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September thanks

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story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in September! - Today is the birthday of the 16th Thomaskantor after Bach, remembered. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My 100th biography to the Main page in 2025 is Siegmund Nimsgern. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:40, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First entry - question about referenced

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I'm writing my first entry (draft:Shane Appell). I have two questions about the referenced section: 1. How can I delete references? I inadvertently wrote the same reference twice and would like to delete redundancies. 2. There were instances when I didn't use "cite" after the text I wanted to add a reference to but rather added a reference without attaching it to a text. Is there any way to connect the reference to the text after which the citation will appear? תמי ניניו (talk) 18:11, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I replied to your question at The Teahouse. It's best to keep such discussions in one place, not least so that others can follow along or join in. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:16, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft mix-up needs correction - wrong version moved to Draft:Anil Bahuman

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Hello,

I need help resolving a draft mix-up that occurred during recent page moves. Here's the situation:

Background:

  • I submitted an AfC draft at User:Bahuman/AnilBahuman
  • A colleague had separately created Draft:Anil Bahuman (on my request, but posted it without my knowledge assuming it was only a local draft that can be finalized later)
  • Both drafts were about the same person (me)

The Problem: When someone from Teahouse helped move drafts to correct namespaces, my colleague's draft (the older, less complete version) ended up at the main location Draft:Anil Bahuman, while my more comprehensive, properly sourced version appears to have been lost or overwritten.

Current Status:

  • Draft:Anil Bahuman now contains my colleague's outdated version
  • My updated version with better sourcing and proper Wikipedia formatting is no longer accessible
  • This creates a problem for AfC review since the wrong version is at the primary location

Request: Could you help restore my version to Draft:Anil Bahuman? My version had:

  • More comprehensive sourcing from independent sources
  • Proper Wikipedia formatting and structure
  • Detailed reviewer notes on the talk page
  • Better compliance with WP:BLP and WP:V

I can provide the full text of my version if needed, or if there's a way to recover it from edit histories.

This was an honest mix-up during the namespace correction process, and I want to ensure the correct version gets reviewed by AfC.

Thank you for your assistance.

Bahuman (talk) 19:31, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've marked the earlier draft for deletion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:34, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - I will update on my end. Bahuman (talk) 20:06, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #698

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-09-22. Missed the previous one? See issue #697.

Events

  • Upcoming events:
    • Exploring Seediq: A Journey through Translation and Linked Data Documentation 25 October .This event will showcase the Seediq communities’ translation of the OCLC white paper on Wikibase, followed by an overview of the full paper. It will conclude with an open discussion on the lessons learned during the translation project and broader reflections on linked data.
    • Govdirectory US office hour, 25 September
    • FREE virtual 1hr Wiki webinar focusing on plant biodiversity. Open to anyone wanting to improve their digital outreach skills by enriching Wikidata. Tuesday 14th of October at 3pm NZST. Register to get link.
    • Wikidata’s 13th Birthday is just around the corner! Are you planning to host a celebration but haven’t added it to the calendar yet? Join the party! Thirty-nine (39) events are already scheduled, and yours can be too: Birthday Calendar. It’s also the perfect time to contribute a birthday present or message to this list. Gifts can be anything that celebrates Wikidata and its amazing community like a script you’ve written, a tool improvement, a visual, a poem... 🎉

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • Duplicity This tool can pick a random article on a wiki without associated Wikidata item, and offer some possible matches on Wikidata, so you can add it to an existing item, or create a new one.

Other Noteworthy Stuff

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Development

  • Mobile statement editing: We are working more on the editing state of statements, especially qualifiers and progress indicators during saving (phab:T402620)
  • Dumps: We fixed an issue with some of the dumps (phab:T403882) and are improving the monitoring
  • GraphQL: We are working on making it easier to get labels of linked entities in an API response, starting with Items (phab:T404692)
  • Sustainability: We have now rolled out improvements to the tracking of Wikidata changes on the other Wikimedia projects on all projects in order to decrease the size of the database table that tracks these changes (phab:T401288)
  • Bug fixes: Tacsipacsi submitted fixes for two issues in error messages on Special:SetSiteLink. Thank you! (phab:T404499, phab:T404500)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

