Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 September 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 27, 2025.
Tristiania
[edit]- Tristiania → Major depressive disorder (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete. The pre-BLAR version was apparently a misspelling of tristimania; there is a book by that name about bipolar disorder, not MDD, that was published after this article was written. Speedy deletion was denied in 2012 with the rationale "if someone searched for it, a redirect is preferable." Google assumes Tristiania is a misspelling of Tristania (band). This is most plausibly an {{R from misspelling}} for Tristania but is ultimately meaningless. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:18, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete ambiguous misspelling. Content pre-BLAR is unsourced and poor quality. ⇌ Synpath 20:17, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Bipolar personality disorder
[edit]- Bipolar personality disorder → Bipolar disorder (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete erroneous title likely to cause/further confusion. I considered refining this to Bipolar disorder#Comorbid conditions but readers would be better served by finding no article here and turning a general internet search where many articles address this confusion head on. The redirect creator's edit summary indicates that they shared this common misunderstanding. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:52, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- I put the quoted phrase
"Bipolar personality disorder"
into my Favorite Web Search Engine and got no results. I asked Mr Google and found a page full of unreliable sources like Quora and healthcare providers' business websites. I don't therefore think that readers are well served by a general internet search. I do think this should be tagged with {{R with possibilities}}. I think that pointing it specifically to Bipolar disorder#Differential diagnosis (which talks about the difference between borderline and bipolar) would be okay. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:26, 27 September 2025 (UTC)- The quoted phrase only turns up Quora and similar slop because it is not a valid clinical entity. However, without quotation marks there are many hits that describe bipolar disorder specifically or the relationship/confusion between bipolar and personality disorders. These are mostly not RS's we could cite but they provide reasonable primer and dispel the common misunderstanding. I might be able to get behind the Differential diagnosis refinement but definitely oppose tagging as {{R with possibilities}} because "bipolar personality disorder" is not a valid construct and no article should exist at this title; a redirect that anticipates and corrects this misconception might be. An R to section would be an improvement here as it does not suggest that "bipolar personality disorder" is a correct synonym. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with targeting Bipolar disorder#Differential diagnosis. Without a source I would oppose any attempt to explain why people are searching for this non-thing. Johnjbarton (talk) 16:28, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- The quoted phrase only turns up Quora and similar slop because it is not a valid clinical entity. However, without quotation marks there are many hits that describe bipolar disorder specifically or the relationship/confusion between bipolar and personality disorders. These are mostly not RS's we could cite but they provide reasonable primer and dispel the common misunderstanding. I might be able to get behind the Differential diagnosis refinement but definitely oppose tagging as {{R with possibilities}} because "bipolar personality disorder" is not a valid construct and no article should exist at this title; a redirect that anticipates and corrects this misconception might be. An R to section would be an improvement here as it does not suggest that "bipolar personality disorder" is a correct synonym. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- I find the redirect plausible despite being inappropriate (Bipolar is a mood disorder). As previous replies highlight, users might search the term based on a misconception. Judging from the poor quality of top results for this phrase on Google, I think having the redirect page listed there might help said users to become better informed. Maybe something along the lines of:
- "Bipolar personality disorder" may be a misspelling of Borderline PD or bipolar, a mood disorder."
- in the redirect, stating explicitly that the phrase they searched for is not valid. iris 5:49p, edited 6:08p 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk 09:56, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- I think another reason we might want to have this redirect (or disambiguation) page is with the fact that BPD often gets misdiagnosed as bipolar (including me).
- iris 6:05p 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk 10:05, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have thoughts on whether the #Differential diagnosis section link achieves or keeping it as-is best achieves this? --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 11:15, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. I agree that #Differential diagnosis is a more appropriate / less confusing target.
