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Russia articles by quality and importance
Quality	Importance
Quality	Top	High	Mid	Low	NA	???	Total
FA	9	16	27	33			85
FL	2	4	6	3			15
FM					97		97
A	2	3	13	12			30
GA	26	37	120	242		5	430
B	221	296	530	878		293	2,218
C	381	688	1,412	3,373		959	6,813
Start	420	1,511	6,498	15,686	1	2,801	26,917
Stub	12	218	3,998	45,912	3	3,659	53,802
List	70	102	458	3,330	35	307	4,302
Category					23,955		23,955
Disambig					261		261
File					1,192		1,192
Portal					26		26
Project					140		140
Redirect		2	10	638	2,042		2,692
Template					4,484		4,484
NA				5	3		8
Other			1	2	141		144
Assessed	1,143	2,877	13,073	70,114	32,380	8,024	127,611
Unassessed	1	1	2	90		1,151	1,245
Total	1,144	2,878	13,075	70,204	32,380	9,175	128,856
WikiWork factors (?)		ω = 491,905			Ω = 5.45

Proposed deletion of Blackmailers (band)

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Tagged as Unreferenced and unimproved for more than 13 years. Tagged for Notability concerns for almost 2 years. No other language has any article from which to translate.

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Proposed deletion of Monument to Fyodor Ushakov (Rostov-on-Don)

The article Monument to Fyodor Ushakov (Rostov-on-Don) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Tagged as Unreferenced and unimproved for more than 7 years. Tagged for Notability concerns for more than 4 years. No other language has a reliably sourced article from which to translate. We are Not a memorial. The Ukrainian article might be a start.

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Requested move at Talk:Supreme Hockey League#Requested move 4 July 2025

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Requested move at Talk:Nikita Pustosvyat#Requested move

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Proposed deletion of Russian Squash Federation

The article Russian Squash Federation has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Tagged as Unreferenced for 13 years. Tagged for Notability concerns for 3 years. No other language has a reliably sourced article from which to translate.

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Requested move at Talk:Iran and the Russian invasion of Ukraine#Requested move 3 July 2025

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RfC: Omission of Russian SFSR from biographical infoboxes

As I discussed from Template talk:Infobox person#Subordinate countries in infoboxes, should we propose not to include "Russian SFSR" (or other Soviet republics) from biographical infoboxes what Mike Novikoff recommends per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE. Most edits are made to Vasily Utkin, Oleg Gazmanov, Valentina Tereshkova and Yuri Gagarin. Absolutiva 02:24, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: since this RFC is (or should be) not just about Russia but all Soviet republics, I think the WikiProjects for the other former Soviet republics should be notified as well. Helpful Cat {talk} 09:59, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've notified WikiProjects Ukraine, Belarus and Moldova (the other former Soviet republics don't seem to have WikiProjects), plus WikiProjects Soviet Union, Eastern Europe and Europe. Helpful Cat {talk} 16:12, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