Tech News: 2025-39

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

  • On September 24th at 15:00 UTC, all Wikimedia sites users will experience a brief read-only period due to a scheduled datacenter server switchover. The Wikimedia Foundation's Site Reliability Engineering (SRE) team will redirect all traffic from one primary server to its backup. You can listen to the switchover using the "Listen to Wikipedia" tool, where you will hear edits stop for a few minutes during the read-only phase, then resume. This twice-yearly datacenter server switchover ensures reliability by testing the backup datacenter, so that our sites can stay online even if the primary datacenter fails. You can read more about the process on the Diff blog.

Updates for editors

  • Editors of 60 more Wiktionaries will soon be able to call functions from Wikifunctions and integrate them into their pages. A function takes one or more inputs and transforms them into a desired output, like adding numbers, converting miles to meters, calculating elapsed time, or declining a word into a case. They will join the other 65 Wiktionary language editions, which already have access to embedded Wikifunctions calls. Later this year, plans are in place to expand to more Wiktionaries and the Incubator.
  • A new parser function has been added: {{#contentmodel}}. Template editors and admins can use it to get the localized or canonical name of the content model of a specific page. The function makes it easier to create and edit system messages, such as MediaWiki:editinginterface, even when you switch types of pages, like wiki, JavaScript, CSS or JSON page. [1]
  • Adding or editing a DISPLAYTITLE for an article using VisualEditor will no longer be broken. Editors who use VisualEditor mode to modify the {{DISPLAYTITLE}} would no longer have the literal text "DISPLAYTITLE" or its localized variant added to their articles. A list of pages that may have been affected and might need cleanup is documented in this ticket.
  • Beta users of the Wikipedia Android app can now try the redesigned Activity tab, which replaces the Edits tab. The new tab offers personalized insights into reading, editing, and donation activity, while simplifying navigation and making app use more engaging.
  • Recurrent item View all 12 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Updates for technical contributors

  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

In depth

  • Wikifunctions users can now import many essential facts involving geo-coordinates, quantities and time values from Wikidata. This is made possible by the creation of Wikifunctions types for these values, which makes them available for use by functions in Wikifunctions. Learn more about how this works in this video and Wikifunctions' August 1 newsletter (for quantities) and August 22 newsletter (for geo-coordinates).

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:52, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse archive

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Hi,

What was the point of archiving this? Sure, it was likely just someone partly trolling but otherwise was a fair question to ask. It might have also invited a couple thought-provoking responses from other Wikipedians/Teahouse hosts.

Not really a good look to archive an inquiry this fast. It only enables them to doubt and throw shade at Wikipedia more, not less. Dissoxciate (talk) 16:14, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't a request for help, and it didn't assume good faith. Had it not been The Teahouse, the accusation about other editors would probably have been blockable.
See also WP:NOTAFORUM. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:26, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 233, September 2025

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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 11:54, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Infamy

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(They've all got it infamy.) Is this surreal, or is it me that's going nuts? -- Hoary (talk) 22:02, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:25, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #699

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-09-29. Missed the previous one? See issue #698.

Discussions

  • Open request for adminship: Empat Tilda: RfP scheduled to end after 3 October 2025 18:30 (UTC)

Events

  • Upcoming events:
    • New Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group project series! Mark your calendars for our first session of our WikiProject Personal Pronouns event series, which will provide a high-level overview of WikiProject Personal Pronouns' goals, past work, and implementation plans. The session will also serve as a practical orientation to the implementation work for this project, ending with a demonstration of the workflow to be used in subsequent sessions. No previous Wikidata experience is needed to participate. This session will be recorded. Slides and recordings will be found on the project page after the session. Join us Tuesday, September 30th at 9am PT/ 12pm ET/ 16:00 UTC / 6pm CEST (Time zone converter). Please see our project page for more information and Zoom links.
    • Wikidata are hosting a webinar on the Embedding Project: AI/ML Project Manager Philippe Saadé (WMDE) will introduce the project, including early experiences, wins and pitfalls, and open up the floor to your questions.
    • 🎁 Countdown to 13!🎁 Wikidata's 13th Birthday is fast approaching and this week marks the start of the first Birthday Events! For a full rundown of all Birthday Events, please see the Birthday Calendar.

