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[edit]- Call Out (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article's second line, The single was given no airplay attention with the music video only available to see on the band's website for a limited time and on YouTube
, is a pretty clear indication it doesn't pass WP:NSONG. Did a WP:BEFORE search of charts & reviews anyway just in case, with no results.
Normally I'd suggest a redirect to album as AtD, but this title may be more appropriate for a {{R from other capitalisation}} redirect to Call out instead. Nil🥝 01:18, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Renegades (Feeder album): I fully agree here. Considering there's no SIGCOV in RS, a redirect to the album's page would be appropriate. UnregisteredBiohazard talk to me 01:28, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
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- On Top (Twista song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article has been unsourced since its creation in 2009. Doesn't appear to meet WP:NSONG, as I found no chart history (via acharts.co), and no coverage in reliable sources. Would also support a redirect to the album Category F5 as an AtD. Nil🥝 01:04, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Category F5: Only coverage of the song comes from articles about the album, so a redirect to the album itself would be appropriate. UnregisteredBiohazard talk to me 01:31, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Blackest Hair, Bluest Eyes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find much coverage of this album outside of passing mentions. JTtheOG (talk) 19:51, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Chris Staples#Discography: Fails WP:NALBUM. No SIGCOV in RS. UnregisteredBiohazard talk to me 00:05, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- The Seventh Life Path (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsure about reliable sources. Reviews exist from Echoes and Dust (which I believe to be reliable but may be questionable) and Angry Metal Guy (unsure of general opinion but I seem to remember seeing it rejected before), and some other sources which I have not heard of. Charting is good, but is also already present at Sirenia (band)#Discography, which would make sense as a redirect target and render their placement here redundant if that's all the article can provide. Other than the charts, the sources in the article are primaries so clearly no good. Seems like a narrow case, but I'm leaning toward redirect. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:15, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - Reviews by Louder Sound: [1], Metal.de: [2], de:Vampster: [3], de:Powermetal.de: [4], it:Metalitalia.com: [5], fi:Imperiumi.net: [6]. --Mika1h (talk) 18:22, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Plus review by Rock Hard (magazine): [7]. --Mika1h (talk) 18:28, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per above and also a review in Scream Magazine. Geschichte (talk) 19:13, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: With sources found by @Mika1h: and @Geschichte:, it's safe to assume that this album passes WP:NALBUM. UnregisteredBiohazard talk to me 19:23, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Works for me. Thanks all. Withdrawn. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 22:48, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hal'lu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The group itself is just about notable, I can't see how any of their albums meet WP:NALBUM. Yeshivish613 (talk) 13:58, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge / Redirect to The Rabbis' Sons There does not to be any basis for notability on a standalone basis. Any meaningful content should be merged to the article for the group and this article changed to a redirect. Alansohn (talk) 19:11, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Rabbis' Sons. I cannot find anything beyond this incidental mention in an interview [8]. Katzrockso (talk) 03:21, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Rabbis Sons per above. MayhemStoppingBy (talk) 17:06, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect. For the same reason, we should also delete and redirect Greatest Hits (The Rabbis' Sons album), To Life (album), and Kivinu, other non-notable albums by the same group. Longhornsg (talk) 22:38, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- How Did I Get Here? (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NALBUM. On doing a BEFORE check, I can find nil. I propose deleting this and then creating How Did I Get Here? (Badly Drawn Boy album)
as a redirect to Badly Drawn Boy discography; then, this makes way for How Did I Get Here? (Louis Tomlinson album), an album that does meet WP:GNG; hatnote can be added to direct people who somehow intended to visit this album (it has almost no views). (I'm sorry for making the RM, should've waited some more...) jolielover♥talk 04:18, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Article has no WP:RS, google search yields no coverage outside of databases. Shocksingularity (talk) 04:55, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. 