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Happy editing! --Edcolins (talk) 18:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Edcolins. Tenshi! (Talk page) 12:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome! Note that you may want to change the link that is within brackets in your signature from "Talk:TenshiSWR" to "User talk:TenshiSWR". Perhaps this is the link you intended to include. Edcolins (talk) 14:19, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't notice that, thanks again. Tenshi! (Talk page) 14:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is a sockpuppet of Piermark. I would advise reporting to AIV or simply leaving him be. See also Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Piermark JayCubby 22:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:JayCubby, I wasn't aware of that at the time, and assumed good faith anyway. I'll remember this for the future, thanks. Tenshi! (Talk page) 22:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Piermark isn't the nastiest of the LTAs (in that he mostly posts weird screeds and is less likely than some to dox). Cheers. JayCubby 22:51, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your changes; the links I added are appropriate and link to the page for each chapter delineated within the wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HatzalahWiki (talkcontribs) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@HatzalahWiki: See WP:SPAM#External link spamming and MOS:LINKS. Links should not be in the article body. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:03, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I understand - in this case, the external links are neither spam nor promotional. At some point, I can add them to a reference block, or if you're up for the challenge, please feel free to tackle before me! HatzalahWiki (talk) 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kindly do not revert. I made many (many) more changes beyond the links. When you revert, you're undoing all of them. I will be happy to address the links as noted below or, f you have bandwidth, please feel free, however please do not revert again. Thank you! HatzalahWiki (talk) 19:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Links addressed; thank you. HatzalahWiki (talk) 19:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Declined speedy deletion: Draft:Jenny Browne

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Hi there, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! I wanted to let you know I have declined your G12 speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Jenny Browne because the copyrighted information can be pruned from the article. Please let me know if you have any follow-up questions, comments, and/or concerns regarding this matter. Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:37, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pilot (Modern Family) changes

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Hi Tenshi,

I am responding to your message about the change I made to the article Pilot (Modern Family). The changes I made to were to accurately reflect the existing source. The sentence as it was previously written misinterpreted the source article, Nelson didn't turn down the role because he was having money problems, but because he felt he was not being offered enough money. In short, I was not adding any newly sourced information, but more accurately reflecting what was in the existing source.

Thanks. 2001:BB6:2476:9B58:498:B882:631B:393A (talk) 19:40, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 2001:BB6:2476:9B58:498:B882:631B:393A, I see it in the source now, so I've self-reverted for you. Hope you have a good day! — Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:47, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, and the same to you! 2001:BB6:2476:9B58:498:B882:631B:393A (talk) 19:50, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Elli (talk | contribs) 17:17, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question

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Hi there, at Nicola Perugini I was also thinking of requesting revision deletion, which is alright as you did it, but I didn’t know how to find the revision number. Please could you advise on that. Thanks, ScrabbleTiles (talk) 14:46, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I normally get it from the URL when you compare it between previous versions, for example the specific revision I requested revdel for would be Special:Diff/1280610580 (the numbers being what identifies the revision). — Tenshi! (Talk page) 14:52, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help. ScrabbleTiles (talk) 14:54, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to also see Enterprisey's revdel script which is more easier than putting the revdel template on the article yourself. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 14:55, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I have done that. ScrabbleTiles (talk) 15:07, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Want to talk with you

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Hello, i personally think you think i did something wrong, so do you know how to insert a table? Σ36 (talk) 13:17, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The table button in the normal editor can do this, for example:
Caption text
Header text Header text Header text
Example Example Example
Example Example Example
Example Example Example

Tenshi! (Talk page) 13:20, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your many positive contributions to Wikipedia!

GoldRomean (talk) 18:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks,GoldRomean. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:06, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help

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Hi Tenshi

Thanks for the help, I was in the midst of editing with my phone when you came in with revisions to the "secret of secrets" page.

The text in question is from the authors webpage as a part of their ad campaign, I don't believe it falls under the copy right, but if you are certain of this, then the article shall remain without the plot for the time being 😁 Kane 1371 (talk) 17:52, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The edit you claim to be is copyright or plagiarism is false. I used the enough of the content to keep the story correct. I changed enough to keep it from being copyright or plagiarism. I studied both and have a degree in copyright law. You may be trying to protect the Hawaii sports team, that is great, however I at least too the effort to add content to the page where you did very little. It looks as if you are new to this, I have been at this since around 2010. MDSanker 19:26, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that the entirety of your edit was a copyright violation, however it was in part, hence the infringing material was removed. If you think otherwise, you could ask Rsjaffe, to undo their revdel so that you can restore the removed content. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:42, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When you use “however” to introduce a new sentence, it still needs to be followed by a comma, just like any other introductory phrase. It's incorrect to miss out the comma. MDSanker 20:20, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You did exactly the same thing in your first reply. 2802:8012:E6:7300:8000:59C3:F4AB:E021 (talk) 10:55, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also I am sure you believe you are correct, however, I don't think it is worth the effort of doing anything else. To me this is the end of the issue. Thank you for your edits. MDSanker 20:22, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Tenshi Hinanawi. After reviewing your request, I have enabled rollback on your account. Please keep the following things in mind while using rollback:

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Tenshi Hinanawi and thank you for your interest in copyright cleanup. Note that webpages of the US Government are in the public donain, and it's okay to copy their content as long as proper attribution is given. JPL is now part of NASA, so the webpage https://climatesciences.jpl.nasa.gov/events/20190423/ is in the public domain. I have restored the content and provided the required attribution.--— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:21, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Diannaa, could you point me to where US government works are in the public domain? It's still unclear to me after looking at JPL's about us/privacy policy/terms of use pages. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 13:27, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good question. Please see Wikipedia:Public domain#United States government works, which gives detailed information on US Govt websites and how to recognize them. JPL was originally an independent organization but is now owned by NASA, and is therefore a US Government agency. A lot of US Government websites have clearer ownership statements, such as https://www.army.mil/, which has a banner at the top statiing "An official website of the US Government" but many do not, so research is required in some instances to ensure they are not independent contractors whose content would be subject to copyright. --— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:38, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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You removed two lines in the topic October 20, which both were correct so I want to ask why you would remove them 195.175.38.54 (talk) 19:35, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I presume you mean this edit. As stated in the edit summary, WP:DOYCITE applies. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My bad, forensic science day is September 20 lol but I looked up the singer and it seems that her birthday is 20 october, I'll just have to add a source 195.175.38.54 (talk) 21:07, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey @Tenshi Hinanawi

You declined https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:B%C3%BCrokratiemonster but I am not following the argumentation here. Happy to fix anything, but there is no specific reason given, can you please elaborate what is wrong?