No unless we include |citizenship=, or the subject held Soviet citizenship throughout their life. See MOS:INFONAT. Thedarkknightli (talk) 03:32, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No bar to inclusion. (Summoned by bot) I honestly don't see the argument for excluding under WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE; this information that might be useful to the average reader at a glance. Complex cases might require extra care with the question of nuanced labels or even omitting the field in certain cases, but I don't see that there is any value to a blanket ban.
That said, there's a more generalized procedural hurdle here that bears mentioning: per WP:Advice page, no result in this space is going to represent binding consensus on all of the involved articles. At best it will be a rule of thumb recommended by this WikiProject. You will still need to get local consensus on each involved article on which the issue arises, without being able to point back to this discussion as a valid reason to obviate further discussion. If you want a binding consensus for all affected articles, you will need to make a WP:PROPOSAL or host a discussion on a relevant WP:PAG or WP:MOS talk page to add verbiage to an existing guideline.
And while I'm at it, I think it's worth noting that I'm not sure how binding MOS:INFONAT is, considering that the relatively recent discussion in which it was created: 1) had a wide range of perspectives, 2) had no formal close, and 3) had all of a dozen participants (fairly weak consensus even if everyone in that discussion agreed on the best approach, which they very much didn't, as is evident from even a quick review). I think someone really went over-WP:BOLD in rendering their interpretation of that discussion into the MoS, and I expect it could easily be challenged (especially given how awkward, complicated, and idiosyncratic the added section is). I'd be careful about relying on it during even more complicated discussions in the area of nationality and infoboxes--at least for the immediate future. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 04:13, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See here for non-consensus addition to Template:Infobox person/doc, before it was removed as explained: this is almost undiscussed, yet currently an IP user populates it all over the place citing this doc as a valid reason. In particular, Moscow is the worst of possible examples (much like NY City), and linking an SFSR is contrary to MOS:GEOLINK. Absolutiva 06:22, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Exclude RSFSR at least for such obvious cases as Moscow and Leningrad (or their respective oblast). Everybody knows it's Russia, and it always has been. Diving into the purely formal details of the USSR's structure is unnecessary then, it gives no additional information in the context of a biography, and only distracts from the biography itself. Smaller and less well-known places may indeed require some extra care, but then again, remember that RSFSR alone is just too broad, it could be anywhere between Kaliningrad and Vladivostok, so the region such as Sverdlovsk Oblast should be specified for things like Butka, and that might be recognizable enough. Plus these smaller places (or their lesser-known regions) will usually be wikilinked.
To summarize, RSFSR is either redundant (for major cities) or not enough anyway (for smaller ones). — Mike Novikoff 20:50, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed entirely with Snow Rise. With regard to "exclude" rationales, I would say that Soviet "republics" are potentially akin to US and Australian states, Canadian provinces, and UK traditional/ceremonial counties or current unitary council areas (depending on period): they may be useful to include sometimes (in an infobox or otherwise), but are insufficient on their own. That is, under no circumstances should "USSR" be omitted when applicable, because RSFSR, etc., are meaningless to about 99.9% of our readers. However, as additional detail they may be useful to some, since they will link to a regional article that narrows down the location in a large and culturally diverse country or meta-country or however you like to think of the USSR and its CIS successor. I agree this is going to come down to consensus on a per-article basis. A Soviet statesman of national and international renown is apt to be thought of as Soviet/Russian by our readers, from an encyclopedic perspective, but a Kirghiz or Tajik or Modavian or whatever poet who was critical of the Soviet regime is more likely to be notable as Kirghiz or Tajik or Moldavian or whatever and may have even personally rejected a Soviet or Russian label. In short, avoid one-size-fits-all "solutions" because they generally solve nothing and create new problems; all are rarely actually fit one size. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:23, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Would recommend consistency, concerning all Soviet republics. But the treatment of the Baltics, makes that difficult. GoodDay (talk) 08:14, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No - Soviet republics are generally useful information because each Soviet republic corresponds to one of 15 modern countries. Including them in the infobox makes national origin clearer by indicating whether someone was born in today's Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, etc; in comparison, "born in the Soviet Union" is much less useful and applies to everyone from those 15 countries over 35.

Let's use Mikhail Gorbachev as an example: if the infobox just said Privolnoye, North Caucasus Krai, Soviet Union, I would not know where that is, and would have to read the article text to answer the basic question "Was Gorbachev born in Russia?" But because the infobox says Privolnoye, North Caucasus Krai, Russian SFSR, Soviet Union, I can get that information quickly.

There may be individual articles where the consensus is to not include Soviet republics, but as several editors said above, I don't see the need for a blanket ban. Also, as Thedarkknightli pointed out above, birth countries can be used to imply citizenship per MOS:INFONAT, and reducing them to just "Soviet Union" prevents this.

Mike Novikoff commented above that "RSFSR is either redundant (for major cities) or not enough anyway (for smaller ones)". I think that for major cities, there is an element of systemic bias in assuming which cities are "obviously" in Russia or another Soviet republic (even for something like Leningrad, a reader who's not from Russia, Eastern Europe or the West could be forgiven for being confused by the historical name changes, and clarifying doesn't hurt). And as for the argument that Russia is so big that RSFSR is not specific enough for more obscure places: I think the reason to include Soviet republics is not that they identify geographic coordinates, but that they identify country of origin because they correspond to modern countries. Therefore, I don't think "which part of Russia is this?" is more important than "this is in Russia", which is the implication of this argument.

I also concur that there shouldn't be one rule for Russia and another for the other 14 Soviet republics. Helpful Cat {talk} 13:56, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Axis of Upheaval#Requested move 24 July 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Axis of Upheaval#Requested move 24 July 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 12:00, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Poyushchie vmeste#Requested move 20 July 2025

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Requested move at Talk:2012 Mount Salak Sukhoi Superjet crash#Requested move 27 July 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2012 Mount Salak Sukhoi Superjet crash#Requested move 27 July 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 03:50, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Bayezit Bikbay

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Tagged as Unreferenced for 11 years. Tagged for Notability concerns for 3 weeks. No evidence of notability.