Starting the month of celebrations this week include: Wali Wikimedians Community, Latin America in Wikidata 2025, Hausa Wikipedians User Group and the language communities of Zambia, Twi and Kinyarwanda and regional celebrations from the Northern Nigerian, Dagbani and Ghanaians Wikimedian communities!

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

Other Noteworthy Stuff

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Development

  • Mobile statement editing: We continue to make good progress, which you can check out on beta Wikidata. Specifically it is now possible to
    • save changes to edits made to string Properties on statements (without losing qualifier / reference information) (phab:T401405)
    • change the rank of statements (phab:T402436)
  • Query Service UI: jhsoby submitted patches for two issues related to the example dialog. Thank you! (phab:T405747, phab:T405720)
  • Lexicographical data: 1F616EMO submitted a patch to fix a localization issue on the Lexeme page. Thank you! (phab:T322526)
  • Dumps: We fixed issues with the n-triples and truthy dumps generation and set up a dashboard for monitoring (phab:T403882)
  • GraphQL: We are continuing to make labels of linked entities accessible in the GraphQL endpoint (phab:T404692)
  • Wikidata in Wikipedia and co: We are continuing to work on improvements to how we technically track the use of Wikidata in the other Wikimedia projects in order to reduce the amount of changes from Wikidata in the watchlist and recent changes on Wikipedia and co.
  • Wikidata Query Service GUI: We deployed two fixes by User:Jon Harald Søby, thank you! (phab:T405720, phab:T405747)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

Women in Red | October 2025, Vol 11, Issue 10

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Women in Red | October 2025, Vol 11, Issue 10, Nos. 326, 327, 350, 351, 352
Recognized as the most active topic-based WikiProject by human changes.


Online events:

Announcements:

Tip of the Month:

  • Notable does not always mean admirable; you don't have to like an article's subject to make the article a useful contribution to Wikipedia.

Progress ("moving the needle"): Statistics available via various tools: previously, Humaniki tool; currently, QLever.
Thank you if you contributed one or more of the 6,283 articles during this period:

  • 19 May 2025: 20.114% of EN-WP biographies are about women (2,066,280; 415,618 women)
  • 24 September 2025: 20.20% of EN-WP biographies are about women (2,088,533 biographies; 421,901 women)

Other ways to participate:

--Rosiestep (talk) 18:32, 29 September 2025 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

Tech News: 2025-40

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

  • A major software upgrade has been made to Phabricator. The update introduces performance improvements, a refreshed search interface, enhancements to Maniphest task search, updates to user profile pages and project workboards, new Herald automation features, as well as general text input, mobile experience improvements and more. [2]