- I'm tempted to also add "[this phrase] is a misspelling" beside the link, just to make it unambiguously clear. iris 3:48p 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk 07:46, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- I’ve added {{R from incorrect name}}. It’s not reader-facing, though. I think the best we can do is point people to the article/section. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 15:20, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have thoughts on whether the #Differential diagnosis section link achieves or keeping it as-is best achieves this? --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 11:15, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with retarget to Bipolar disorder#Differential diagnosis, and with tagging it as an incorrect name (and clarifying as needed at the target page), as well as opposing tagging as "with possibilities". As I see it, this should redirect confused readers to the correct information. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:50, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- retarget to the DDX section of bipolar as I have heard this term used irl due to confusion between the terms. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 22:23, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- (nominator update): Support refining to Bipolar disorder#Differential diagnosis (the "DDx" section) as alternative to deletion. Erroneous but common terms do make for good redirects although care should be taken to not perpetuate misconceptions. What tips the scales for me here is that we have an article section that comes close to addressing the misconception head-on by at least partly addressing the actual relationship between these disorders. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 17:51, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Alternative perception
[edit]- Alternative perception → Schizophrenia#Stigma (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete as vague. Supposedly a proposed name for the disorder per the pre-BLAR article but I can find only scant reference to this online. The phrase is often used as part of a general description of schizophrenia or psychosis but not as an alternative name. Mostly, the phrase has unrelated uses. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:27, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Light cylinder
[edit]Originally created as a redirect to light cone, and retargeted to pulsar a couple of years later with this rationale. There is no mention in pulsar (although it has been explained on the talk page), nor is it mentioned in light cone. It is mentioned in Centrifugal acceleration (astrophysics), which appears to indicate that the term is used both for pulsars and active galactic nuclei. While web searches for "pulsar light cylinder", "pulsar diagram", and "light cylinder active galactic nuclei" do indeed come up with results, just searching "light cylinder" returns light fixtures. As such, I'm not sure whether to retarget or dabify. — Hydrogenation (talk) 22:22, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- "Lichtzylinder" (Light cylinder) is also mentioned in the german article https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetar, but not in the english article. This is the only article in german Wikipedia where it is mentioned. Waldmaus (talk) 11:32, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Not a notable topic. A source like Horvath, J. E. High-Energy Astrophysics uses the term once, in a figure caption. Johnjbarton (talk) 15:38, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The astrophysics usage appears to apply to a couple of related contexts but is not specific to either and is not explicitly defined on en.wiki. Even when I do a Google Scholar search for light cylinder I get unrelated physics usage, including some where it's used to mean light-weight cylinder[1][2] and at least one where I think the meaning is cylindrical light fixture although I'm not sure I understand correctly.[3] --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:11, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Young, Gifted and Broke (documentary series)
[edit]- Young, Gifted and Broke (documentary series) → Young, Gifted and Broke (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete: The redirect refers to a 1999–2001 documentary series; the target refers to a 1989 sitcom. The documentary series should be a redlink until an article is created. OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 22:16, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:22, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:06, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Skitsafrantic
[edit]- Skitsafrantic → Schizophrenia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Implausible misspelling should be deleted. Possible vandalism; history suggests it was created as a joke. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:00, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Google search reveals a non-notable individual using this spelling as a social media handle and a fanciful WWE reference but none of the Quora and Reddit posts you would expect from genuine misspelling. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:09, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:22, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Failure to recognize what is real
[edit]- Failure to recognize what is real → Schizophrenia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Inappropriate target. Could plausibly refer to delusion or denial but I would delete. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:54, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to psychosis:
unable to distinguish, in one's experience of life, between what is and is not real
. Paradoctor (talk) 23:46, 27 September 2025 (UTC)- This is also a more general feature of delusions, which are a feature of psychosis, and could reasonably be interpreted as consistent with some formulations of denial or denialism. Google mostly suggests agnosia but also delusional disorders, anosognosia, and a number of other topics. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 00:00, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Also: Derealization --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:31, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- This is also a more general feature of delusions, which are a feature of psychosis, and could reasonably be interpreted as consistent with some formulations of denial or denialism. Google mostly suggests agnosia but also delusional disorders, anosognosia, and a number of other topics. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 00:00, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Psychotic drugs
[edit]- Psychotic drugs → Psychosis#Psychoactive drugs (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Psychotic drug → Psychosis#Psychoactive drugs (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete as vague. The phrasing is ambiguous for substance-induced psychosis, psychoactive drug, psychedelic drug, antipsychotic and possibly others. It is not correct terminology for any of these so not appropriate for a dab. Antipsychotic is probably the best target if there is one. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:44, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Antipsychotic makes the most sense to me Dr vulpes (Talk) 23:01, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep or Redirect to Antipsychotic. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:14, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep,
Drugs commonly alleged to induce psychotic symptoms include [list]
at target gives exactly what I was seeking via the term. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 00:45, 28 September 2025 (UTC) - Redirect/retarget to Psychoactive drug, which is a better target than the current one. I oppose retargeting to Antipsychotic, because those are the exact opposites, despite sounding similar – that would be like redirecting "good" to "bad", or "up" to "down". (I agree with the nom that the term is an incorrect one, but since it could be a search term, at least send the reader to the closest correct match, where it might be appropriate to have a hatnote telling readers about antipsychotics.) --Tryptofish (talk) 17:50, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Umm, antipsychotics are a class of psychoactive drugs, not the "opposite". Paradoctor (talk) 21:21, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- I understand what you mean, but I was trying to indicate that "psychotic drugs", whatever that means, is the opposite of medicines used to reverse psychosis. I see your point below, that it's not a good search term, but I think it could be search term used by confused readers, and I would rather send them to the right place than to leave them confused because we decided that we should not honor a flawed search strategy. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:54, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
I was trying to indicate that "psychotic drugs", whatever that means, is the opposite of medicines used to reverse psychosis.
🤦 Paradoctor (talk) 18:08, 30 September 2025 (UTC)- Facepalm back atcha. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:58, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
I think it could be search term used by confused readers, and I would rather send them to the right place than to leave them confused because we decided that we should not honor a flawed search strategy.