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Requested move at Talk:Russian invasion of Ukraine#Requested move 5 August 2025

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Requested move at Talk:On conducting a special military operation#Requested move 3 August 2025

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Proposed deletion of Flor Terentyev

The article Flor Terentyev has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Tagged as Unreferenced for 10 years. No other language has an article from which to translate. "The information about Flor Terentyev is extremely scarce." This is possibly a hoax.

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request for article translations and...

Here I've just spent the last hours running googletranslate to read certain article, and then to render Russian translation of my query... so here they are in Cyrilic since I took all the trouble - I'd thought I'd be able to find the Russian-language Wikiproject - but then remembered to look up this one '-)

_____ Привет из Британской Колумбии

Я больше не пишу в англоязычную Википедию, но интересуюсь некоторыми статьями, в том числе о Русской Америке и Аляске.

Вот перевод записи, которую я только что создал на странице обсуждения спора о границе Аляски https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alaska_boundary_dispute#The_Russian_edition_of_this_topic — обратите внимание на префикс en., возможно, ссылка теперь работает — ? — если нет, попробуйте изменить .en на .ru — ?

Соглашение между РАК и КГЗ — американское название, в канадской и британской истории это соглашение 1839 года известно как Англо-российская конвенция, а в британской — как Русско-британское соглашение (или Covention?). Русскоязычной интервики нет.

Если кто-нибудь, пожалуйста, напишет русскую версию, используя русские источники, уверен, это будет интересный контраст – как я только что обнаружил в ваших версиях пограничного спора и статьях о продаже Аляски.

Российский рассказ о продаже Аляски меня очень заинтересовал – здесь, в Британской Колумбии, есть история о том, что нам (то есть Великобритании) предложили купить Русскую Америку ПЕРВЫМИ, и только после того, как это предложение было отклонено, к нам обратился американский Сьюард.

Обратите внимание на рассказ лейтенанта Перелешина о путешествии по Стикину (Стахине) в 1862 году. Было бы интересно узнать больше о нём и об этом путешествии.

В русскоязычной версии статьи о золотой лихорадке Стикина есть два пропущенных Google Translate перевода: «choke» вместо французской фамилии «Choquette». Его личное имя — французская форма имени Александр, но кириллическая версия этого имени точно соответствует французской форме, так что нет необходимости это исправлять.

Вижу, что статьи о Форт Стикине на русском языке нет, но это интересная история, которую стоит рассказать, частично связанная с убийством старшего сына главного фактора Компании Гудзонова залива Джона Маклафлина; эта история заканчивается в Ситке, откуда Маклафлин отправился на север в поисках убийств своего сына. Дело было закрыто за отсутствием доказательств, что привело к тому, что Маклафлин перешёл на сторону США в споре об Орегоне.

Другой перевод касался золотой лихорадки Кассиара: «Cassar» — это уникальное слово из языка каска дена, означающее «ворон». Перенаправление на раздел «Золотая лихорадка Кассиара» в статье «Страна Кассиара»...(Cassiar Country)

Со мной можно связаться через skookum70.substack.com или skookum70 (@) substack.com — думаю, мои эссе на этой неделе об Аляске и о замыслах и деятельности «Манифеста Судьбы» в Западной Канаде будут вам интересны.

Вы увидите, что есть ссылки на сторону Британской Колумбии в споре об Аляске... Теперь, когда я увидел перевод ВАШЕЙ истории, я внесу в неё правки...

Если в русских источниках есть франкоязычные версии Договоров 1824–1825 годов и «Конвенции» 1839 года или переписки между Русской Америкой во время нашей золотой лихорадки 1858 года или когда-либо ещё, всё это будет интересно, спасибо.

Если кому-то нужны советы или предложения по темам по истории, географии или биографии Британской Колумбии, пожалуйста, обращайтесь. 2604:3D08:5776:7900:586F:5170:7AF9:ECD2 (talk) 03:05, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Murder of the Romanov family#Requested move 9 August 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Murder of the Romanov family#Requested move 9 August 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 09:59, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Nikolay Benardos#Requested move 9 August 2025

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Protecting Power in Ukraine

Does anyone know which country has been performing this role? Robin S. Taylor (talk) 14:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Balhae#Requested move 22 August 2025

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Template discussion

I've started a discussion about recent changes to Template:Russia–United States relations, Template:Soviet Union–United States relations, and Template:Vladimir Putin at Template talk:Russia–United States relations#Recent changes to templates (to keep the discussion centralized). Please feel free to join the discussion if you're interested! Woodroar (talk) 18:24, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Red Terror#Requested move 10 September 2025

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Requested move at Talk:Republics of the Soviet Union#Requested move 22 September 2025

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