THanks in advance

C Climate+Tech AI Think-tank (talk) 22:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The reason given is that the draft was produced from an LLM. There are obvious tells, such as all the references either leading to the website's home page or 404'ing. This means that the information cannot be verified from sources and establish notability. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 22:16, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Tenshi Hinanawi, the links are indeed invalid, gonna fix that. Climate+Tech AI Think-tank (talk) 18:27, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Properly deflated

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Hi Tenshi. I am writing an article on Carl Marsh after interviewing him for two articles and being surprised to see there was no Wikipedia page for him. Everything was going fine until today when I added the below information drawn from one of my articles and was surprised by an error message that it was not "properly deflated." I cut this from the page and made another minor edit and it saved without error. What is improper deflation and how do I fix it? Thanks, Chris


Marsh gave a detailed explanation of his orchestral motives and concepts to The Common Reader:

“Near Wild Heaven” — Marsh said his deconstruction of this song “is quite literal, using the exact sequence of melody, rhythm and tempo as in the original song.” The R.E.M. song has a rare lead vocal by Mills. Marsh said, “After a brief brass fanfare based on the original background voices of the breakdown section”— background vocals by frontman Michael Stipe and drummer Bill Berry, not by the usual harmony vocalist Mills—“the sections of the reconstruction exactly echo the original song’s construction, with only a middle-section departure which features the African djembe.” [21]

“Cuyahoga” — Marsh based his music on Stipe’s lyrics, which counterpoint Native life with the violence and pollution of settler culture, calling for a valiant renewal of healthier values. Marsh’s piece opens with a pastoral passage evocative of pre-contact Native life, with the double basses playing the first five notes from Mills’ bass line. “Slowly, the other string sections join, from lowest to highest pitches,” Marsh said. “Meanwhile, muted solo brass play fragments of melodies from the song (echoes of European invaders murmur on the horizon). An orchestra-wide climax ensues. Then, muted French horns telegraph trouble in the distance.” The tension of contact becomes “more and more intense,” Marsh said, “before the orchestra erupts into the battle scene. Then the opening bass line reappears solemnly in double basses and tympani.” Marsh quotes from the invaders’ national anthem in a line for solo woodwinds “that descends into dissonance,” he said. “After spooky violin harmonics (meant to suggest cogitation), more positive rebuilding winds itself out and finally climaxes with the entire orchestra playing the song’s main chorus theme.” [22]

“Pilgrimage” — “Pilgrimage,” Marsh said, is one of those murky early R.E.M. songs where “one can get the feeling of being suspended between stream of consciousness and deep metaphor, without any roadmap to connect the dots.” He mentioned one of the song’s more puzzling images: “‘a two headed cow’???” With the lyrics offering enigma rather than direction, Marsh created a soundscape of an expedition into exotic worlds. “I didn’t have any specific destinations in mind, just a feeling of moving through strangely wonderful exotic settings,” Marsh said. “After a brief, enigmatic intro where muted horns echo the original R.E.M. voices over tremolo strings, a rather aggressive rhythm begins. A solo violin, cello and vibes play the original song’s full verse melody, the score instruction being ‘gypsy-esque.’ When the chorus follows, muted trumpets broadcast the melody. During the next verse section, the entire string section plays a densely harmonized verse melody.” After a brief oboe solo, Marsh lifts a pounding bass drum and repeating bass line from the R.E.M. song. “As the tension increases, the verse melody reappears, this time a colorful mélange of woodwinds and xylophone, with strings and horns offering accompanying splashes of color,” Marsh wrote. “Suddenly, the entire orchestra plays the break rhythm of the original song for eight measures. Then the music crescendos further into a no-holds-barred final dance. Is this some exotic boisterous dance ritual that the expeditioner has stumbled upon? After gasping one small breath in the flutes and oboes, the piece concludes with the bass instruments pounding out a final triplet motif.” [I went back and added this citation and it still did not save]

“Everybody Hurts" — “This has a general feeling of the bittersweet struggle of the lyrics and the ever-present existential question of why the necessity of life with pain,” Marsh said. “At the beginning and at the very end, the entire string section plays my enigma-of-life chord, a sonorous stack of three simultaneous chords. Throughout my career, I have employed this chord in other orchestrations that explored similar settings.” [23]

“Try Not to Breathe” — Marsh reached back for his first classical instrument, the bassoon, for the first solo in this orchestration. “This reconstruction uses the original 6/8 rhythm of the original rhythm from start to finish, starting out very light with pizzicato strings and solo bassoon, and slowly adding instruments of the orchestra as the rhythm very slowly intensifies,” Marsh said. “I imagined this rhythm to be a ticking clock that was representing the eventual ending of a long life (‘I have seen things that you’ll never see’). Strings take the melody on the first chorus, woodwinds on the second verse, and then a modulation ensues, releasing the full rhythmic and melodic capabilities of the orchestra until the rhythm inevitably goes out with a bang.” [I went back and added this citation and it still did not save] Chriskingstl (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chriskingstl, I'm not sure what you mean by "properly deflated" but it might be possible that you've hit one of the links in the spam blacklist which may be why you were unable to save your edit. You might want to try individually adding the links and see if it only happens when adding a specific link to a source. Also, you may want to consider using level 1 headings (headings that are wrapped in ==) in Draft:Carl Marsh. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:02, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. "Properly deflated" is the error message Wikipedia sent me - I have no idea what it means. I do add all links individually. I will try to figure out what you mean by "level I headings." Chriskingstl (talk) 21:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
By level 1 headings I mean the section headings, such as the one for this section titled "Properly deflated". — Tenshi! (Talk page) 21:24, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Tenshi, nice to meet you! You placed a copypaste tag at the plot section of the above article. This is just a note to let you know I checked it over and found no plagiarism there. But thank you for caring about copyrights and keep up the good work! Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 06:56, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking, wasn't entirely sure of its status when I checked it. Tenshi! (Talk page) 12:25, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong Bot

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Hello,

I edited https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Lewis_%26_Partners&action=history and your bot keeps calling it out as copyright issues.

There are no copyright issues. Please could you implement my changes and fix your bot.

Thanks Urehti (talk) 08:56, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1. I am not a bot, I reverted your edits myself from my own account (not the bot account that I do operate). I ask that you don't make similar aspersions to that effect again, otherwise I will invite you to leave my talk page.
2. The material which you added is copyrighted from here. See this tool's output for comparison between the material you added.
Please do not readd the copyrighted material again. Contesting the copyright status is not a valid three-revert rule exemption and should be discussed. I am also going to add a template to your user talk page to alert you of this. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 10:49, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Judenstaat

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So in what way was I not "cautious"? I mentioned a very clear linguistic error and nothing else 2A00:FBC:ED47:FF38:B477:DCFF:FE6F:D2A2 (talk) 20:39, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:ARBECR: Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive. This means you are not permitted to discuss the topic, as the notice on the top of the talk page says. You can however make edit requests. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 20:41, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning. I just saw you declined my draft based on my references and I don't get your reasoning. The reasons you listed are:
1. "in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)"
2. "reliable"
3. "secondary"
4. "independent of the subject"
and it makes me think that you don't usually read about the subject in question.
First, Global Data Lab only displays its results and not the exact sources for their rankings. Second, the sources are reliable: Global Data Lab is the only source for all subregional "international HDI" rankings. That said there's no secondary source available for this subject. And finally, what do you mean by "independent of the subject"? Global Data Lab is not a Chilean organization.
All said, it is worth knowing that currently there are dozens of other articles on the same subject but for different countries that, according to your judgement, should be taken down. I invite you to search "List of [country]'s regions by Human Development Index" and you will find the same flaws.
Note: By "international HDI" I mean the one that is computed with the same methods the UN uses.
Aztronomo (talk) 21:01, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing in the draft shows that the draft is notable, only that the data is sourced. See WP:NLIST. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 21:05, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 2025 AfC backlog drive award