162 etc. (talk) 04:56, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete There is no SIGCOV, no reviews or mentions. Katzrockso (talk) 05:03, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Ckfasdf (talk) 09:26, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Welcome to My Living Room (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There's a paragraph in this book talking about the song: [9]. The NPR reference seems to misname the The Living Room Tour CD as "Welcome to My Living Room". Regardless, it's not significant coverage. I didn't find anything else for the song or the DVD. One source is not enough for notability. Suggesting redirect to The Living Room Tour. Mika1h (talk) 19:24, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge/redirect to The Living Room Tour per nom/ATD. Nathannah • 📮 22:55, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Blue Skies (Virginians album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There are no sources in the article, and I couldn't find any when searching online. I don't think this album meets the notability requirements of WP:NALBUM. – numbermaniac 16:12, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Virginians (singers): Fails WP:NALBUM. No SIGCOV in RS. UnregisteredBiohazard talk to me 19:33, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Virginians (singers) as per @UnregisteredBiohazard. MayhemStoppingBy (talk) 19:18, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- List of albums containing a hidden track (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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- List of albums containing a hidden track (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of albums containing a hidden track: 0–9 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of albums containing a hidden track: A (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of albums containing a hidden track: B (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of albums containing a hidden track: C (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- List of albums containing a hidden track: E (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of albums containing a hidden track: F (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of albums containing a hidden track: G (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- List of albums containing a hidden track: Various artists (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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There are many, many albums that contain hidden tracks, and I don't see any reason why we should have lists of albums that happen to contain them. These lists are essentially nothing more than a load of WP:LISTCRUFT. This nomination applies to all the pages listed at Special:PrefixIndex/List_of_albums_containing_a_hidden_track. Sugar Tax (talk) 18:41, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: This article has had two prior AfD, as well as a third AfD for an article that was merged into this one.
- Delete. I fully agree here. Even if there's an WP:NLIST argument or something here that could be presented, this fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE and is certainly overkill. λ NegativeMP1 18:53, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete. I find these articles interesting and helpful. If they could be merged into one page, maybe it would satisfy WP:NLIST, but I have to agree with MP1's assessment of this currently unfortunately being overkill. Babysharkb☩ss2 (DEADMAU5) 18:55, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Please be aware of WP:ITSUSEFUL and WP:ITSINTERESTING. Sergecross73 msg me 19:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - I think the number of splits/articles here is testament enough to the fact that the scope of these articles are too wide. It fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Sergecross73 msg me 19:06, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: This list is a spinoff from Hidden track, proving notability as needed for a stand-alone list. That addresses any concerns related to WP:LISTCRUFT, which is an suggestion rather than a policy, because sources determine what is notable. In reviewing former discussions, the list was previously one article but was divided by the alphabet for functionality; this is frequently done with longer lists and is allowable by MOS. I also find that this list is selective and does not fail due to WP:INDISCRIMINATE. With a few exceptions that I have removed, the entire list includes only notable artists or notable albums. I have added this criteria to the lede of the index page for clarity, both with this AfD and for future additions. Rublamb (talk) 22:41, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Being a spinoff of a notable concept doesn't inherently make this list notable. Not every concept needs a massive list of examples. (Let alone 26 lists...) Sergecross73 msg me 00:23, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Correct. The spinoff is notable because its subject has been discussed as a group in reliable secondary sources. Thus, it is not a list of examples to support the main article, but a list that meets notability on its own. MOS provides no limit to the length of lists in Wikipedia, only recommendations on splitting lists as they increase in size. This is not really 26 lists, but a single list organized alphabetically. Thus, one AfD for all pages. Rublamb (talk) 03:52, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- You keep saying that, but I dont see where anyone has presented an NLIST-passing argument. Sergecross73 msg me 11:20, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- WP:NLIST says "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". Since there are numerous independent secondary sources that discuss "albums with hidden tracks", notability for a stand-alone list is met. Here are some of the sources currently used:
- Artsy, Avishay (September 18, 2014) "What happened to ‘hidden tracks’ on albums?". KCRW.
- Ferrell, Stephen (June 13, 2022). "Uncovering CDs' hidden tracks". Topeka & Shawnee County Public Library.
- McMahon Kevin McMahon and Len Comaratta , Brian Josephs, and Katherine Flynn (July 8, 2014). "20 Best Hidden Tracks on Albums". Consequence.