The challenge is that psychotic drug(s) sounds close to multiple different targets. On what basis do we decide which real thing editors are most likely looking for with this bad search? --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:59, 30 September 2025 (UTC)- That's a very good question, and the best I can offer is to send them to a relatively broad topic, where they can start reading and then decide if they want to look somewhere else, and that's what I was aiming for by retargeting to Psychoactive drug. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:45, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- This makes sense, thanks for expanding on your thinking. I'm on the fence. On the one hand, Psychoactive drug is the umbrella category that includes all the other possible targets. On the other hand, it barely addresses the topics we think readers might be looking for, and we are still only making a best guess at what they might mean by psychotic drug(s). --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 18:03, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- That's a very good question, and the best I can offer is to send them to a relatively broad topic, where they can start reading and then decide if they want to look somewhere else, and that's what I was aiming for by retargeting to Psychoactive drug. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:45, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- I understand what you mean, but I was trying to indicate that "psychotic drugs", whatever that means, is the opposite of medicines used to reverse psychosis. I see your point below, that it's not a good search term, but I think it could be search term used by confused readers, and I would rather send them to the right place than to leave them confused because we decided that we should not honor a flawed search strategy. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:54, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Umm, antipsychotics are a class of psychoactive drugs, not the "opposite". Paradoctor (talk) 21:21, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete All results I found for this term are either partials of "anti-psychotic drug", or of "psychotic drug user(s)". This term is not in use, and not a good search term. Paradoctor (talk) 21:44, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Psychoactive drug. This seems to be the most sensible option. Article "Psychoactive drug" includes both the psychosis inducing substances as well as antipsychotics and more. Ion Soggo (talk) 20:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
I.C.E.
[edit]I'll let Wikinav tell the story on this one: United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement is the primary topic for the acronym I.C.E. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 21:21, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- WikiNav doesn't actually distinguish incoming redirects. This could just be ICE traffic instead. --Joy (talk) 08:03, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom. Someone using this search term is looking for an acronym and by far and away the primary topic among acronyms on that dab page is the US agency. I would also support retargetting ICE there as well. Obviously the target page will need a hatnote back to the bad if either or both are retargetted there. Thryduulf (talk) 15:35, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose could easily be looking for internal combustion engine where the pedantic form is "I.C.E." -- 65.93.183.109 (talk) 04:18, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- They could but the evidence is that it isn't the primary topic - the very significant majority of people using "I.C.E." want the US agency so we should take them directly there. Hatnotes exist for those who want other uses. Thryduulf (talk) 13:01, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Per WP:DIFFPUNCT. I think a discussion about ICE might be more helpful, as I.C.E. is not generally how Immigration and Customs Enforcement is spelled (it is generally ICE). I also think this is a potentially WP:RECENTISM, as the data on WikiNav is only from August and July. Furthermore, as ICE redirects to Ice (disambiguation) it is unclear how many people from I.C.E. specifically versus ICE are seeking out the article on United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement or possibly on other topics like the internal combustion engine. Casablanca 🪨(T) 16:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
google.com.tr
[edit]- Google.com.tr → Google Search#Domain names (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:17, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Censorship of Google#Turkey is relevant to this domain, although it isn't mentioned there. Thryduulf (talk) 15:41, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
IPhone 5SE
[edit]- IPhone 5SE → IPhone SE (1st generation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The phone in question has never been referred to as 5SE, only "iPhone SE" or iPhone SE (1st generation). If this redirect exists, then why don't we have redirects like iPhone 8SE to disambiguate between 2nd and 3rd gen of SE? And if this redirect should stand, why is it not called "iPhone 5SSE" if the SE 1 is based on the 5S? thetechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 19:35, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep it was a name that was used before Apple announced the actual name. See, for example, [4] [5]. Warudo (talk) 19:52, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Seems harmless and to reflect terminology one used to refer to the specific subject. And no, that doesn't necessarily mean we should create all the other ones. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:13, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per above --Lenticel (talk) 04:39, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
320x200
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- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was retarget to Display resolutions. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 03:47, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
No mention at target. Color Graphics Adapter might be an alternative. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:01, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Display resolutions was my first thought, and it is mentioned multiple times at Display resolutions#Evolution of standards however I also discovered Template:Computer display standard pipes 320×200 to Mode 13h, which is a VGA resolution. It's not immediately clear to me if there is a primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 13:34, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget or dabify I would prefer retargeting to display resolutions on the grounds that the redirect is from a resolution, not a display mode, but if Thryduulf feels it could go either way, a WP:TWODAB would not disturb me, either. Especially seeing as the required hatnote is in danger of being overlooked in this case. Paradoctor (talk) 18:00, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 19:09, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Display resolutions. Inappropriate redirect to a random band. thetechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 19:36, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Display resolutions as most plausible target --Lenticel (talk) 04:39, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).