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This is awarded to Tenshi Hinanawi for accumulating more than 15 points during the June 2025 AfC backlog drive. Your dedication and sustained efforts in reducing the backlog and contributions to Wikipedia's content review process are sincerely appreciated. Thank you for your participation! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:32, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Being clear

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Please don't respond to new editors at the Teahouse if your only contributions here are to mock them for not being able to write an article properly. Just knock it off already, I dont know what you are talking about and this is not new for me to contribute here at Teahouse. I usually, and never mock nobody, and I feel no reason to do it. If you ever again attempted to make a claim without understanding situation, you might like to visit noticeboard. Sys64 message this user 01:06, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do tell, in what universe is it okay to say to someone that you have demonstrated an inability to write an article even about yourself, which is, as guessed, filled with promotion, bias and unnecessary flattery proses. That is almost certainly a violation of WP:AGF, and not appropriate to say to a new editor. Sure, it's an unsourced autobiography and promotional, but telling them in that manner is not acceptable. Tenshi! (Talk page) 01:16, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
First of all he is not a "new" editor, you can check his userpage. Second, in every universe what I just said is acceptable and necessary without any excessive or unjustified sentences. I would like to tell you to spend more time in Teahouse and to understand when and when not some responses are necessary, because we do not reply everytime from thin air. Thank you.
P.S. You seems to have came to logic, I saw your CSD tag in his page, good. Sys64 message this user 02:55, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
you have demonstrated an inability to write an article even about yourself, which is, as guessed, filled with promotion, bias and unnecessary flattery proses., I am quite normal about it. Sys64 message this user 02:56, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
1. They have 5 edits in total over 5 months, they are not yet autoconfirmed either. In any case they are inexperienced.
2. Assuming that their draft will be promotional is not acceptable, there were many other ways you could have said their draft was inappropriate and non-notable and you chose that of all things.
Finally, the drafts were a copyright violation, that doesn't mean that it couldn't have been improved or that a new draft can't be created with proper guidance. Tenshi! (Talk page) 03:20, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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If this continues from them, I'd suggest bringing it up at WP:ANI. It does come off as WP:BITEy. — EF5 01:09, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for TenshiBot 2! It will come in handy. CF-501 (talk · contribs) 04:41, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

About Draft:Biography of Yousseif A – clarification

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Regarding Draft:Biography of Yousseif A – seeking clarification

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Hello @Tenshi Hinanawi, and thank you for your work reviewing new drafts.

I recently submitted the draft Draft:Biography of Yousseif A, and I saw your note about possible LLM content. I just wanted to clarify that this draft was entirely rewritten manually, in my own words, and based on sources I collected myself. I'm doing my best as a newcomer to follow Wikipedia's standards.

If you had specific concerns about tone or structure, I’d really appreciate any feedback so I can improve the draft. I’m happy to adjust anything necessary to meet expectations.

Many thanks in advance for your time and guidance!

156.209.52.181 (talk) 00:57, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty sure that was written by an LLM. In any case though, the references are leading to missing pages, meaning those can't be verified. Additionally, the two unsourced sections (Early life and education, Training) need to be sourced. Also, stick to one draft, there's no need to create a new page for every submission and it doesn't give any new reviewers context on previous reviews. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 01:07, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot for your helpful and clear feedback, @Tenshi Hinanawi.
I appreciate your time and I now understand what needs to be addressed:
- I’ll revise the references to make sure they all lead to valid, verifiable pages.
- I’ll add proper citations to the unsourced sections (early life, training).
- I’ll stop using multiple draft pages and focus only on Draft:Biography of Yousseif A.
The goal is to improve the article in line with community standards, and I welcome any further suggestions you might have.
Thanks again for your guidance.
EditorYAEgypt (talk) 02:55, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Importance ratings for Canadian provinces in WPCanada banner

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Hello Tenshi - I noticed that TenshiBot has added parameters like, " Talk:Al Mosher 20:48 +18 TenshiBot talk contribs (Task 3: Mark WikiProject Canada ns-importance parameter as low.)" recently. Please tell the bot to stop doing that. In the WikiProject Canada banner, the provinces don't have importance ratings, so the bot is adding an invalid parameter. I will be undoing several edits by TenshiBot this morning. Thank you, PKT(alk) 11:59, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, when I checked the parameter was part of the template? Please check for yourself in case I am somehow missing this. Tenshi! (Talk page) 12:03, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the bot has already finished. This was Wikipedia:Bot requests#WikiProject Nova Scotia importance tags (filed as TenshiBot 3). — Tenshi! (Talk page) 12:07, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PKT Just seen this when posting below. Nova Scotia is the only province that does have an importance parameter, see Template talk:WikiProject Canada. -- MediaKyle (talk) 14:42, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK then - sure, why not? ............ PKT(alk) 15:49, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you

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Thank you very much for taking on the bot request for WikiProject Nova Scotia. Your time and efforts are much appreciated. MediaKyle (talk) 14:38, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bro the draft "Yet Another Dialog" has some citations that aren't independent sources. For example, some info is gotten from a repo. Self-views are likely to be biased, but uh... Gnu779 ( talk) 04:53, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GitHub is a user-generated website and cannot be used as a reliable source. The manpage holds nothing to indicate notability. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 12:08, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And there aren't many sources on YAD, though. It is so lesser-known that there aren't many good sources. I'd be issuing a {{db-g7}} Gnu779 ( talk) 15:43, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I mean I'll issue it when I give up finding enough notable sources. See Wikipedia:Reliable Sources for all that... Gnu779 ( talk) 15:45, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Western Missouri Medical Center

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Thank you for taking the time to comment on my edits. The content you deleted were links in the public domain to the clinics associated with this medical institution. I provided the citation. Would it be acceptable is included a citation to each external website instead of a link?

