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Ontology or Divine Nature

from Scripture

Jeremiah 23:24 and Acts 17:27-28; Jehovah himself actually fills the heavens and the earth and "in him we have life and move and exist"-Epimenides. It should be noted that the Apostle Paul quotes and espouses the teaching of pantheism.

from Logic

(|- {})

Assuming nothing, it follows that there is an assuming or thinking and this particular thinking having no content amount to the existence of the empty set. or the word nothing.

({} ≡ {})

nothing is nothing; four senses of "is" can be meant; of identity, of implication, of predication, and of existence;

{} = {}

nothing equals nothing;

{} ⇒ {}

nothing implies nothing;

id{}:{} → {}

nothing has the property of nothing;

∃{} → ∃{}

nothing exists as nothing;

(id{}:{} → {})∧(∃{} → ∃{})

nothing has the property of nothing and nothing exists as nothing; Nowhere and at no time has nothing existed. - Something has always existed everywhere.

({} = {})∧(∃{} → ∃{})

nothing equals nothing and nothing exists as nothing; Nothing is nonexistence. - Something has the particular characteristics of existence

({} ⇒ {})∧(∃{} → ∃{})

nothing implies nothing and nothing exists as nothing; Nothing causes nothing. - everything causes something.

({} = {})∧({} ⇒ {})

nothing equals nothing and nothing implies nothing; nothing is not implicated with something; Note; "nothing is not...", is the contraposition of "everything is..."; everything is implicated with something; Two or more things that are in a way implicated with each other can be understood as one thing implicated with itself. e.g. If a group of cells (such as the ones that make up your body) are in a way implicated with each other, they can be understood as one thing (namely your body) implicated with itself i.e. you are cybernetic.; something is self-implicated; Relevant implication suggests causation and is correlation. When it is impossible for there to be missing variables correlation necessarily is causation. Everything is implicated, so it is impossible for there to be missing variables.; something is self-causal; "causal" is not in the same declension as "caused"; the latter refers to an event in time, the former refers to a process through time. Self-causal means self-deterministic or teleological. Self-determinism is consciousness.

One thing is self-causal and has the particular characteristics of existence.;

Proof--The true definition of a thing neither involves nor expresses anything beyond the particular characteristics of the thing defined. From this it follows that--No definition implies or expresses how many individuals of the defined thing exist, inasmuch as it expresses nothing beyond the particular characteristics of the thing defined. There is necessarily for each individual existent thing a cause why it should exist. This cause of existence must either be contained in the particular characteristics and definition of the thing defined, or must be postulated apart from such definition. If a given number of individuals of a particular thing exist, there must be some cause for the existence of exactly that number, neither more nor less. Consequently, the cause of each of them, must necessarily be sought externally to each individual thing. It therefore follows that, everything which may consist of several individuals must have an external cause. And, as it has been shown already that existence appertains to the particular characteristics of something, existence must necessarily be included in its definition; and from its definition alone existence must be deducible. But from its definition we cannot infer the existence of several things; therefore it follows that there is only one thing that is self-causal and has the particular characteristics of existence.

Reality has the particular characteristics of existence (which is one thing that is also self-causal). But self-causal means self-deterministic. In other words, it is consciousness. Therefore reality is a monism panpsychism.

Nowhere and at no time has nothing existed. Therefore this one thing has always existed everywhere.

Nothing causes nothing. - everything causes something. Every cause (and every effect) of reality is part of the self-causal aspect of reality. Therefore the monism panpsychism (that is eternal and omnipresent) is also omnipotent.

The eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent consciousness has the same properties as the Divine. By the identity of indescernibles this one thing is the Divine. Therefore the Divine necessarily exists. QED.

Credits;

Socrates gave the law of identity

Spinoza proved monism first

Descartes attempted to assume nothing first

Leibniz gave the identity of indisernibles

Christopher Langan attempted to prove that Reality is self-deterministic first

John Hagelin said that the zero-point field is consciousness

from Science

Premise 1: Energy cannot be created nor destroyed

Premise 2: zero point energy is in every single point in space

Premise 3: power is the transformation of energy

ΔE = ΔE

ΔE/Δt = ΔE/Δt

ΔP = ΔE/Δt; axiom 1

ΔP = ΔE/Δs Δs/Δt

∇E = ΔE/Δs; axiom 2

ΔP = ∇E Δs/Δt

Δs/Δt = Δv; axiom 3

ΔP = ∇E Δv

dP = ∇E dv

∫dP = ∫ ∇E dv

proof; P = ∫ ∇E dv

E, energy

P, power

Δ, increment

d, derivative

∫, integral

∇, gradient

t, time

s, space

Conclusion 1: energy has always existed (P1)

Conclusion 2: energy is omnipresent (P2)

Conclusion 3: "energy contains the potential for all physical power within the constraints of known physical laws."-Google's Bard Gemini Pro (C1, C2, P3)

Conclusion 4: energy is eternal and omnipresent containing all power (C1, C2, C3)

If Jehovah is eternal and all power full (according to the Watchtower), and energy is eternal and all power full (according to my proof)...

then [ontologically] they are one and the same according to the identity of indiscernibles (∀F(Fx ↔ Fy) → x=y).

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