Potter, Jordan (June 14, 2022). "The 10 best hidden tracks on albums". Far Out Magazine.source is now depreciated Rublamb (talk) 23:21, 2 October 2025 (UTC)- Rogers, Judd (January 25, 2015) "Manna for fans: the history of the hidden track in music". The Guardian.
- Simpson, Dave (1999-01-05). "Hidden Tracks of our Tears". The Guardian. p.36. Retrieved 2025-09-24 via Newspapers.com.
- Stavropoulo, Laura (June 29, 2025). "Hidden Tracks: The Forgotten Relic Of The CD Era". UDiscoverMusic.
- (Sutherland, Scott (1999-04-01). "The Hidden Track: CD Gimmick Already a Worn Trick". The Miami Herald. (from The New York Times). p.307.
- Here are potential sources cited in the Hidden track article:
- Katz, Bob; Katz, Robert A. (2002). Mastering Audio: The Art and the Science. Focal Press. p. 93. ISBN 0-240-80545-3.
- Thompson, Dave (2002). The Music Lover's Guide to Record Collecting. Backbeat Books. pp.50–51. ISBN0-87930-713-7.
- Regarding the need for reliable sources for each item in the list, as required for a list article, I added some yesterday. Since the list consists of notable artists or notable recordings, it is easy to find sources. For example, many were reviewed in Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, Crack, Spin, Decibel, Revolver, The Source , Entertainment Weekly, Vibe, Clash, etc. Books such as Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time, Rolling Stone Encyclopedia of Rock & Roll, and New Rolling Stone Encyclopedia Of Rock & Roll can also provide many of the needed sources. Rublamb (talk) 15:31, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- WP:NLIST says "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". Since there are numerous independent secondary sources that discuss "albums with hidden tracks", notability for a stand-alone list is met. Here are some of the sources currently used:
- You keep saying that, but I dont see where anyone has presented an NLIST-passing argument. Sergecross73 msg me 11:20, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Correct. The spinoff is notable because its subject has been discussed as a group in reliable secondary sources. Thus, it is not a list of examples to support the main article, but a list that meets notability on its own. MOS provides no limit to the length of lists in Wikipedia, only recommendations on splitting lists as they increase in size. This is not really 26 lists, but a single list organized alphabetically. Thus, one AfD for all pages. Rublamb (talk) 03:52, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Being a spinoff of a notable concept doesn't inherently make this list notable. Not every concept needs a massive list of examples. (Let alone 26 lists...) Sergecross73 msg me 00:23, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete It's no longer 2008, we have long honed ourselves away from being a WP:NOTTVTROPES clone, the sourcing in each article is abysmal (and basically all lyrics sites or track catalogs) and the list is incredibly incorrect and incomplete. And as much as we can add all the criteria in the lede we want to discourage 'unnotable' artists, that is not what is going to happen at all in practice. Nathannah • 📮 22:44, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- I only verbalized the criteria that I found already in use. There were only a handful non-notable articles/recordings to remove, so that really is not an issue. Rublamb (talk) 03:39, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - spinout or not, the all-encompassing approach is information that falls under WP:NOTEVERYTHING. The sources mentioned do not support such an approach. Geschichte (talk) 07:38, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: all (Strong); per Rublamb; thanks for naming the sources. Sources presented clearly show the topic meets the requirements for notability of lists (their topic was addressed as a set in reliable sources). Concern expressed in the essay about "list cruft" do not apply; neither can one reasonably claim that the inclusion is indiscriminate (it does not correspond to any of the issues listed in the page about that policy). So that with the lists clearly being acceptable and no corresponding category existing, deletion does not seem necessary and would even be detritmental to the reader imv. -E-UX 14:44, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:NOTDB. I'm unconvinced by the sources offered above. What we have here is a random selection of clickbait listicles. These don't really help demonstrate notability. What we don't have here is anyone attempting to compile such a massive list of these things (and even if we did, I'd be pretty skeptical of trying to maintain our own version). There's a giant chasm in between covering the general phenomenon along with a few noteworthy examples, and maintaining a list of thousands of every single time someone happened to do this. There are major OR/verifiability problems with this as well, as evidenced by the state of the list. Most are unsourced, and those which do have sources, tend to be non-RS. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 03:56, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- First time I have ever heard someone accuse a public library of creating clickbait on their own website. And I guess The Guardian was ahead of their time, inventing clickbait in 1999, more than five years before the term even existed... Rublamb (talk) 11:43, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- I only looked at the first WP:THREE in detail. Finding them completely terrible, I didn't go over the others in as much detail. However, I see The Guardian sources are talking about the phenomenon generally; they could be fine in the general article, but not for a list. One of them even happens to list five prominent examples. That's doesn't justify a list like this either. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:20, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- The first three potential source provided above include a NPR station (written by a music historian), an online music magazine (established in 2007 and with an article in Wikipedia), and a public library. WP:EVALUATE and WP:FIND provide helpful instructions on how to evaluate the reliability of sources. Rublamb (talk) 19:51, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- I only looked at the first WP:THREE in detail. Finding them completely terrible, I didn't go over the others in as much detail. However, I see The Guardian sources are talking about the phenomenon generally; they could be fine in the general article, but not for a list. One of them even happens to list five prominent examples. That's doesn't justify a list like this either. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:20, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- First time I have ever heard someone accuse a public library of creating clickbait on their own website. And I guess The Guardian was ahead of their time, inventing clickbait in 1999, more than five years before the term even existed... Rublamb (talk) 11:43, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I thought the list itself was hidden, but realized its alphabetized. The existence of lists and some discussion is usually enough pass NLIST, even if they arent complete. This is rather large, and maybe could be pared down or consolidated, but I think it passes. Metallurgist (talk) 07:15, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep the main List of albums containing a hidden track but DELETE the alphabetized pages and merge their contents after major reductions. Sources clearly exist that list various hidden tracks,[10][11] which means a list article is merited. But a massive pruning must be done by tweaking the inclusion criteria, for instance by requiring a WP:SECONDARY source for each entry, which would guarantee that the particular hidden track was noticed by the media. The current excessive listings are a violation of WP:INDISCRIMINATE. A pared-down list makes more sense. Binksternet (talk) 20:24, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note that hiddensongs.com is not a reliable source per WP:USERG. Binksternet (talk) 06:34, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I have left the pre-existing citations for hiddensongs.com because it is not directly user created and users cannot edit the website. People may upload suggested additions and changes through an online form, but the website says "your submission will be reviewed by an editor before being added to the site". That being said, I have removed hiddensongs.com when a better source is found. Rublamb (talk) 00:21, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note that hiddensongs.com is not a reliable source per WP:USERG. Binksternet (talk) 06:34, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete mainly per the IP vote above. For me, the sources provided above demonstrate the notability of Hidden track and do not prove NLIST (I'm not persuaded by low quality "best hidden tracks of all time" type articles). There's nothing to stop a very limited merge of particularly notable hidden tracks into Hidden track. Failing this I would just fall on NOTDB and WP:IAR. This is a gratuitous and unnavigable list which is poorly sourced and subject to OR interpretations of what constitutes a hidden track. Vladimir.copic (talk) 23:54, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that reliable secondary sources are needed for each entry and have been working on it. That and any trimming falls under "can be improved". For WP:NLIST, the strongest source provided above is The New York Times piece, grabbed here from its reprint in the Miami Herald'' In addition to discussing the origin of hidden tracks, it includes several lists of hidden tracks, discussing them as a group. The Guardian's "Hidden Tracks" piece also includes a list of albums with hidden tracks. The public radio piece also provides a list. Even if you're not a fan of the other sources in the list, they supplement those three which are already enough for notability. Rublamb (talk) 16:47, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- As I said, to me these sources only demonstrate the notability of the wider topic. Both the Miami Herald/NYT and Guardian articles discuss the wider topic and use a few examples to do this. The sprawling lists we are talking about here look nothing like either of these two articles. A short list of notable examples at Hidden track seems entirely appropriate given that's how RS treat the topic. No RS (that I can find) however are dedicated to systematically cataloguing hidden tracks. Vladimir.copic (talk) 23:19, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that reliable secondary sources are needed for each entry and have been working on it. That and any trimming falls under "can be improved". For WP:NLIST, the strongest source provided above is The New York Times piece, grabbed here from its reprint in the Miami Herald'' In addition to discussing the origin of hidden tracks, it includes several lists of hidden tracks, discussing them as a group. The Guardian's "Hidden Tracks" piece also includes a list of albums with hidden