I don’t believe I used copyrighted information as it is just a list of clinics. Doglover.Coton (talk) 23:37, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The links are not copyrighted, but are a violation of the guideline on external links, specifically the general requirement that they should not be used in the body of an article (which looking back upon it I should have included in the edit summary). The material that was copyrighted was the listing of specialty services. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 23:47, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So, if I created citations instead of links, this would be ok? Doglover.Coton (talk) 05:07, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, it wouldn't be unless the links support the content (bearing in mind it is a primary source). — Tenshi! (Talk page) 13:19, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I modified this and included a list of services cited in the Hospital website. Before reverting (hopefully not needed) can you let me know if this is ok? I will modify as needed instead of having to start over.
I appreciate your help. Doglover.Coton (talk) 13:25, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As stated prior, The material that was copyrighted was the listing of specialty services. You cannot add the exact list of services from their website, doing so is a copyright violation. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 13:28, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully,
I did a search requesting from this information from non-copyright sources.
This was the result:
The list of specialties at Western Missouri Medical Center is available from their official, non-copyrighted website. Core specialties and services include:
• Family Medicine
• Internal Medicine
• Pediatrics
• General Surgery (including bariatric and minimally invasive procedures)
• Orthopedics & Sports Medicine
• Emergency Medicine (Level III Stroke and Trauma Center)
• Cardiology
• Obstetrics/Gynecology (including certified nurse-midwives and a birth center)
• Oncology
• Express (urgent) care
• Endocrinology/Diabetes Care
• Vascular Surgery
• Advanced Wound Care
• Rehabilitation Services
These specialties are publicly listed on Western Missouri Medical Center’s official website and provider directory. There is no copyright restriction on listing or summarizing these services when sourced from open-access pages.
So, why can’t this be included? Doglover.Coton (talk) 15:15, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If other sources are taking it from their website, that does not change that it is a copyright violation, furthermore using those sources would likely constitute a copyright violation as well. Their website explicitly states Western Missouri Medical Center. All Rights Reserved., it cannot be licenced here under CC BY-SA 4.0 and the GFDL. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 15:25, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I went to the TeaHouse and sought guidance on this and the reply was that the list was not “copyrightable”.
I understand that verbiage and descriptions might not be able to be included as somebody wrote them. But this is not really a creative issue.
Is there a way we can come to an agreement? Doglover.Coton (talk) 22:15, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The response that Andy gave you was probably not copyrightable, not "not copyrightable". I disagree with that for the reasons stated prior, but at the end of the day it depends on the reviewing administrator and their decision. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 22:19, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I appreciate all the input and I will certainly be more on the lookout for copyright issues.
In the end, I’ll delete the list. I just wanted to include that although it is a Regional hospitals it is not limited. But I suppose readers can just go to their website for more info.
Sign me up”still learning” Doglover.Coton (talk) 22:24, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page mover granted

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Hello, Tenshi Hinanawi. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

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Thanks for handing the requested move Straits Steamship. Just wanted to point out that you didn't update wikilinks to the old primary topic, so they ended up pointing to the new primary topic after the move. I'll fix this since I already know where all the links are (from previous exhaustive check for disambiguation) but please don't forget in the future! Cheers, 2406:3003:2007:1F3:B4FC:62FA:6BF7:F6CD (talk) 04:25, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did check, but everything from Special:WhatLinksHere didn't actually contain links to either Straits Steamship Company or Straits Steamship Company Limited, which was confusing? Not sure what happened there, but thanks for doing it. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 11:41, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are two templates that linked to the article, which were then further transcluded onto one more template and from there >200 articles. In that massive haystack there was one needle, General Miles, that actually contained a link in its article source.
I don't know why WhatLinksHere works like this and agree it's very confusing. Worse still, I think it's based on server-side cached copies of the articles, so even though I fixed the links something like 9 or 10 hours ago, as I write this message there's still >100 spurious articles listed here that haven't updated to reflect changes in the template that they contain.
When I need to find instances of "actual" wikilinks that appear in the source and get a lot of such false positives due to templates, my usual solution is to run a search that looks like insource:/\[\[Straits Steamship Company \(North America\)[\]\|]/i which in this case gives the three pages in question (now pointing to the new location). (Let me know if you'd like more explanation about the search string.)
— 2406:3003:2007:1F3:B4FC:62FA:6BF7:F6CD (talk) 14:13, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That works a lot better than WhatLinksHere it seems. Odd, but I'll remember it for when I next need to do a primary topic change. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 14:16, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for implementing the bot task that I recommended to remind AFC reviewers of drafts in review. In the case in point, I had tried to accept the draft, and the accept script didn't complete. Thank you for implementing the bot task. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:22, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to hear that it's helped. Tenshi! (Talk page) 02:29, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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For implementing Tenshibot Task 2, reminding AFC reviewers of drafts under review for 48 hours. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:24, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Move

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Hello, thanks for attending my undiscussed move revert request, if you could also move the talk page as I believe you've missed it by accident [1] (nice username choice by the way :) ). Super Ψ Dro 15:33, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly sure what happened there, but usually the checkbox is highlighted for moving the associated talk page as well. Might be because of the confirmation prompt for moving over a redirect pointing elsewhere. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 15:39, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GPGPU hardware page

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?redirect=no&title=General-purpose_computing_on_graphics_processing_units_(hardware) - I just finished off this page tonight, after working on it yesterday and creating the (completely transparent) redirect, only to find the work has gone: the redirect which I had prepared as a disambiguation page is destroyed. would you be so kind as to revert that, so I do not have to recreate the work already done? tia. Lkcl (talk) 17:00, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

okaay, you've been "had". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1305610765 - the claim is made "disambiguation is wrong" - the existence of even an hours' research *proving* the existence of GPGPU hardware demonstrates the ignorance of the editor making the false claim. they should have talked to me, read the talk page, discussed it, notified me of the intention to make the delete request: not one single one of those things has occurred. if you could kindly revert the redirect which *has no impact* (being a redirect) I would be most grateful. Lkcl (talk) 17:14, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My response is the same that you've been given at WP:RMTR. This needs to be discussed after it has been reverted. Tenshi! (Talk page) 17:42, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
like this? did I get that right? (ty btw) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests&oldid=1305712643 Lkcl (talk) 01:29, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This page move has been speedily reverted per policy, and the DAB page restored. However, for future reference @Lkcl, DAB pages should never reference DRAFT pages, nor should not contain commenary, and that is what led to this mess to begin with, and DAB pages are not created pre-emptively. The hardware page was not brought to main space until 16:52, August 13, 202 whereas the DAB page was made by request at WP:RMTR by an experienced user at 02:43, 13 August 2025 (UTC) and handled by Tenshi at 02:46, August 13, 2025 (over 14 hours before your hardware article was published). THere was NOTHING inappropraite about how that page move was performed, and the onus is not on either of them to notify you. Please read and understand how WP:BRD works. Page move discussions are not required to consider "future" artciles, nor those in "draft state". Furthermore, looking at the state of the hardware page at the time this move was performed link, you can see that the article was FAR from being in any state ready for being brought to the mainspace. Furthermore, there is a chance that the article, in it's current state, might not meet the quality standards for mainspace inclusion. TiggerJay(talk) 03:43, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also just to be clear, I see that Lkcl was the first to boldly move the software page without discussion, and therefore is subject to a speedy revert, but that is not the reason given for the page move, but rather regarding the disambiguation issue noted above. TiggerJay(talk) 04:02, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
appreciated TiggerJay, this level of involvement in WP was not something I was anticipating doing in my life. I had almost finished the DAB page preparation (redirect hides it, nobody will notice), left it as a redirect (no harm done), rapidly wrote the hardware stub, and was too exhausted to continue. woke in the morning (UTC+5h30) finished the HW page to qualify as a stub to reasonable standards, was about to remove the redirect and all comments... and... smack - no DAB page. I'll avoid this procedure in future (relying on a redirect to "hide" WIP conversion to DAB) as it is not something people understand. welcome to autism... Lkcl (talk) 04:54, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In the future, the correct course would have been to (1) create the draft space article, (2) bring that article to main space; and then (3) hand the disambiguation issue after there was actually something to disambiguate. Instead, you put the cart-before-the-horse with your premature disambiguation, page moves, etc. Main space pages with commentary such as this or link to draft space such as this are NOT permitted, this was not an otherwise hidden redirect, or "no harm done". Autism is no excuse for not following the policies and guidelines, I'm sorry if you've been led to believe otherwise, you are responsible for your actions regardless of why you are behaving the way you are. TiggerJay(talk) 05:22, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Tiggerjay: I don't think it was appropriate to revert the move after it was reverted. WP:RMUM states that if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Moreover, I don't think that the dabifying was the reason for the initial RMTR request, it was the article name's parenthetical disambiguation (since there was no dab at the time of the request). A RM discussion should have been the next step here since the move was controversial. Tenshi! (Talk page) 10:16, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tenshi, after digging into it more after my initial revert, I believe you are correct. I went to bed thinking about it further, and will very seriously considering the best way to rectify this situation. It looks like Lkcl has been quite busy over the last several hours, so I want to see what has been done there. Although as last check he simply wants to do his own thing, IAR, and POV push his ideas. All of which don't sit well. In a few hours, I'll review everything related to this again with fresh eyes, and consider if a RM, multi-page RM, or just yet another revert (back to the stable name) would be best. Happy to receive your suggestions on what to do now. TiggerJay(talk) 13:39, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think doing any moves currently would be helpful, any further moves should be done after an RM to avoid move-warring. Tenshi! (Talk page) 16:24, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your insight. It looks like Lkcl is very stirred up over this issue, and so I'm just going to back away completely to avoid any escalation. I'll defer to you to raise any RM discussions regarding these pages - which while I would probably support, I will abstain from any involvement on pages which this users seems to be so passionate about. TiggerJay(talk) 17:13, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I justed ping'd you on the RM page, thinking per our discussion and the current unanimous support, and the current block in place, that this move is now effectively a non-controversial revert of an undiscussed move. If you'd feel more comfortable, you might be able to get Ivan to speedy-close it to avoid direct involvement. But I think the post-block-mop-work should be done sooner than 7 days. Just my 2 cents. TiggerJay(talk) 02:28, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not really sure on soliciting a closure from a specific administrator, that doesn't seem to be a good idea. It may be better to seek a close at WP:CR. Tenshi! (Talk page)#