Sky Is Not Blue
[edit]- Sky Is Not Blue → Lemon Demon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target; works by the name of "The Sky Is Not Blue" have unreferenced mentions at Joy Jones and Yousef Emadi. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:42, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 19:09, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as vague with no notable referent. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 19:49, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- or Weak retarget to Diffuse sky radiation#Color. This is the target for Sky Is Blue and several related phrases. When I Google sky is not blue I get one hit for Lemon Demon on the firs page and the majority of the hits discuss the perceived color of the sky. When I use quotes around "sky is not blue" I see more of Lemon Demon on the first couple pages but still many results discussing the subject of Diffuse sky radiation#Color and many hits for The Sky Is Not Blue by Joy Jones. As noted by the nom, Jones's book is mentioned in the article. It turns up more his than Lemon Demon. But it's only a partial title match. Admittedly, the capitalization is odd for this redirect, but so are several of the other redirects to Diffuse sky radiation#Color and this perennially interesting topic is a more appropriate target than a song that is not mentioned anywhere on en.wiki. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 03:04, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as it's the name of a song by Lemon Demon. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7csTssBIKgo If you think that it needs to be mentioned in the article, then feel free to expand the article's list of albums to include the list of all the songs on each album. Eventually, someone will probably make a discography page, and then it should point to that. Right now, this serves readers who are trying to remember who wrote that song. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:34, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
What Will Happen Will Happen
[edit]- What Will Happen Will Happen → Lemon Demon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention at target. Included in List of songs about or referencing serial killers (which is at least borderline WP:INDISCRIMINATE as an aside); also used in reference to fatalism at Free will, as well as in a translation of a motto at Ffolkes baronets (which would seem to be overly specific). 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:36, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 19:08, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Lean delete as vague. The entries that might go on a dab page all seem like a stretch but if someone thinks there's a coherent set then I have no objection. This wording is also similar to some restatements of Murphy's law, which comes up when I Google this phrase. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 19:47, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Flamingo Legs
[edit]- Flamingo Legs → Lemon Demon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention at target. Debatable if retargeting this somewhere on the Flamingo article would be helpful, but that might be an option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:44, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 19:07, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or weak retarget to Flamingo#Description. Their standing posture is a defining characteristic but I think this can safely be deleted. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 19:42, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
I Know Your Name
[edit]- I Know Your Name → Lemon Demon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention at target, but probably could be disambiguated between Laughter (Ian Dury & The Blockheads album), Live the Life, Bee and Flower, The Strange Familiar, The Sick-Leaves and Galen Crew. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:41, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 19:06, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- DABify per nom. Only include Lemon Demon if there is something to substantiate the connection; that decision can be made and revisited after the dab page is published. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 19:39, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Lip biting
[edit]- Lip biting → Body-focused repetitive behavior (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 🫦 → Body-focused repetitive behavior (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I'm incredulous that the pathological behavior described at the target is what most readers think of with "lip biting" and all but certain the emoji is never used this way. I suggest retargeting 🫦 to flirting but there may be better options. Several sources describe it usage this way, or as indicating sexual arousal.[6][7][8][9][10] Keeping lip biting as-is may be the best option but I'm nominating these together for full consideration. I am not proposing deletion. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 18:41, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- In addition to the usual list of emoji pages, 🫦 is also mentioned at Jennifer Daniel (illustrator)#Unicode and emoji work. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 20:29, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Do not keep I don't know if there is a PRIMARYTOPIC, but I'm pretty sure BFRB is not it.It should be noted that, besides the deliberate use in flirting and sex, (non-harming) lip biting is also a form of stimming. Furthermore, the term is ambiguous with "biting someone else's lips", as an erotic behavior. Paradoctor (talk) 22:02, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Per my below, change my !vote to Disambiguate lip biting and redirect 🫦 there. Unless a clear primary topic can be demonstrated, of course.- See prior emoji discussions here: 🤭, 👩💻, 🛋️, ⏫/⏬, 🫸/🫷, 🤪, 🙀, 👯♂️, 🫥, 👾, 🧑🦳, 👏, 💨, 😶🌫, 🤗, 😬, 🏚️,☄️, 💁♂️/💁/💁♀️, 🫗, 🔞, 🏴, 🔥, 📗, , ⛓️💥, 🥘, 🥙, 😆, 💇♂️/💇, & . Enix150 (talk) 01:23, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- TLDR. What's the relevance to this discussion? Paradoctor (talk) 01:48, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure why the contribution is unsigned but I'll chime in. While I don't think we need to review every prior emoji discussion each time a new one comes up, the history provides relevant precedent for how we have handled these. WP:REMOJI gives a more succinct summary. Emoji redirects are rarely deleted. When the meaning is obvious we point to the subject that corresponds with its meaning (🦁 → Lion). A few like Eggplant emoji (🍆) have their own article and a few are a soft redirect to Wiktionary where they are defined in detail. Others point to Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs or List of emoji or a similar list/article where they are included. I still favor Flirting for 🫦 but Jennifer Daniel (illustrator)#Unicode and emoji work would be a reasonable target since it provides some interesting background on this emoji, or one of the aforementioned pages that lists numerous emojis. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 03:22, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Unicode defines the symbol as BITING LIP,[1] so the emoji goes wherever lip biting goes. The problem is that "lip biting" has several very different meanings, and, prima facie, no primary topic. Writing this, I realize that the issue here is how to disambiguate. Assuming nobody finds actual data supporting a clear primary, lip biting should be a dab page. Paradoctor (talk) 03:39, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I oppose pointing 🫦 and Lip biting to the same target on the basis of the Unicode definition since the emoji has a fairly well-documented meaning or set of related meanings that does not include BFRB, Dermatophagia, or Stimming. In addition to Flirting, Sexting is another plausible target for 🫦. I would not create a 🫦 dab page so if I a single target can't be agreed upon then I would point it to one of the pages where it is listed. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 15:18, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Uhhh... [citation needed]? Paradoctor (talk) 15:41, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- What more do you need??? I provided the link to WP:REMOJI describing how these are typically handled. REMOJI includes a link to the 2023 RFC at WP:😃↪️📊2️⃣, which summarizes the consensus for emoji redirects as:
