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Controversies?
[edit]Why are this man‘s crimes being called “controversies” when other pages use legal terminology for convicted criminals? Being convicted of raping a woman is not a controversy. Punching an old man in the face in front of witnesses is not a controversy. Call them what they are. 24.140.204.84 (talk) 03:19, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- All of that should go under a "Criminal History" category 2603:8081:8700:2732:4E9F:87AA:6CDE:9090 (talk) 18:45, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps it would be best to have separate subsections for convictions and allegations. Autarch (talk) 05:13, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Conor McGregor: Mixed martial artist, rapist
[edit]I feel like the fact that a jury found that he raped a woman is going under in the article. Especially considering the additional numerous cases of alleged sexual assault and assault that he faced. I'm not a professional when it comes to Wikipedia's rules, however just from a personal human perspective I feel like a convicted rapist should immediately be recognisable as such in the first sentence and not just after 4 paragraphs of all his athletic achievements. To me that seems like an essential thing to know about a person. Why not something along the lines of "Conor McGregor is an Irish professional mixed martial artist, businessman and convicted rapist." Isn't that just as important as the other facts about him? FrittenFloeter (talk) 23:45, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Following this suggestion, added a brief reference in the first paragraph. Iandaandi (talk) 06:42, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- And I have updated the opening sentence. He hasn't fought (in the ring) in four years, and is arguably just as well known now for his arrests, civil and criminal trials, etc. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 22:45, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I amended the opening sentence, as mentioned. There seems to be consensus for inclusion of "convicted criminal" and MOS:LEAD specifically states the lead
"should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies.
WP is not censored. This and this demonstrate that McGregor is as well known now for his civil and criminal convictions as he is for anything else. (And he won't be a "politician" until he actually runs for office).
- It would be helpful if those who disagree could discuss here, rather than just reverting. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:17, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- "trial" and "isn't". Anyways, just saying so many others who were convicted if not also just involved in crimes like this often have lengthy sections depicting the circumstances, controversies, and results. His profile doesn't speak on this rape charge much at all. 2600:6C55:7200:51:B9A3:86CF:3D46:89C6 (talk) 21:26, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm surprised this triap is under his "Personal" section. Seems to be barely glossed over in the opening paragraphs. 2600:6C55:7200:51:B9A3:86CF:3D46:89C6 (talk) 21:23, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
Should we categorize someone as a rapist based on a civil case, not a criminal conviction? Is there a consensus on Wikipedia? PatGallacher (talk) 16:07, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- There is - this was previously discussed, please see Talk:Conor McGregor/Archive 5. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:13, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
Not necessarily, see some discussion at Talk:David Goodwillie and the category "Rapists". Maybe we should change, but this needs to be discussed at the latter place. PatGallacher (talk) 17:01, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
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Change Jose Aldo UFC 194 method of victory from «KO (punch)» to «KO (left hook and punches)» Jorgenkastnesolsen (talk) 23:47, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Fight endings are as sourced, by Sherdog. Nswix (talk) 00:05, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
Azealia Banks dick pic
[edit]Although the sources used for him sending his penis to Azealia Banks is fine, I don't think it warrants a section as Banks herself downplayed her accusation less than 24 hours later, and it didn't stick in the news for more than a day. See WP:NOTNEWS and WP:RECENTISM- unless if this flares up again then I doubt it's encyclopedic. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 02:40, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Status quo. It is well-source and also a world news. Cassiopeia talk 02:50, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
Removal of Person Infobox
[edit]I'm not convinced by why @Nswix removed the person infobox change. Conor McGregor is not just a martial artist - he regularly makes political statements, has aspirations of political office in Ireland and is well-known in Ireland for his court appearances. This change had been proposed in this Talk page, and was recently archived with no objections registered. David Malone (talk) 18:02, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've reverted the change - anyone who wants to remove it can argue their case here. Autarch (talk) 03:55, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Autarch: The criminal charges box isn't for every single actor and athlete who's gotten speeding tickets and assaulted paparazzi. It's for convicted felons, murders and people's whose notoriety is BECAUSE of their crimes. Not whose crimes are reported because they're notable. Nswix (talk) 04:13, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Nswix: McGregor was initially famous due to MMA fighting, then expanding into business. His last fight seems to have been in 2021 and he has a long list of convictions - an assault conviction in 2009, the 2019 assault conviction, a long list of driving offences and being found liable for sexual assault in 2024. He may have started as an MMA fighter, but he's as infamous for being in legal trouble nowadays as for his MMA fights. I think this makes him different, as crimes are what he's been in the news for the last few years. Autarch (talk) 04:46, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- I did a quick check this morning (before the news coverage of today's appeal decision started) of what Google News stories were visible for McGregor. The rough breakdown was: Sports 12, Court 39, Lifestyle/Gossip 17, Pub Fire 19 and Politics 7. It does seem he is currently better known for court appearances than sport.