I'm not an LLM!

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Tenshi! - you collapsed a number of relevant arguments, under the pretence that I am an LLM, or using an LLM for my commentary. I assure you, I am not an LLM, my points, my thoughts, and commentary are my own, I am a professional writer and advocating for a great deal of work I put into a relevant article, which User talk:REAL MOUSE IRL effectively deleted through a haphazard (and I believe poorly researched and a jerk reaction) with a forward. I believe the forward (which makes the article inaccessible) is against the policy of wikipedia - to preserve as opposed to delete (Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion), etc, etc. - all relevant points carefully researched in the comments you collapsed (and thus effectively threw out, it would appear also without reading, IMHO).

My initial response which started the thread was very distressed - and I used an LLM remove my emotion (per WIkipedia's guidelines as well - to stay positive!). Which I clarified, when asked. I was trying to ensure I was as respectful and dignified as possible - but it didn't changed the facts and value of the work for Wikipedia's purpose. Admittedly, I'm just learning, and I am open to better understanding.

I spent literally hours researching and preparing the last argument you collapsed to advocate for the days of valuable work I put into a very appropriate and relevant article, as it's getting randomly thrown out over a series of deepening confusions and new people throwing in additional confusion (insert you!). Although it's a nice compliment for my prose to be compared to an LLM, I assure you, I am not so. Just a wordy person with a strong command of the English language.

Instead of accusing me incorrectly of using an LLWM - would you consider reading my arguments? Perhaps advocating or challenging my thinking instead? I would greatly appreciate this. It would be a far greater help to my learning than simply erasing my thoughts based on the hypothesis that I am a machine.

And NOTE, I DID NOT use an LLM or any form of intelligence (likely not even mine own) in writing this. I let my writing flow, in order to prove the point that I can, indeed, write a purposeful and appropriate argument without the use of an assistive device. Should I include more emotion to validate this? Or speling mistakes or grammatically issues? Or incorrect arguments, in future, in order to be validated as a human being? Should I froth? Or add platitudes? Is drama what makes an argument human, vs. the writing of an LLM? I'm confused, but clearly would love to learn. I'm frustrated. Quepenamivida (talk) 18:38, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Quepenamivida: I responded on your talk previously, please read the message there. Tenshi! (Talk page) 18:42, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ha! Funny - I was responding here, while you were responding there. So what do I do now? Just accept that any argument I make to defend my work is hereby infinitely invalid and thus wasted?
Apologies, I do not mean to badger, and I certain mean no disrespect, I'm just lost. Do I just give up and go away? I would really appreciate knowing what I should do next. Is there an alternative place I can go to understand what my next action should be? The whole conversation has been closed with, what I believe, is an obviously incorrect (and under-discussed idea, once you called out my comments).
Is my work just lost now? I literally don't know where to go or what to do next.
I deeply thank you in advance for any direction you can give me. Quepenamivida (talk) 19:09, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you think that their BLAR was wrong and that it is notable, you can revert them. Though, be warned that it may lead to an AfD discussion. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:14, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I really appreciate this, thanks. Is there a place I can ask a more experienced admin to review my article, and my comments about it's notability (generated by me, not an LLM, lol).
Or should this be done on the article talk page? Or is there another place?
Again, thank you, I really appreciate the help. Quepenamivida (talk) 19:19, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Whether someone is an admin or not has no bearing on determining the article's notability. Questions about notability that you have are likely to be answerable at the Wikipedia help desk, if not then you'll be pointed in the right direction. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:23, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Quepenamivida (talk) 19:27, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

quiet alert

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hi Tenshii, so you are aware - a "disruptive" response has been levied -due to the same risk from the medical issues at birth I cannot engage with these people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents?markasread=338745565&markasreadwiki=enwiki#c-A._B.-20250816151700-Ivanvector-20250816145400 Lkcl (talk) 15:43, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was already aware of this, though why do you think a "quiet alert" is needed? Tenshi! (Talk page) 15:49, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New page reviewer granted

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Hi Tenshi Hinanawi, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the new page reviewer user right to your account. This means you now have access to the page curation tools and can start patrolling pages from the new pages feed. If you asked for this at requests for permissions, please check back there to see if your access is time-limited or if there are other comments.

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You can find a list of other useful links and tools for patrollers at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Resources. If you are ever unsure what to do, ask your fellow patrollers or just leave the page for someone else to review – you're not alone! Salvio giuliano 19:13, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion regarding your removal of RfC tag on OSU protest article

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Talk:Ohio State University pro-Palestinian campus protests during the Gaza war - Wikipedia

Hi Tenshi Hinanawi,

Could you please elaborate on why you removed the RfC tag from Talk:Ohio State University pro-Palestinian campus protests during the Gaza war#Requested move 19 August 2025? I don't understand why this might cause an edit war.