discrete target if unambiguous, else page that serves to disambiguate, else list of symbols
. (I'm not aware of an example where a dab page lives with the emoji symbol as the title, but I am aware of examples like 🥙, which redirects to a set index article that serves a dab-like function.) @Enix150 (I think) provided links to multiple past emoji RfDs, which you dismissed as tl;dr. I provided five links in the nomination that describe the 🫦's use in flirtatious messages, often to indicate sexual arousal or anticipated sexual activity. This is consistent with the descriptions at Emojipedia and Urban Dictionary. Admittedly, these aren't the highest quality sources but the standard for an appropriate redirect is not the same as what we require for an actual article title. We frequently use slang, nicknames, and informal terminology to redirect to the appropriately named article when there is sufficient evidence of unambiguous usage or that the redirect is a reasonable synonym for or subtopic of the target. The official Unicode name is a consideration in these discussions but when actual usage differs from the official name, common usage prevails or we point to a list of emojis or a page where the specific emoji is described. What citation do you have to support 🫦 being predominantly used to mean any of the subjects have been suggested for the phrases "biting lip" or "lip biting"? Creating a Lip biting dab page and pointing 🫦 there makes sense only if there is evidence to support a coherent set of topics to which "lip biting" refers and evidence that 🫦 is frequently used to refer to all or most of these same entries. Otherwise, it's appropriate for these to have different targets. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 17:01, 3 October 2025 (UTC)- If that is your takeaway from the "sources" mentioned, then there is really nothing to say. Paradoctor (talk) 17:13, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- What more do you need??? I provided the link to WP:REMOJI describing how these are typically handled. REMOJI includes a link to the 2023 RFC at WP:😃↪️📊2️⃣, which summarizes the consensus for emoji redirects as:
- Uhhh... [citation needed]? Paradoctor (talk) 15:41, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I oppose pointing 🫦 and Lip biting to the same target on the basis of the Unicode definition since the emoji has a fairly well-documented meaning or set of related meanings that does not include BFRB, Dermatophagia, or Stimming. In addition to Flirting, Sexting is another plausible target for 🫦. I would not create a 🫦 dab page so if I a single target can't be agreed upon then I would point it to one of the pages where it is listed. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 15:18, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Unicode defines the symbol as BITING LIP,[1] so the emoji goes wherever lip biting goes. The problem is that "lip biting" has several very different meanings, and, prima facie, no primary topic. Writing this, I realize that the issue here is how to disambiguate. Assuming nobody finds actual data supporting a clear primary, lip biting should be a dab page. Paradoctor (talk) 03:39, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure why the contribution is unsigned but I'll chime in. While I don't think we need to review every prior emoji discussion each time a new one comes up, the history provides relevant precedent for how we have handled these. WP:REMOJI gives a more succinct summary. Emoji redirects are rarely deleted. When the meaning is obvious we point to the subject that corresponds with its meaning (🦁 → Lion). A few like Eggplant emoji (🍆) have their own article and a few are a soft redirect to Wiktionary where they are defined in detail. Others point to Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs or List of emoji or a similar list/article where they are included. I still favor Flirting for 🫦 but Jennifer Daniel (illustrator)#Unicode and emoji work would be a reasonable target since it provides some interesting background on this emoji, or one of the aforementioned pages that lists numerous emojis. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 03:22, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- TLDR. What's the relevance to this discussion? Paradoctor (talk) 01:48, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- See prior emoji discussions here: 🤭, 👩💻, 🛋️, ⏫/⏬, 🫸/🫷, 🤪, 🙀, 👯♂️, 🫥, 👾, 🧑🦳, 👏, 💨, 😶🌫, 🤗, 😬, 🏚️,☄️, 💁♂️/💁/💁♀️, 🫗, 🔞, 🏴, 🔥, 📗, , ⛓️💥, 🥘, 🥙, 😆, 💇♂️/💇, & . Enix150 (talk) 01:23, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget 🫦 to Flirting per nom. Do not delete. And retarget Lip biting to Dermatophagia where lip biting is briefly mentioned. Enix150 (talk) 15:47, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Eh, Dermatophagia is worse than BFRB. Lip biting is also mentioned there (at the current target). Google, Google Scholar, and DuckDuckGo all turn up hits for BFRB on searches for lip biting so our current target is at least consistent with search engines. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 14:49, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- I don't feel that strongly either way about it, keeping Lip biting as a redirect to BFRB is fine by me. I honestly thought an article would've been written by now on Lip biting as a topic. Enix150 (talk) 01:26, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Eh, Dermatophagia is worse than BFRB. Lip biting is also mentioned there (at the current target). Google, Google Scholar, and DuckDuckGo all turn up hits for BFRB on searches for lip biting so our current target is at least consistent with search engines. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 14:49, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
Shout shout let it all out
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- The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 03:48, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Shout shout let it all out → Shout (Tears for Fears song) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Lyric not mentioned in target. Rusalkii (talk) 06:25, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete unlikely search term, especially considering this is a several line lyric. Lyrical phrases do not need redirecting to the song. Lavalizard101 (talk) 10:18, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. An unambiguous {{R from lyric}}. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:45, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Weak keep. I'm conflicted about some of these R's from lyric but this is a well known refrain from the song that readers are likely to recall, while not remembering the name of the song even though it's right there in the lyric. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:26, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The rule at WP:RFD#DELETE #8 is to consider deletion if it's not mentioned at the target and it's "a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name". Redirects should not be deleted if the connection to the subject is obvious to most people, or if the redirect is correct but not appropriate for inclusion in the article, such as {{R from brand name}}. ...or {{R from lyric}}, in this case. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:37, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: it's a key lyric of the song and would be helpful for people who don't know the artist. --Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:34, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Shhhnotsoloud. Enix150 (talk) 23:22, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