- I'm also not sure that characterising him as simply an athlete who has "speeding tickets and assaulted paparazzi" is fair. The 2019 assault was an attack by him on a random customer of a bar, and the older assault was when he was a plumber, so I doubt there were many paparazzi harassing him. His convictions arising form his 2022 driving were for dangerous driving and failing to produce documents, where he drove through a red light in a bus lane, nearly hit another car and then had to be chased down by a garda through traffic. The judge described it as "an appalling series of breaches of the road traffic rules and an appalling episode of dangerous driving." I honestly don't know if he has assaulted paparazzi too, but these both seem of a different character. David Malone (talk) 14:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Agree with Autarch and Dwmalone - it's entirely appropriate to use the infobox person template. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:16, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't have a problem with them changing the format, I reverted cause I think it looks dumb having "20+, including driving offences and assault" on there. It's clearly not what the parameter is meant for. Go put it on Mike Tyson or Martha Stewart's page and watch how fast it gets deleted. Nswix (talk) 16:24, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Happy to consider a less goofy wording, if you can come up with one. The 2024 article said "McGregor had 20 previous convictions, 17 traffic offences, including three speeding offences, two public order charges, and one for assault causing harm between 2011 and 2019.", so which is why I went for that wording, as he would have the extra convictions from the 2024 sentencing, plus what they listed. Would "assault, public order and traffic offences" be better? David Malone (talk) 18:39, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't have a problem with them changing the format, I reverted cause I think it looks dumb having "20+, including driving offences and assault" on there. It's clearly not what the parameter is meant for. Go put it on Mike Tyson or Martha Stewart's page and watch how fast it gets deleted. Nswix (talk) 16:24, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Agree with Autarch and Dwmalone - it's entirely appropriate to use the infobox person template. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:16, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Autarch: The criminal charges box isn't for every single actor and athlete who's gotten speeding tickets and assaulted paparazzi. It's for convicted felons, murders and people's whose notoriety is BECAUSE of their crimes. Not whose crimes are reported because they're notable. Nswix (talk) 04:13, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
Presidential election petition
[edit]I'm wondering about the inclusion of this. It made a few column inches yesterday, I guess, but seeing as he's looking for the impossible, he won't be on the ballot in November and this will be a non-issue in the next Irish presidential election. The conditions to be eligible to be placed on the ballot are set out in the constitution of Ireland. The constitution can't be changed without a referendum. A referendum could not be called and held between now and the presidential election. It therefore just seems like a publicity stunt, and WP:NOTNEWS and WP:10YEARTEST should probably apply. Thoughts? Pinging Cassiopeia, Dwmalone. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 15:38, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that it would be impossible to change the constitution before the election. Even if there was a real demand, the Dail is in recess at this point. If I really wanted it changed, I would have asked considerably earlier in the year. I agree it will not be important news in ten years, unless the story evolves in a particularly strange way. David Malone (talk) 18:01, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest to keep the "Presidential election petition" section in the article. The proposed "Presidential election petition" section is supported by a documented timeline of Conor McGregor's political activities, which have received significant media coverage.
- Here is a summary of these events:
- December 5, 2023: McGregor first expressed his interest in a potential run for the Irish presidency - - see here-1 by Yahoo news.
- September 12, 2024: His presidential ambitions were reported to have re-emerged, nine months after his initial comments - here-2 by Sydney Morning Herald.
- March 17, 2025: During a meeting with Donald Trump at the White House, he publicly condemned Irish immigration policy - here -3 Guardian.
- March 21, 2025: Four days after his White House visit, McGregor officially announced his intention to run for the Irish presidency on an anti-immigration platform. This was approximately a year and a half after he first expressed political interest - - see here -2 by CNN.
- The sustained media attention over a period of eighteen months, culminating in the recent petition, demonstrates that his political aspirations are a notable part of his public biography. This continued coverage, along with his other well-documented combat and business activities and legal issues—including a civil rape case, online rants, and controversies surrounding his personal conduct—provides sufficient grounds for inclusion in a Wikipedia article. The section is not about the ultimate success of his campaign but about a significant, publicly reported aspect of his life. Regards. Cassiopeia talk 22:54, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not suggesting removing the presidential election section, merely the sentence on the petition. My point is, it's WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTNEWS. If his petition got 1 million signatures today and they were all from Irish citizens, it's completely and utterly immaterial; the change he wants would require a constitutional referendum, which can only be called by Dáil Éireann, who a) wouldn't do it, and b) even if they wanted to, couldn't, as they're in recess until 17th September. If in the unlikely event that on Day 1, government TDs and Senators decided the petition was a great idea and they should change the constitution to allow McGregor to run, they would still need to pass a bill calling a referendum. That would take a minimum of a week (and I'm being hugely generous there!) to be drafted, get passed by the Dáil, go to the Seanad, go Oireachtas committees, etc., so we're up to 24th September. It would then need to go to the president to be passed into law. Assuming he didn't refer the matter to the Council of State or to the Supreme Court, and he signed the referendum bill into law the day it was received, the referendum could still not be held for a further 30 to 90 days. The election will be in November.
- All this to say, McGregor's petition is absolutely meaningless. Now, either a) he knows this, and is just doing it for the publicity; or b) he doesn't know it, thereby demonstrating he isn't qualified to be a local councillor, let alone head of state. Either way, the petition will not even be a footnote in history. WP:UNDUE, WP:NOTNEWS and WP:10YEARTEST all apply. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 09:01, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- It is not about "if" nor the petition is meaningless, as many politician petitions or campaigns went no where; it is about recording the subject activity and life which it has been recorded for 1/3 years of his intention to run for the presidency. If you insist then the whole "2025 Irish presidential run and White House visit" section should be removed as if he not qualify anyway as per your discussion. Cassiopeia talk 09:13, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
The Sun
[edit]Recently, the Irish Sun and the Scottish Sun were used as sources - both are deprecated as they are localised editions of the Sun, which is deprecated - see WP:THESUN. Autarch (talk) 23:14, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
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Omcho01 (talk) 09:16, 29 September 2025 (UTC) Conor is 5'9 on every source ever - and eye to eye with all of his 5'9 opponents while being taller then Floyd and Chandler who are both 5'8 - Conor is not 5'8
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. "Every source ever" is not a valid citation. Aston305 (talk) 11:04, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- As per Sherdog, he is listed at 5'8. GOAT Bones231012 (talk) 14:36, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
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