tracks. The public radio piece also provides a list. Even if you're not a fan of the other sources in the list, they supplement those three which are already enough for notability. Rublamb (talk) 16:47, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NALBUM, no significant coverage in reliable sources. No obvious WP:ATD-R target since it's a collaboration with several artists. Mika1h (talk) 17:08, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Previous WP:PROD candidate, ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:23, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Delete: Pretty much the only mention of this album from a RS which I found doing a WP:BEFORE search was Blabbermouth, and that article is just an announcement of the album's then-upcoming release. This is clearly not enough information for a standalone article. Leafy46 (talk) 04:49, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
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I honestly don't see any indication of notability to permit for a standalone article here. The page has previously been deleted, but recreated recently. Yet no indication of notabilty that satifies WP:Album (An album requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence. That an album is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article.) For this reason, i'm sending this here for proper consensus. But again, per WP:Album (Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article..) Cameremote (talk) 02:32, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Music. Cameremote (talk) 02:32, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- I was not aware this was already a page previously, however, I’m not understanding the logic in this not meeting notability guidelines. It’s a posthumous release from one of the most notable country music artists in the history of the genre, and the album itself had more than extensive media coverage upon its release. It was featured in magazines such as the Rolling Stone & other sites as well, and as best I see everything seems pretty well in order as it’s sourced correctly and the info in the article is all there and correct. 162.246.155.6 (talk) 04:12, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- this reply above made by 162.246.155.6 was made by me, just wanted to clarify. I had believed I was logged in and I was not, sorry. Zacnascarguy 88 fan (talk) 04:14, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- I was not aware this was already a page previously, however, I’m not understanding the logic in this not meeting notability guidelines. It’s a posthumous release from one of the most notable country music artists in the history of the genre, and the album itself had more than extensive media coverage upon its release. It was featured in magazines such as the Rolling Stone & other sites as well, and as best I see everything seems pretty well in order as it’s sourced correctly and the info in the article is all there and correct. 162.246.155.6 (talk) 04:12, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fade258 (talk) 15:53, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: This review in Rolling Stone [12] and the MXDWN source should be enough for notability, unless MX isn't a RS. Oaktree b (talk) 18:03, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - There's not much to work with, but the Rolling Srone review helps support a stub article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:33, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - I agree based on the Rolling Stone review. — Maile (talk) 22:20, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Waylon Jennings albums discography. Notability guidelines state that multiple reliable sources discussing a subject are needed to establish notability. One review is not sufficient and I'm unsure if MXDWN is a reliable source or not. WP:NMUSIC and WP:NALBUM state "Notability aside, a standalone article is only appropriate when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged into the artist's article or discography". I don't think you can make a well-detailed article with one, or even two, sources. λ NegativeMP1 17:08, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Waylon Jennings albums discography Generally you cannot have an article based on just one or two RSes per WP:SIGCOV. Therefore, merging the notable content onto another article is the best way to go since the article is not notable enough for inclusion per WP:GNG. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 23:41, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Even if we assume notability is there, we still need to decide whether readers would benefit more from having a standalone article about the album or see the content in the broader context of the discography.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 11:59, 3 October 2025 (UTC) - Keep. The subject is notable, as @Oaktree b explained. The content would not be served fit by redirection to the albums discography page, as there is no content on that page bar rote release information. If the content were to be merged into the discography page, it would be an undue focus on that album specifically as all other albums have their own article. Katzrockso (talk) 23:13, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Rolling Stone’s article demonstrates there is enough WP:SIGCOV for a stub. Perhaps more sources can be welled up from there. MayhemStoppingBy (talk) 16:51, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
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