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If the world was ending, I'd wanna be next to you
[edit]- If the world was ending, I'd wanna be next to you → Die with a Smile (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Lyric that isn't mentioned at target article. Suonii180 (talk) 06:47, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Still it exists. Redirects are cheap, people seem to forget this quite frequently. Keep. 2804:388:4108:F363:1:0:64BF:EBEC (talk) 21:40, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete unlikely search term. Lyrical phrases do not need redirecting to the song. Lavalizard101 (talk) 10:17, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Unambiguous {{R from lyric}}. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:48, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 17:28, 27 September 2025 (UTC) - Keep per Shhhnotsoloud. thetechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 19:38, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as a seemingly random lyric from the song and an unlikely search term. Wikipedia is not a lyrics database. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:1B56:14B9:F321:AFC6 (talk) 22:56, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Space Train
[edit]- Space Train → Neil Cicierega (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target. A different usage of the term occurs at London Underground 2009 Stock, and Fabbri Group includes a roller coaster by this name. 1234qwer1234qwer4 10:26, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Disambig in addition to the two uses noted in the nomination, there is also List of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon games and sketches#Space Train (see also Race Through New York Starring Jimmy Fallon#Ride), an episode of Fireman Sam (see List of Fireman Sam episodes#Series 10 (2016)), a concept mentioned at List of Japanese inventions and discoveries#1930s, a video game mentioned at List of arcade video games: S, a musical group that Ben Besiakov was previously a member of, a ride at Fun Spot Amusement Park & Zoo and a concept at Charles Bombardier#The Solar Express. I'm not sure absolutely all of those meet dabmention standards, but at least some of them do. Thryduulf (talk) 10:51, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Disambiguate. Nominator's rationale is not a good reason for deletion but for disambiguation. I think I've also seen a classic book featuring a train in space; I couldn't find it, but in the search process I found Night on the Galactic Railroad, which I've not heard of before, but it's still a space train. Nyttend (talk) 19:47, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate. I would have guessed that this would refer to Galaxy Express 999 or it's adaptations but there really are many space trains: Galactic Whirlwind Sasuraiger (a mecha transforming into train) and Starcross (novel). MKFI (talk) 10:34, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Germanic cuisine
[edit]- Germanic cuisine → Germanic peoples#Culture (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete there is no such thing, Just as there is no Romance cuisine, no Slavic cuisine, no Indo-European cuisine. --Altenmann >talk 15:21, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The existence of this redirect is vaguely ridiculous, particularly as it redirects to a section that doesn’t discuss cuisine.—-Ermenrich (talk) 15:40, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as per the two previous comments.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:37, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:07, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Ermenrich. I might add that I've just nominated Category:Slavic cuisine for deletion as well, which was originally created by nom, and nom has agreed to its deletion. NLeeuw (talk) 08:14, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Identity cards in the United Kingdom
[edit]- Identity cards in the United Kingdom → Identity Cards Act 2006 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Also Uk national identity card, UK national identity card, United Kingdom ID card, British ID card, UK Identity card, UK ID card, National identity cards in the United Kingdom, UK ID card scheme, British national identity card, British National Identity Card, National identity cards in the UK, National identity card (United Kingdom), ID cards in the United Kingdom, British identity card, United Kingdom identity card, UK identity card
This seems to be an overspecific redirect. There are multiple aspects to ID cards in the UK, including the ID cards issued during WWII, the general debate about whether we should have an ID card scheme and how it should function and the new digital ID scheme that is now being talked about. — Smjg (talk) 13:49, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, this is an article about the history of ID cards in the UK, not just a specific instance of that. It would be reasonable to pull out an article about the Identity Cards Act 2006, its background and context, but that's not what this article is. Revert the move and restore the original title. — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 13:55, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- There is nothing to revert to. The 2006 Act article is all there ever was. Identity cards in the United Kingdom and National identity card (United Kingdom) were both created as redirects to Identity Cards Act 2006. So what is really needed is a new broad concept article (at Identity cards in the United Kingdom?) which describes the 2006 Act in brief and adds material about the latest Cunning Plan™. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:49, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- I've just had a look at the history. The article was moved from National identity card (United Kingdom) to its current title on 4 November 2010. The edit summary said "refocusing article on 2006 act, rather than the cards in general" but, looking further back, I see that it was always primarily about the 2006 act and the stuff that led to it. On this basis, I think the best plan is indeed to start a broad concept article. This would cover all of the aspects I've mentioned. The Historical and international comparisons section can be used as a starting point for the content about the wartime scheme. And we should see how much of the content of the Objections to the scheme section is relevant to ID cards generally, or aspects common to multiple ID card schemes, actual or proposed. — Smjg (talk) 16:28, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Template:Ctop
