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Left wing smear straw man terminology "nationalist"

Why not objective and name them "patriotic-conservative"??

Why do we allow left-wingers to frame parties in a negative way they dont like?? 93.206.57.177 (talk) 02:11, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

By "left-wingers," I assume you mean people who write about politics for academic publishers and mainstream news sources. We use their writings as sources rather than writings by far right extremists because the publications they write for are considered reliable. If you object to this policy, you need to get it changed rather than arguing here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Four Deuces (talk • contribs) 03:38, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The mainstream news sources have a massive left-wing bias and are for example in the USA rejected by the majority of voters.

CNN, Washington Post, MSNBC, CBS, PBS, NBC, ABC have a left-wing tilt and are considered biased and left-wing propaganda by nearly all Republicans.

According to the latest Gallup poll only a third of american voters trust mainstream news.

That`s your key problem: Your alleged "mainstream news sources" and "academic publishers" are NOT credible. Just listen to Jordan Peterson talking about the left-wing echo chambers he considers to be universities. 93.206.54.48 (talk) 00:56, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So we should listen to Jordan Peterson and Republicans on Facebook instead, those are the true reliable sources? TylerBurden (talk) 01:21, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All of them would be right wing tilted here in Sweden. 78.69.116.184 (talk) 17:49, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you think nationalism is something negative then that seems to more be a personal issue, because nationalism is an ideology. TylerBurden (talk) 21:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You do not call the left-wingers in swedish politics "far-left", "socialist" or "communist". Why do you have to frame parties you dont like in a negative way? SD would not consider themselves "nationalist", rather patriotic and conservative. 93.206.54.48 (talk) 00:59, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you making it personal? I do not personally think that SD is "far-right" either, but what I think and you think doesn't matter when it comes to the article content because it is based on what reliable sources say. You need to read WP:DUE, also WP:NOTFORUM while you're at it because this kind of rhetoric isn't going to do anything to improve the article at all. TylerBurden (talk) 01:19, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See their website: The Young Swedes "is a democratic socially conservative youth association with a nationalist outlook."[1] How is it a smear to call them what they call themselves? TFD (talk) 02:57, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They use the term themselves in their party statutes from 2021, in the first sentence (translated by me): “Sweden Democrats is a socially conservative party with a nationalist ethos”.^[1] Using it in the article is in no way employing “left wing smear straw man terminology”, and definitely has a place in the article. Hale-Borz (talk) 10:02, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Nationalist" is not a smear term. That is an accurate reflection of their party stance. 12.117.195.74 (talk) 15:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also on the right, yet I would not contest that this is an accurate statement of the party's ideology; one which does not necessarily have a negative connotation, either. This discussion should be closed. JustAPoliticsNerd (talk) 18:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://sd.se/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/partistadgar-2021.pdf

The SD or SD?

The article often contains "The SD" as a short form of "The Sweden Democrats", but sometimes just says "SD". But which one is correct? I personally think just SD sounds better, but maybe that's just because I'm influenced by Swedish where "SD = Sverigedemokraterna = The Sweden Democrats". Paditor (talk) 11:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The SD in English sounds better in my view. Helper201 (talk) 15:36, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request to change back to right-wing to far-right

I noticed the description of the SD's ideological positioning has been changed to exclusively far-right. While the SD can be considered leaning that way, some sources such as Johan Martinsson have disputed this as an exclusive label for the party. I request switching it back to "right-wing to far-right" based on academic analysis of the party. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ardyl (talk • contribs)

@User:Ardyl, if there are academic sources you are aware of describing the party as "right-wing" or "right-wing to far-right", then please provide them here, as the previous sources were all over 10 years old, and 2 of them were over 15 years old. AGEMATTERS on Wikipedia, as old sources are often out of date, and given both the amount and the recency of the sources for "far-right" alone, that's how the party should be labelled unless newer reliable sources are provided. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 07:04, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Far Right label inaccurate for today's SD

Hello

I am new to wiki editing and will get into it because I wish to improve the Sweden democrats wiki page.

I do not see how keeping in the far right label at all is justified for SD since they are not even potrayed like right wing extremists in Sweden anymore unlike 10 years ago. The party has and is changing a lot over time gradually and I dont think the wiki page for SD represents this. One can easily argue thay they are right wing (the party describes itself as social conseravtive with a nationalist foundation in its principle program) and that they are populist but Far Right is not justifiable. I would like to ask what is justifying keeping the Far Right label by this point?

I ask this because I am considering removing the far right label completely because none of their policy, rhetoric and so on today has anything that supposedly is Far Right and the party is activaly distancing itself from its past and expelling any local extreme politicans that are found.

If someone could comment on why it makes sense to keep it I am very open to hearing arguments. Melkor66 (talk) 19:36, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the party has changed much since 10 years ago. I think what made them far-right 10 years ago, and today, is more because of individual members' actions than what's in their party-program.

Take for example Björn Söder (equates pride with pedophilia) and Christina Nilsson (supports Active Club Networks, Swedish source). They are still in the party, so they don't seem to expel all extreme politicians.

And furthermore, multiple news sites still called them far-right as recent as 2024, e.g. Euractive and Le Monde. Paditor (talk) 21:26, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://sd.se/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/partistadgar-2021.pdf

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