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GA review

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Passed. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 19:42, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator: Gen. Quon (talk · contribs) 16:02, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: CatchMe (talk · contribs) 07:04, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Taking this. Expect comments in the upcoming hours. :) CatchMe (talk · contribs) 07:04, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well-written

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  • Add "(EP)" after "extended play" in the lead section.
  • "independent record label Dirty Hit" - MOS:SEAOFBLUE issue. I think "independent record label" is a common term so perhaps the link could be removed. It was independently released on 20 February 2018 by Dirty Hit." could also work.
  • "the EP was instead issued on February 20 under its present name." - I would change "present" for "final". I mean, it's not going to change anymore and it has already been released.
  • "All the Things I Never Said was initially released digitally, but a vinyl edition was made available on 16 March." - change "but" for "while"? Those aren't opposed things.
  • Link first mention of "Pale Waves" in the article's body.
  • "In 2015, Pale Waves, then comprising just" - "In 2015, Pale Waves, then composed of just" per WP:COMPRISEDOF.
  • Link demo in "recorded *demos* for" instead of "CD-R *demo tape*" since the former is first.
  • "In late 2017, following the release of "There's a Honey" and "Television Romance"," - the song titles are mentioned just before this so it's unnecessary to repeat them.
  • "Pale Waves began working on their debut EP" - "Pale Waves began working on their debut extended play (EP)".
  • " "There is a big build up to that night", Baron-Gracie explained when asked about the song. "There's so much expectation for something special [to happen on the holiday] so a lot of the time it goes wrong." " - this could be worded better. Maybe "When asked about the song, Baron-Gracie explained that "there is a big build up to that night". She continued: "There's so much expectation for something special [to happen on the holiday] so a lot of the time it goes wrong." "
  • The sentence starting with "Although Baron-Gracie and Doran" is way too long. Consider splitting it.
  • Remove the second link to "New Year's Eve".
  • "Critical reception to the EP has been largely positive." - "Critical reception to the EP was largely positive." It's been years since it's release so I don't think there are still more reviews in the works.
  • Link indie pop in the body.
  • Remove the second link to The Line of Best Fit and put that text in italics.
  • " DIY magazine called the song a "shimmering pop gem with a melancholy twist as the soaring hook" " - this doesn't make sense. The quote was cut but it continued. However, see my comment below about paraphrasing some quotes.
  • "Initially, slated to be released" - no need for the comma.
  • In the Commercial performance section I don't see anything about commercial performance, just the release information.
    I believe these issues should have been taken care of.--Gen. Quon[Talk] 16:37, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Verifiable

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  • Most sources are listed on WP:RSMUSIC or WP:RSP, but
    • Per WP:NOTRSMUSIC, Far Out and PopCrush are unreliable, the former for being a churnalism website.
    • Are Riot and MXDWN reliable or relevant for inclusion in prose?
    I've removed all sources, save for PopCrush, since the info taken from that source is based on an interview with the band that isn't "unduly self-serving".--Gen. Quon[Talk] 16:13, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • A song being added to the BBC Radio playlist does not mean it was *sent* to radio in the UK per WP:SINGLE? (see note b). So "It entered contemporary hit radio rotation in the United Kingdom on December 15, 2017." and "It was serviced to UK contemporary hit radio on March 23." should be removed.
    Done.--Gen. Quon[Talk] 16:13, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Attribute all quotes. E.g. in the quotation "shimmering dance-tinged" add "according to..."
  • For the above and other cases, add the writer's names too. E.g. "which NME's Tom Connick called" instead of "which NME called".
    For both this and the previous comment, I tried to cull or/copyedit the issues.--Gen. Quon[Talk] 16:24, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Earwig's Copyvio shows copyright Violation possible with the highest similarity at 50.0%. It mostly highlights the quotation; are you sure all of it is essential for this article?
    It looks like the top three sources that are being dinged are variations of the same Billboard article. The offending text in question is a block quote. To fix this issue, I went ahead and cut down the block quote.--Gen. Quon[Talk] 16:22, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suggest you to consider paraphrasing some quotes from the Critical reception section.
    How does this look?--Gen. Quon[Talk] 16:36, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some references need access-date and links in website/publisher.
    I believe I've patched these issues up.--Gen. Quon[Talk] 16:42, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Spot-check with numbers as of this revision:

Broad

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  • No issues.

Neutral

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Stable

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  • No edit wars or even much movement in the article's history.

Illustrated

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Final comments

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There are issues that I think can be addressed within the GAN. @Gen. Quon: I will put this  On hold for now. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 08:03, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CatchMe: Thank you for taking the time to review this. How do these changes look?--Gen. Quon[Talk] 16:45, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The changes look great! I did minor changes if you don't mind. I see no present issues so I will  Pass this nomination. Congratulations! CatchMe (talk · contribs) 19:39, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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