[edit]- Template:Ctop → Template:Collapse top (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Now that we have contentious topics (CTOPs) and the TM:Contentious topics family of templates, I think we should replace all uses of this redirect. Then, we should either delete this redirect or retarget it to TM:Contentious topics. Toadspike [Talk] 12:42, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- There are 1085 transclusions of this shortcut. [11] Toadspike [Talk] 12:44, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, there are over 1000 uses of this template shortcut as mentioned above, and this would just break old revisions of pages for no good reason. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:1B56:14B9:F321:AFC6 (talk) 22:59, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy keep - theres over 1000 yses of it and its well known in many editors brains. for Contenious topic, the short handle is “ct” like WP:CT/GG so there is not a real risk here as its a solution in search of a problem. This Rfd has caused the warning that theres an RfD on this on hundreds of pages right now. Raladic (talk) 07:39, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- If wikiterminology really has evolved such that "CTOP" commonly refers to "contentious topics", I don't have strong feelings about replacing this shortcut with something like "coltop", but I'm not sure that shift is sufficiently demonstrated. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 17:44, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:AINTBROKE. This is part of a series of collapse/hat/archive shortcut templates which all follow this format, and all have companion template redirects such as {{cbot}}. For the purpose proposed by the nominator, {{ctops}} is available and would not require breaking thousands of discussions. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:29, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Not broken, there's already a considerable amount in use, and contentious topics have WT:CT. I was brought to this discussion because I was going to use {{ctop}} to keep a comment tidy. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 18:42, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per above. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:31, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Nov 5 2024
[edit]- Nov 5 2024 → 2024 United States presidential election (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not sure US election are important enough to have a date. Even yes, this should retarget to 2024 United States elections A1Cafel (talk) 10:26, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, this is just one of many events that have happened on this date. ArthananWarcraft (talk) 10:48, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per ArthananWarcraft; we are a global encyclopædia, not a collection of US events. — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 13:56, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:07, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Portal:Current events/2024 November 5 per precedent as the best target. J947 ‡ edits 23:32, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Belarus national cricket team
[edit]- Belarus national cricket team → Culture of Belarus#Sport (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bolivia national cricket team → Culture of Bolivia#Sports (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bosnia and Herzegovina national cricket team → Culture of Bosnia and Herzegovina#Sports (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Chad national cricket team → Sports in Chad (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Djibouti national cricket team → Culture of Djibouti#Sport (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- DR Congo national cricket team → Democratic Republic of the Congo#Sports (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- El Salvador national cricket team → Culture of El Salvador#Sports (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Eritrea national cricket team → Sport in Eritrea (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ethiopia national cricket team → Ethiopia#Sport (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Faroe Islands national cricket team → Faroe Islands#Sports (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Guatemala national cricket team → Guatemala#Sports (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Honduras national cricket team → Sport in Honduras (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jordan national cricket team → Sport in Jordan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kazakhstan national cricket team → Sport in Kazakhstan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kosovo national cricket team → Sport in Kosovo (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Cricket isn't mentioned in any of the target pages. Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 September 25#Algeria national cricket team is a similar previous RFD which I didn't want to overload.-MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:03, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom. — Hydrogenation (talk) 20:58, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:08, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Note articles about the Belarus and Ethiopian national cricket teams (and others not nominated here) were deleted at AfD in 2014 - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belarus national cricket team. Thryduulf (talk) 15:49, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete all. It's worth noting that the El Salvador team implicitly exists, given mentions at both Mexico national cricket team and Costa Rica national cricket team but it would be confusing for someone searching for information about the El Salvador team to arrive at either one of those articles (and see also WP:XY) even if there were in-depth coverage of them. We have no coverage of cricket in any of the other countries here, let alone national teams specifically. Thryduulf (talk) 16:01, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Bahrain's
[edit]Unneeded redirect per similar nominations and deletions. No incoming links. ArthananWarcraft (talk) 09:00, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 04:05, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete’s --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 05:09, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete's the way to go. Steel1943 (talk) 03:00, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
Fiji's
[edit]Unneeded redirect per similar nominations and deletions. No incoming links. ArthananWarcraft (talk) 08:47, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete's per nom. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:19, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 04:05, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete's my call. Steel1943 (talk) 03:01, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
KEG
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Keg (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 03:51, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
weak nom, but would keg (disambiguation) be a better target? consarn (grave) (obituary) 20:37, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Weak retarget to Order of the Eagle of Georgia#Grades of the Order as the only acronym entry per Keg (disambiguation). Steel1943 (talk) 20:57, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Weak retarget Keg (disambiguation). I'm probably an outlier but the first thing I thought of was KEGG, given the all-caps. I've added that to Keg (disambiguation) under 'See also'. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:19, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Which target?