All the best, Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 19:26, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See Special:Diff/1307133808, where Legobot tried to insert a RFC ID on WP:RMCD. Due to the nature of the page, RMCD bot overwrites it with the latest data, meaning that Legobot will put the RFC ID back again (resulting in a bot edit war). Also it's a bit unnecessary to hold an RfC in an ongoing requested move, and is not a supported use per WP:RFCNOT. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:31, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tenshi Hinanawi Thank you for elaborating. This all makes sense to me.
That said, the page move request has evolved to a discussion regarding moving 21 pages, not just one, which is why I added the RfC tag—because these kinds of widespread changes need broad attention before being decided upon.
Therefore, if you have alternate suggestions from RfC for attracting more editors to the discussion for review, this would be appreciated.
Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 19:53, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There isn't, as far as I understand as a participant. If a potential closer finds that the RM needs more discussion, it will be relisted. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:57, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. If you could provide your own feedback to help close the discussion, this would be much appreciated (though you're obviously under no obligation to do so) as I've been trying to tidy this discussion up so that I can get started moving the listed articles.
Regardless, wishing you all the best. Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 20:57, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion reminder

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Hi there, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! You recently nominated Draft:Vocational Training in Nepal for speedy deletion via G15. I have gone ahead and deleted the article. However, I noticed that you did not inform the article creator about the deletion nomination. Informing the article creator and major contributors about speedy deletion is highly recommended. Notifications are especially useful to new editors who may not know what they did wrong or even that their article has been deleted. I have heard many newbies ask, "Where did my article go?" Beyond this, notifying the creator and major contributors gives them an opportunity to contest the deletion. Given this, I highly recommend you make sure to notify editors when you nominate their work for deletion. Let me know if you have any follow-up questions, comments, and/or concerns. Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:40, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I didn't realise I hadn't notified them, will make sure to do so in future for G15 nominations (since its not available as a CSD on Twinkle or any other tool that I know of). Tenshi! (Talk page) 16:46, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol September 2025 Backlog drive

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:32, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reverting, I'm just starting out with copyvio patrolling and am still quite unsure of the workings. Squawk7700 (talk) 23:14, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You'll figure it out eventually, easier to bother an admin with revdel requests than miss close paraphasing in an article. If they disagree they'll let you know why. Tenshi! (Talk page) 23:38, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from LoneStarEmber (09:42, 30 August 2025)

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How do I bold a band name? What’s the next step to publishing a live article after submitting draft in sandbox? Thanks --LoneStarEmber (talk) 09:42, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @LoneStarEmber:, you can bold a band name by encapsulating it in three ' ('''), like '''this'''. On what to do after submitting a draft, this page may help you in that. Tenshi! (Talk page) 13:04, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

your revert

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Hello,

The article merger page seems to be quite an obscure part of Wikipedia, so the proposal may be never seen. How do I do to make the merge proposal more visible?

Thank you 176.159.12.72 (talk) 14:58, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that there's anywhere else to put it. You've already listed it at proposed article mergers and its in Category:All articles to be merged. VPR isn't really a good place to advertise merge proposals. Typically merge proposals can be closed by involved participants if there has been no discussion or if there's unanimous support for a merge, though there has been opposition on the talk page, so you might want to list it at WP:CR when discussion has stalled or come to an end & a week has passed. Tenshi! (Talk page) 15:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Copy right violation - Umayyad

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Can I ask which source violated the copy rights is it the UNESCO one? Prosnu (talk) 23:03, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Do you not remember what websites you copied your content from? If you used an LLM/AI/Chatbot, there is often copyrighted material found in their generated answers. Otherwise, you should remember what was copy-pasted from other sources. TiggerJay(talk) 02:05, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
[2]. Tenshi! (Talk page) 11:37, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Angie Eveleigh (10:51, 31 August 2025)

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Hello I want to know is Wikipedia only for famous people or can I also have a page --Angie Eveleigh (talk) 10:51, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only people that Wikipedia considers notable have pages, it does not matter if they are famous or not, they need to be covered in multiple reliable sources that are in depth and independent of the subject. Tenshi! (Talk page) 11:37, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Can you please check for me if this article has copyright problem ? User:Dewainvestama/sandbox. RangersRus (talk) 21:40, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any copyright issues, though it looks like they tried to use the draft template and didn't really remove the example text. Tenshi! (Talk page) 21:47, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RMTR Revert regarding Draft:Tarleton Helmet

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It is not the correct venue to deal with this issue because the page does not appear to be ready for mainspace as there are multiple issues with the draft -- which is beyond the scope of RMTR. Unfortunately it appears this editor is venue shopping, going about it in the wrong way which is self-defeating their attempts. I left some helpful information on their talk page -- but in short, they should properly submit the article for AfC, which they haven't done, which is causing all of their problems. Please consider reverting your revert, as this article should go through AfC-submission before moving into the main article space. TiggerJay(talk) 18:57, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See response on User talk:MWFwiki. Tenshi! (Talk page) 18:58, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Tenshi Hinanawi! I can see you've done a WP:BLPPROD for নাজমুল_নবীন, thank you for this. I was slightly confused over how to proceed. I noticed the author removed the templates you added earlier today. I assumed WP:A2 or WP:A10 would apply for this article, however following the [flowchart] led me to BLP PROD or WP:A7. Could A7 be applied to this article assuming the author removes the PROD template and doesn't add any references as it instructs? 11WB (talk) 17:29, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A7 wouldn't apply here because there's a CCS (from machine translation: Nazmul Nabin is a Bangladeshi director and screenwriter who has so far produced two short films, Modern Times and Aral, for which he was awarded the Meril-Prothom Alo Award as Best Director., the CCS being the award and producing films), though I imagine A7 can be applied regardless if there's a BLP PROD or not. Also, no one cannot remove BLP PRODs unless they add a source. Tenshi! (Talk page) 17:38, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, okay. This is helpful to know, thanks! I'll remember to assume good faith and if the template is removed without an added source, that edit can be reverted, restoring the PROD. 11WB (talk) 17:43, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To add on, if the blp prod is removed without remedying the concern of no reliable sources being added, the blp prod template will be reinserted with the original timestamp. – robertsky (talk) 17:43, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I have cleaned up the author's talk page, as I made a bit of a mess attempting to apply A2/A10, multiple automated messages were sent there, I've now removed these as Tenshi's is the correct one. 11WB (talk) 17:46, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RM close

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Would you consider relisting Talk:Who_Are_You_(The_Who_song)#Requested_move_28_August_2025? There were only 3 participants, with the two who opposed doing so with no basis in policy (being against any case of partial disambiguation having a primary topic, which is contrary to WP:INCDAB). Thanks, Mdewman6 (talk) 01:41, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reversed. Tenshi! (Talk page) 02:08, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from RichardW1010 (20:11, 6 September 2025)

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How do I submit an article to get listed in wikipedia about my company --RichardW1010 (talk) 20:11, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:YFA and WP:Conflict of interest as you are writing about your company, which you must declare. Tenshi! (Talk page) 20:31, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kerosene Creek move request