Updates for editors

  • The Community Tech team will release the new Community Wishlist extension on October 1, that will improve the way wishes will be submitted. The new extension will allow users to add tags to their wishes to better categorise them, and (in a future iteration) to filter them by status, tags and focus areas. It will also be possible to support individual wishes again, as requested by the community in many instances. The old system will be retired. There will be a brief period of downtime while the extension is deployed and wishes are migrated to the new system. You can read more about this in the latest update or you can consult the current documentation on MediaWiki.
  • As announced on Diff blog, the production trial of the hCaptcha service for bot detection has begun. The trial is currently using hCaptcha to protect account creation on Chinese, Persian, Portuguese, Indonesian, Japanese, and Turkish Wikipedias, where it will replace our existing CAPTCHA (FancyCaptcha). The goal with the trial is to better block bots while also improving usability and accessibility for users who encounter CAPTCHA challenges.
  • The CampaignEvents extension has been deployed to Wikimedia Commons. The extension makes it easier to organize and participate in collaborative activities, like edit-a-thons and WikiProjects, on the wikis. On Commons, anyone who is a registered user can use it as an event participant. To use it as an organizer, someone needs to have the event organizer right.
  • Sub-referencing, a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to German Wikipedia. You can test the feature on testwiki or on betawiki as well. Please share your thoughts on using templates in sub-references or volunteer to become a pilot wiki.
  • On wikis using the Mentorship system, communities can now opt experienced editors out of Mentorship through Special:CommunityConfiguration/Mentorship. Within this setting, communities may define thresholds, based on edit count and account age, to decide when an editor is considered experienced enough to no longer receive Mentorship. [3]
  • The Editing Team and the Machine Learning Team are working on a new check for newcomers: Tone check. Using a prediction model, this check will encourage editors to improve the tone of their edits, using artificial intelligence. We invite volunteers to review the first version of the Tone language model for the following languages: Arabic, Czech, German, Hebrew, Indonesian, Dutch, Polish, Russian, Turkish, Chinese, Farsi, Italian, Norwegian, Romanian and Latvian. Users from these wikis interested in reviewing this model are invited to sign up at MediaWiki.org. The deadline to sign up is on October 3, which will be the start date of the test.
  • The rollout of multiblocks had the side effect that non-active block logs may have been shown on Special:Contributions and on blocked users' user and user_talk pages. This issue will be fully resolved in a few days. As part of the fix, messages prefixed with sp-contributions-blocked-notice will be removed and replaced with those prefixed with blocked-notice-logextract in a few weeks. Please help translate the new messages and update any local overrides if needed.
  • There was a bug with links added using visual editor if they included characters such as [ ] | after the fragment identifier (#). They were not encoded properly creating an incorrect link. This has been fixed. [4]
  • One new wiki has been created: a Wikiquote in Malay (q:ms:) [5]
  • Recurrent item View all 21 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the User Info Card now displays currently active global lock/blocks. [6]

Updates for technical contributors

  • Later this week, editors using Lua modules will be able to use the mw.title.newBatch function to look up the existence of up to 25 pages at once, in a way that only increases the expensive function count once.
  • A new Unsupported Tools Working Group has been formed as part of ongoing efforts to collectively determine technical work priorities, similar to the Product & Technology Advisory Council (PTAC). The working group will help prioritize and review requests for support of unmaintained extensions, gadgets, bots, and tools. For the first cycle, the group will be prioritizing an unsupported Wikimedia Commons tool.
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:48, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 18

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Here is a quick overview of highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation since our last issue on September 13. Please help translate.

Upcoming and current events and conversations
Let's Talk continues

  • CEE Meeting: Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2025 will be held in Thessaloniki, Greece, September 26-28.
  • Learning Clinic: The next Let's Connect Learning Clinic will talk about "Mastering the Capacity Exchange (CapX) Tool" and will take place on September 30 at 13:00 UTC.
  • Big Fat Brussels Meeting: The tenth in-person gathering of Wikimedians enthusiastic in free knowledge advocacy, Big Fat Brussels Meeting, will take place on October 3-4.
  • Wikimedia Research Showcase: "Celebrating 13 Years: Wikidata’s Role in Learning and Culture" will be the featured theme for the next research showcase taking place on October 15 at 16:30 UTC.

Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Research · Web · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org

Wikifunctions now available on 123 Wiktionaries

Annual Goals Progress on Volunteer Support
See also blogs: Global Advocacy blog · Global Advocacy Newsletter · Policy blog · WikiLearn News · list of movement events

Annual Goals Progress on Effectiveness
See also: Progress on the annual plan

Board and Board committee updates
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Foundation statements

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This Month in Education: September 2025

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This Month in Education

Volume 14 • Issue 9 • September 2025

In This Issue

Moving talk page discussions

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Hello, Andy. How are you? Being your long-time admirer, I thought I'll go through your talk page, and I came across this:

If appropriate, I will move discussion from here to the relevant article's talk page, so that anyone interested can join in.

I wanted to ask if there's a guideline regarding this? I wanted to move a topic from a user's talk page to an article's talk page, so that it will be convenient to report to WP:DR if needed. I wanted to know if that's allowed since it's not my talk page but I had created that topic.. Kingsacrificer (talk) 13:42, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If it's not your talk page, you shouldn't do it (at least: not without asking first). Just put a pointer to it, from the article's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:44, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers! Kingsacrificer (talk) 14:51, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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