, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ADWikiax@Black Kite@Computeracct@EarthDude@Orientls can I change to "Kashmir", "Kashmir Region " a more neutral term than J&K or IAK and since no other Kashmir Region related movie this film body and related web series The Kashmir Files: Unreported don't use IAK. (This section just got archived so need a resolution) ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 07:01, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
a month since any discussion on this topic ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 15:21, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kautilya3: Are you sure about removing multiple sources and replacing them with an irrelevant hidden note that does not even justify the removal of the established term "India-administered"? You are citing Exodus of Kashmiri Hindus but this article also say "Kashmir valley in Indian-administered Kashmir following". You should refrain from misrepresenting that article to justify your removal of the term "India-administered". Also, remember that this page is under restriction that demands editors to gain consensus before changing any part of the lead. Orientls (talk) 14:53, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not involved with the "Indian-administered" bit. you guys can sort it out. I was correcting the factual error of claiming that the exodus occurred from the Kashmir region, which no source claimed. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:16, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have changed it to "from the Kashmir Valley in Indian-administered Kashmir" which is what our exodus article says. A majority of those displaced continue to live in Jammu, which is within Indian 'Kashmir'. UnpetitproleX (talk) 15:40, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My question is why even use "Indian-administred" in first place. This movie is made for Indian audience when the rest of the article and other Kashmir based film articles notably the "The Kashmir Files:Unreported" don't use IAK why we need IAK. My simple question again and again is IAK a neutral term? If you only think we need to change the lede why not just keep, "from the Kashmir Valley". @Orientls@Kautilya3@UnpetitproleX. ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 02:05, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also note that the RfC version of 2022 actually linked to Kashmir Valley. Someone must have changed that link to 'Kashmir' at some point, leading us here with the lead now inaccurately claiming a displacement of Kashmiri Hindus from the entirety of J&K and Ladakh, which did not happen. UnpetitproleX (talk) 15:51, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This film is designed for Indian audience. So the film page must don't hurt indian sentiments. Indians even would like to see J&K instead of IAK. On the other hand stating your concerns regarding the miniscule amount of subcontinental neighbouring countries foreign audience who don't use J&K terms may say IK, IOK, IAK and what not. The remaining negligible neutral European african countries are sufficied in Kashmir term. Having used Kashmir valley/region being in sync with topic. IAK creates a curiosity among readers for seeing a non familiar term and can create tensions among readers from different sections of our society. Having used Kashmir valley in that spot, It's unnecessary to keep IAK, as the wording looks redundant, that takes out the unnecessary limelight/spotlight, instead of what the movie is about. An important points to tell excluding references J&K is used t times in this page alongside the Kashmir valley/Kashmir neutral term.@EarthDude@UnpetitproleX@Orientls

Thus first I wanna plead you guys to explain me the neutrality of IAK with respect to Kashmir Valley or Kashmir Region term. ‍—⚰️NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 02:22, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 October 2025

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Please remove the unsourced text in parentheses, "- in line with Hindu Right views on the issue —" from the, "Political messaging and historical accuracy" section. 2409:40F2:41:E1DC:9065:37FF:FEF4:44D (talk) 20:38, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP user. I am not sure I understand what you mean, so for now:

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.

You may improve your request and set it to unanswered again, or you can ping me. If you have any other questions, you can also reach me at my talk page. Happy editing,
Slomo666 (talk) 21:06, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. x2step (lets talk 💌) 03:04, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]