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I don't think a no consensus closure was correct here. 3 editors supported and 2 opposed but the oppose votes were based on flawed premises such as recentism, which was incorrect and about how another creek has the same name (but it lacks a Wikipedia article so that doesn't matter). Traumnovelle (talk) 20:17, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree. I don't see consensus here, even after looking again at the move request. Tenshi! (Talk page) 20:31, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The arguments against the move are weak and not grounded in policy with most of them being shown to be based on incorrect premises (such as that the name is an example of recentism, but there is used of the name back to the 19th century) Traumnovelle (talk) 20:48, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I don't agree that the closure wasn't correct. If you disagree, you are free to take it to Move Review. Tenshi! (Talk page) 00:00, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think you have enough experience to be making closures in general if all you can articulate to support a close with is 'I disagree' Traumnovelle (talk) 00:05, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Not sure what else you want me to say, I find that they have valid arguments about Hakereteke Stream being the WP:COMMONNAME, likewise with yours and the others' reasoning who supported Kerosene Creek. The discussion had clearly died out and there was no clear consensus, to close either as consensus not to move or consensus to move would be supervoting. Tenshi! (Talk page) 00:19, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just to formally note I've opened the move review request. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:36, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Traumnovelle - I believe that Tenshi has made his position clear, you don't have to like it, nor even agree with it. If you believe so greatly that you are correct in this matter, bring it to Move Review, he has already given you permission TWICE. Your continued badgering is boardline uncivil behavior and inappropraite. You have asked - Tenshi has answered. It sounds like they are standing firm, which is equally their right to do. Let a MR decide if he is qualified to close such discussions. To be clear this is NOT to be viewed as an endorsement of their closure, but rather specifically about your behavior in this matter. TiggerJay(talk) 00:13, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was about to take it to move review. I expected an actual explanation of the closure and not 'I disagree', which doesn't demonstrate any actual understanding of the discussion at all. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:30, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Abdi saakir (07:32, 8 September 2025)

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Hi my mentor, i want to edit the Las Anod article but it's protected, so please help me --Abdi saakir (talk) 07:32, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can make an edit request on the article's talk page, see WP:EDITREQUEST. Tenshi! (Talk page) 11:47, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Spiritual Organisation Of Pakistan (23:15, 9 September 2025)

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I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly request permission or guidance regarding the creation of a new article on Wikipedia about About Historical places of Pakistan . --Spiritual Organisation Of Pakistan (talk) 23:15, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that pages related to Pakistan have been designated as a contentious topic under WP:CT/SA. I will place a template on your talk page to alert you of this. On creating an article about historical places of Pakistan, we have List of cities in Pakistan by population to which you could find individual articles about cities and add historical info to there (provided it is properly cited according to our sourcing policies)? Also, your username does not comply with our username policies as it implies shared use. Please request a username change here. Tenshi! (Talk page) 23:50, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting of page move for SS Ultonia

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Hi Tenshi, Thanks for taking a look at the move, it's not a controversial move and no objections have been made in the seven days since listing. I refer to WP:RMNOMIN in that a lack of objection is not the same as a lack of consensus, which would recommend closing the move as per the request in the absence of another reason to relist. Was there another reason you felt relisting was the better option? Tobin Dax (talk) 13:42, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Undid the relist, though I'm not really comfortable closing the RM due to concerns about my closes. Tenshi! (Talk page) 14:11, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Understood, thanks. It's not an easy job, closing RMs, I always stay away from it myself, always tricky to get right and it's a minefield of specific policies, even in simple cases like Ultonia... Tobin Dax (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled

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Hello Sir, and thank you for your earlier review of Draft:World Designing Forum. I have revised the draft to address the issues you noted — including citation formatting, neutral tone, and removal of AfC clutter. When convenient, I’d be grateful if you could take another look. Anami Research (talk) 18:34, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't re-review AfC submissions on request. Also, I think you're looking for either Haj or Pythoncoder as I haven't reviewed Draft:World Designing Forum. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:14, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Editor experience invitation

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Hi Tenshi Hinanawi. I'm looking for experienced editors to here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:50, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Responded. Tenshi! (Talk page) 16:01, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. If you ever remember what you wanted to add in the "feel free to share" section, you can edit it at any time. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:39, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. Tenshi! (Talk page) 16:52, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Joshua Olal Believer (09:42, 20 September 2025)

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Hi, how can I start sharing and editing information on wikipedia? --Joshua Olal Believer (talk) 09:42, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Introduction to Wikipedia. Tenshi! (Talk page) 12:05, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Asher Ali Khan (18:26, 20 September 2025)

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If I write a article about my Micronation, would it be taken down? --Asher Ali Khan (talk) 18:26, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles need to be sourced and meet the notability standard. The relevant standard that would apply is the general notability guideline. Also, you would have a conflict of interest and must declare it. If articles aren't sourced or notable, they are deleted. Tenshi! (Talk page) 18:31, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Firefly report question

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Hello, Was the refresh rate for enwiki changed today? It seems to be updating enwiki every hour (on the :47) when it's forever been updating every 15 minutes. Other wiki reports (at least the ones I pay attention to) appear to be updating at their standard rates and hourly is too slow a rate for enwiki. Zinnober9 (talk) 03:33, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't changed the rate which it updates, no. It might be related to how I removed every closed case on the CCI case stats page, but chances are its more likely to be the job drift thats been happening on Toolforge for a few months now. Tenshi! (Talk page) 10:38, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to be back to normal now. The slight drift is not unexpected. It just was odd to be looking at it around :34 and seeing it hadn't updated in three expected intervals, and it stayed the same way for a few hours updating on the :47s so wondered if there had been change on the update timer. Glad the rate hasn't been changed. Thanks for the reply, Zinnober9 (talk) 13:45, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to have happened again only 15 minutes ago. I suspect that this time of day isn't good for Toolforge jobs running on time. Tenshi! (Talk page) 00:19, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TenshiBot 4 oddos

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Letting you know that TenshiBot 4 had two incorrect edits with [3] [4] in case these help improve the bot later. It added s tags within a cite template and a User-multi template that contained linefeeds. Considering you've cleanly cleared off (so far as I can tell) nearly all of the 600+ of these errors from Project space, 2 flagged errors ain't so bad. Thanks and best wishes, Zinnober9 (talk) 01:26, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know. I'm probably going to run it again because the script missed pages like this which it could fix but skipped because of an error in the script. Tenshi! (Talk page) 11:14, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Set to ignore multiline templates now, along with the other problem I found. Let me know if it happens again or something else pops up. Tenshi! (Talk page) 13:13, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work with the bot. It looks like it edited about 3,400 pages, which is close to my original estimate of 3,800. Skipping some affected pages was likely the right thing to do. Are you interested in expanding your work to more namespaces? The Talk and User talk spaces are lousy with misnested s tags. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could do. The count that I have for talk+user talk is 9,962 pages with 14,647 errors (combining <s> and <strike>). Tenshi! (Talk page) 13:48, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It would be great to have a bot make a first pass and fix all of the easy but tedious ones. Humans can tidy the oddballs. I suspect that you will find some additional situations in those namespaces that are not accounted for in your current code. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:45, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll draft a BRFA then. Tenshi! (Talk page) 18:05, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BRFA filed Tenshi! (Talk page) 18:29, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We also have small tags with the same issue, of course. You do have to watch out for split signatures, though, which I see with some frequency. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:34, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't see any way of the bot being able to reconcile split signatures, that and I imagine <small> tags would need extra handling because of the potential differences between their opening and closing tags. Tenshi! (Talk page) 22:49, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Finding some cases where it encountered tables and broke them, or templates or blockquote tags that were solo units on a line with content on lines after, and it added s tags around the start/end/break portions and didn't really fix the situation. Clearest cases are [5] (blockquotes) and [6] (tables, templates). I wound up adding style="text-decoration: line-through" to the table headers since my test of {{strikethroughdiv}} didn't behave in this situation. Can these situations be ignored for humans on future runs? The deactivated tables weren't triggering any lint errors, and the other situations just moved the error. Zinnober9 (talk) 00:31, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Should be ignored for the future. Tenshi! (Talk page) 13:09, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The bot made a small error in this edit, wrapping <ol>...</ol> tags improperly. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:51, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what could be done here, maybe requiring the <ol> tag to be after any <s> tags? Else would also have to be skipped and left to humans. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:02, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think this bot error has not been reported yet (related to blockquote tags). Please check the code to ensure that sort of situation can be skipped or processed correctly. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:11, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That particular case, or the idea in general? The idea in general is noted in link 5 above with Wikipedia talk:"In popular culture" content/Archive 3.
A different case of issue is it's placing s tags before outdents, which is another misnested issue. Placing after the OD should be the correct move. I'd rather adjust the od than add all the s tags though, but if the bot can adjust that case in future edits, that would be great.
The bot probably should have skipped this edit as it fixed about as many as it created, but to be fair, it was an odd situation. I was able to clear the issues in the next edit though. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:37, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Missed by the bot