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- Retarget to the long name I don't want to type out per Steel. Only acronym at the page. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:27, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the proposed target.
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- Retarget to Keg (disambiguation). WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:38, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Keg (disambiguation). The Keg is frequently capitalized. Thepharoah17 (talk) 08:17, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- retarget to the disambiguuation page -- 65.93.183.109 (talk) 04:20, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
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The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited
[edit]- The Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Ltd → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hongkong & Shanghai Banking Corporation → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hongkong and shanghai banking corporation → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hong kong and shanghai banking corporation → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hong kong and shanghai banking corporation limited → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hongkong Shanghai Banking Corporation → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited → HSBC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to HSBC (Hong Kong). The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited is a bank incorporated and headquartered in Hong Kong. The current target, HSBC, is about HSBC Holdings plc, a British financial services group whose principal subsidiaries include HSBC UK (legally HSBC UK Bank plc) and HSBC (Hong Kong) (legally The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited). feminist🩸 (talk) 06:23, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Walküre 699-035
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:03, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Walküre 699-035 → Karlsbad-style coffee maker#Form 699 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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- Walküre 799/020 → Karlsbad-style coffee maker#Form 799 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Walküre 599/028 → Karlsbad-style coffee maker#Form 599 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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- Walküre 699/035 → Karlsbad-style coffee maker#Form 699 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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- Walküre 899/050 → Karlsbad-style coffee maker#Form 899 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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Subforms removed by me from the article at Special:Diff/1312217479 as being an indiscriminate list. 1234qwer1234qwer4 11:11, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
- First you blank the content, and then minutes later you propose deleting the redirects? What do you think should happen to a reader who is searching for these terms?
- A complete list of a company's products isn't really WP:INDISCRIMINATE. I don't know enough about the subject matter to know whether it's WP:DUE, however. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:02, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 05:34, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete useless redirects. FWIW, I agree with the nom's removal of the content from the target article. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:31, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. No appetite, discussions continue on talk page. (non-admin closure) CNC (talk) 16:50, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Russian invasion of Ukraine → Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine per previous consensus (edited) of PTOPIC. CNC (talk) 01:06, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – I think the proposer should have explained the background of this request. Recently, the article that was previously titled Russian invasion of Ukraine was moved to Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present). A new article for the intial invasion specifically was created at 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. The problem we have here is that there are thousands of links across the encyclopaedia to Russian invasion of Ukraine that need to be parsed in line with the new article scheme. Some may well need to go to the new invasion article, but the vast majority are likely intended for Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present). I do not think the target of this title should be changed until the links are sorted, because the end result will be directing the reader to an inferior article at 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine (see WP:ASTONISH), when what they really want is the existing article, Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present). RGloucester — ☎ 01:19, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Related discussions: Move of 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and Requested move 5 August 2025. CNC (talk) 01:27, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy close and move 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to Russian invasion of Ukraine per prior consensus from the 2023 RM, which the most recent RM did not address, challenge, alter, or override. See my comments at Talk:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine#Move of 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. InfiniteNexus (talk) 07:14, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- I am sorry, but given your comments here and elsewhere, I will need to oppose this proposal. I cannot agree that the previous RM result applies to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine article, which is brand new. That RM dealt with an article much broader in scope than the new 2022 invasion article. The article now located at Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present) may well have been the primary topic, and there was indeed consensus for this. There has been no established consensus, however, that this new article, which is limited in scope to the initial 2022 invasion alone, is in fact the primary topic of 'Russian invasion of Ukraine'. In fact, I think that there is a valid argument for redirecting Russian invasion of Ukraine to Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present), given that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is still ongoing, and that people still commonly refer to what is going on as the 'Russian invasion of Ukraine' (take a look at your newspaper of choice). The status quo (where Russian invasion of Ukraine redirects to the article that formerly held that title, now titled Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present)) should remain. RGloucester — ☎ 07:39, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Either new disambiguation page or redirect to List of invasions and occupations of Ukraine for now.Ambiguous title and it is not clear whether the average reader will be looking for the article about the whole war or the initial invasion, so for now a disambiguation page is safest until that becomes clear. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 15:33, 27 September 2025 (UTC)- There was consensus in 2023 that the invasion that began in 2022 is the primary topic of "Russian invasion of Ukraine", and there is new consensus from the most recent RM that the events post-2022 are not an "invasion" but a "war". Therefore, Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present) should not be considered a possible target for Russian invasion of Ukraine (perhaps a hatnote is reasonable, but certainly not a redirect or DAB page). InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:21, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Chessrat are you willing to strike your vote so I can withdraw this? Per the talk page there is more of an appetite for an RM to resolve things rather than this RfD. I'm only asking you as you're the only (other) editor supporting re-targeting at present. But if you feel strongly about your !vote and this RfD then it should remain open I guess. CNC (talk) 16:29, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- :@CNC Done- happy for it to be resolved via RM rather than RfD. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 16:47, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
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