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I'm going through some of the remaining misnested s tags in Wikipedia space. I wonder why the bot missed Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2014 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final/archive1. I'm going to leave it for now so that you can compare the text pattern with your bot's code. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:43, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I get (Post-post filtering) Unclosed wikilink (23): *<s>“[[Carlos Valdés (footballer)]]|Carlos Valdes]]”</s>, which is because of the extra ]]. Tenshi! (Talk page) 18:49, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, GIGO. Best to avoid it if you are a bot. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:51, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TenshiBot 5 logging

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@Jonesey95 and Zinnober9: It was suggested by DreamRimmer (the approving BAG member) that the bot should log unusual cases in userspace so humans can review them. Do you think this would be useful? If so, to what extent should it be logged? For reference, currently it is coded to only output any inability to edit a page (edit conflicts, template or fully protected pages, or exclusion compliance issues) to User:TenshiBot/Errors, along with anything which causes an error that stops the script (though as I have learned, it does not report infinite loops). Everything else is logged to a file, which is usually debugging information about how many misnests it finds, but also whenever it skips any page (very common), and any issues detected in post-post filtering where it had to undo a fix. Also, the code is here if you want to see the specific messages it typically logs. Tenshi! (Talk page) 17:41, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think the logging of errors and skips is sufficient. Both of those should catch "unusual" cases that are different from what the bot is expected to fix. You might be able to learn how to process new patterns from the skips. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:23, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I defer to Jonesey95's greater knowledge in this area, but those sound good to me. In my way of thinking, if it's avoiding the unusual cases, those remaining lint errors would then be reviewed by a human later when the editor goes after those remaining misnested s errors. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bot is running now, so the log will be up once it finishes its run. Tenshi! (Talk page) 15:49, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Log page: User:TenshiBot/Logs/Skips. Tenshi! (Talk page) 12:57, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"(Copyvio redacted)"

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On this pair of edits: The majority of web pages quoted in Wikipedia are copyright. And the majority of these are conventionally copyright ("all rights reserved"). Are you saying that quoting a single, fourteen-word sentence from such a web page constitutes copyright violation? -- Hoary (talk) 23:25, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The draft used it without quoting or attributing it to the author in inline text, in violation of WP:COPYQUOTE. I'll admit this becomes a grey area because you have quoted it from the draft, which was violating copyright and was neither quoted or attributed to the author. Tenshi! (Talk page) 23:43, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a grey area. It is unequivocally not a copyvio to quote such a small amount, on a talk page. I have reverted the edits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:24, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not going to revert, but why do you think that? It's unattributed material that is incompatible with our licence. Being on an internal discussion page makes it less of a copyright infringement on the holder's rights? Also, fair use material in non-article space is a violation of WP:NFCC#9. Tenshi! (Talk page) 14:57, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The very first line of COPYQUOTE says "Extensive quotation of copyrighted text is prohibited." This quote was not extensive.
COMPLIC says "Limited use of copyrighted text, for example, can be done without requiring permission from the rights holders for such things as scholarship and review." Note "for example"; the suggested uses are not an exhaustive list.
The part of NFCC which you quote includes that it is "subject to exemptions"
You have shown no policy which prohibits such a quote.
Your claim that it was done "without quoting or attributing it to the author" is also false. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:14, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:COPYQUOTE also states that All quotations must be attributed to their sources.
Wikipedia:Non-free content#Unacceptable use includes Unattributed pieces of text from a copyrighted source.
The exemptions of WP:NFCC#9 you mention link to WP:NFEXMP. Quotes are not listed at WP:NFEXMP.
By all means this was unattributed. The draft author did not attribute the copyrighted source, in the citation given it linked to a different page on the same website. Hoary then copied from the draft, which by extension means that the quote is also unattributed. To add, the draft in this case was also RD1'd. Tenshi! (Talk page) 16:10, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I don't think it is true that such a quote must be attributed to comply with copyright requirements (that would not allow us to use the RefDesk to ask, for example, "Which song includes the lyrics 'Hey, Teacher, leave those kids alone'?"); the full post was:

I quote the lead: "His innovative and groundbreaking contributions have shaped the work and careers of sexologists worldwide." With a reference, to Neil Cannon himself.

I'm not clear why you think "His innovative and groundbreaking contributions have shaped the work and careers of sexologists worldwide" in that post was not attributed to Neil Cannon. Perhaps you can explain? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:25, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those aren't his words, they're from the Cannon Institute's website, marked with "© 2025 Cannon Institute" at the bottom of the page. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:33, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TenshiBot 5 edit comments

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Please do not interpret these as criticism. I want the bot to make the best edits possible. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:05, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all, I'd be surprised if there was a bot task where no errors happened whatsoever. Tenshi! (Talk page) 16:10, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Hscjageidsb37 on Clark Lea (18:38, 30 September 2025)

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How do I add a photo of a individual? --Hscjageidsb37 (talk) 18:38, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Uploading images, it has instructions on how to do so and the steps you must do, and the things you must check beforehand. Tenshi! (Talk page) 21:56, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Compromised account?

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I don't know what you were trying to do at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Edit see combined diff, but you really messed it up, and honestly it looks like vandalism. I have reverted the page back before you started editing it. What's going on? ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 19:30, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not compromised. See WP:Linter for the details about lint errors. I'm not sure what you mean by messed it up exactly? I will readd the request with permalinks to the changes to avoid the bot being unhappy. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:33, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see, the request got lost amid that massive diff which no admin would be willing to take the time to implement. If these changes matter, you can make them yourself once the protecting administrator responds and reduces the page protection. Why it's full-protected, I have no idea, and I'd like to know the reason before I revert another administrator.
~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 19:40, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Neither do I really know why its protected. I'll make requests for the other two pages that haven't been requested yet. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:50, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This version does not look broken to me. I don't know what Anachronist means by the requests getting lost; there are three normal section headers that appear in the TOC. These are two edit requests to fix Linter errors. Normally, editors or bots would perform these edits, but the pages are protected for some reason. Maybe WOSlinker would be willing to tidy up these pages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:54, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It looked broken to me, but I see now that it isn't. My mistake.
In any case, I'd rather not see massive diffs like this in edit requests, especially for changes that effectively are of no consequence. If you want to make such changes, then get the page unprotected first, then make the change. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 22:28, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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