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[edit]- Yukon Freedom Party (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Now dissolved political party that never participated in an election, other than the first four references (which all solely reference the founding of the party, i.e. duplicative of one another), the remaining references are all just passing. Overall lacks WP:SIGCOV and fails WP:GNG. Epluribusunumyall (talk) 19:57, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - Ephemeral and not notable. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 21:14, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of political parties in Yukon. I'm not sure if it is dissolved, but it also doesn't meet the criteria at WP:ORGCRIT - there is really only 1 piece of WP:SIGCOV, the 2021 article about its foundation. Can be recreated if they get significant coverage in the future. Katzrockso (talk) 22:56, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ajax Mine (Canada) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The sole source cited in this article (an archived document from 2011) speaks of "a world class primary molybdenum property in the advanced stage of exploration" and gives various resource estimates, but it's clear that no mine had been opened at that time; and I can find no evidence on the Internet of any mining activity since then. This is rather reminiscent of an article I nominated for deletion three years ago, created by the same editor; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aranos mine. Deor (talk) 15:16, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Most sources refer to other "Ajax Mines" in Canada, some from 1916 Monkeysmashingkeyboards (talk) 17:42, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- There's apparently an Ajax Mine in British Columbia, with which, as the article's history indicates, this supposed mine in Newfoundland has been confused. I should have mentioned that in the nomination. Deor (talk) 18:29, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - the article's reference refers to two mines: the Ajax molybdenum mine in BC and the Molybrook mine in Newfoundland. The author started both articles within 5 minutes of each other and clearly got confused. Newfoundland's Moly Brook molybdenum deposits are clearly notable and maybe the mine, too. The Ajax Mine in B.C. is also notable. The fix is to rewrite this stub to one about the BC mine. I may do this in the next several days; if not, WP:TNT this article. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 19:24, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Neither deposit has been mined and ownership has changed hand several times. It looks like exploration is active at Ajax. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 19:38, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I can only find things about an Ajax mine in BC, nothing about this one, [1]. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 01:25, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
Comment: I would give A. B. a few days to get sources. Bearian (talk) 07:56, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Evan Beutler (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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While Beutler has several mentions in Erie Times-News articles, those are just routine passing mentions which do not establish WP:GNG. Example: [2] Raskuly (talk) 14:57, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: The article is notable because there are other secondary sources used, not just the Erie Times-News. For example, "Lipscomb signs Beutler" from The Enterprise Ledger does a feature piece. The second example is from the Dothan Eagles, "Ex-Enterprise star Beutler now a professional player", another feature piece. The third secondary source that covers the topic in depth is "Beutler signing Lipscomb's praises" from the Dothan Eagle. Shotgun pete (talk) 15:41, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- They all sound ROUTINE, with the exception of the second one. Not enough. GiantSnowman 11:17, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Not necessarily routine. The three sources are not just a paragraph-long announcement of a signing. In all three articles, he is the featured piece, and the articles go in-depth about him. Shotgun pete (talk) 14:46, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention this one, "Wiregrass' Best - Beutler, Howard honored as Dothan Eagle's best of 2011" from The Dothan Eagle, which does an interview piece with him. The four independent, reliable, secondary sources are a night and day difference from the routine mentions in the Erie Times-News. Shotgun pete (talk) 16:31, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Not necessarily routine. The three sources are not just a paragraph-long announcement of a signing. In all three articles, he is the featured piece, and the articles go in-depth about him. Shotgun pete (talk) 14:46, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- They all sound ROUTINE, with the exception of the second one. Not enough. GiantSnowman 11:17, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:17, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Canadian Libraries (collection) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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How is this list notable (WP:NLIST)? Sourced just to Internat Archive. IA is a great initiative, but not all aspects of it are notable. I fear this is true for most if not all entries in Category:Internet Archive collections. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:14, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - The sources are primary, no evidence anyone is writing about this collection as a thing in itself and Wikipedia is not a catalogue. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 06:39, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, I can't find any sourcing, but I'd admit it's a very hard term to search for. If sourcing can be found, it could be handled better as a subheading in Internet_Archive#Media collections. We certainly aren't here to list projects' sponsors. Elemimele (talk) 09:20, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - Wikipedia should retain this somewhere but not as an article. It's not notable but it is a research resource akin to the Wikipedia Library. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 14:03, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Previous AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Canadian Libraries. It was kept. Pinging previous participants: @Margin1522, @SuperHamster, @Northamerica1000, @Fgnievinski. DGG, the primary advocate for keeping the article, has since died. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 14:15, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging @Joe Decker, the closing admin. Unfortunately, some of these editors, such as Joe, are no longer active. A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 14:27, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Internet_Archive#Media collections, as the title has survived for so long. fgnievinski (talk) 14:22, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I have left notes about this AfD at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Libraries and Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Library. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 14:44, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- yes, that redirect target is a good alternative. I'm sympathetic to the thinking behind the last AfD, but we have to remember Wikipedia is not a campaign platform, even for principles of open access information that are close to our hearts. Redirecting would allow readers to find what they need. Elemimele (talk) 12:13, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't realize that AfD was me, ten years ago! =) fgnievinski (talk) 14:35, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- List of largest Canada-based law firms by revenue (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I closed a bundled AfD containing 12 lists as they weren't similar enough and created an AfD for each. In general, these lists aren't individually notable. Specifically, I counted that ten of these 12 lists are wholly attributed to only one (or sometimes two) sources, which of course doesn't meet WP:NLIST. They are all relatively short and variously formatted. FaviFake (talk) 16:03, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: The lists don't really seem up to date, 2023? the first one starts N/A, so why is it in the list it's not applicable? Too many errors/strange decisions made, not really any indication why this list is notable. Oaktree b (talk) 17:46, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Here's what establishes notability for a list article per WP:NLIST:
- The topic of the list must be notable.
- List items (I'm paraphrasing):
- Individual entries must be properly cited to reliable sources per WP:RS if not notable themselves, OR
- Individual entries must have links to their own articles
- This list is cited to reliable sources. List is bounded to notable firms only, all of which have articles. Any other issues involve cleanup, not deletion -- WP:DINC.--A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 01:15, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
* Speedy keep: Merge currently being discussed--> List of law firms. This could pass for disruptive. e.ux 08:42, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- No, the merger isn't "currently being discussed". FaviFake (talk) 14:18, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes it was. e.ux 16:28, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- No, the merger isn't "currently being discussed". FaviFake (talk) 14:18, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Leaning keep and recommend to rename it to List of law firms of Canada so it can serve navigation list purpose. Jbzomer (talk) 14:06, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Merna (artist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NMUSIC. Lacking significant coverage of this musician. I can't find anything to support the claim that she is a Grammy nominated artist. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 16:27, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep (but clean up significantly) - I too can find no confirmation that she was nominated for a Grammy, not even in the Grammy site's own databases. It is possible that she was a co-songwriter on someone else's song that was nominated, but that does not make her a nominee herself. Also, the article needs to be cleaned up to remove desperate weasel words like "signaling deep cultural resonance and cementing her place on the global stage." The title should probably also be moved to Merna (singer) and there is more confusion because she previously worked under the name Ayah. With all that being said, she does have some mainstream and reliable coverage in Exclaim (already cited) plus these: [3], [4], [5]. There may be enough for a basic stub article without all the desperate promotion. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:45, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for you feedback have made some updates per your commentary. Bishl (talk) 19:21, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Merna Bishouty is credited as a songwriter on the track “What a Pity” from Cory Henry’s album Operation Funk (2022).[1] Operation Funk was nominated for the Grammy Award for Best Progressive R&B Album in the 65th Annual Grammy Awards. [2][3] Because of her contribution as a credited songwriter, Merna Bishouty is a Grammy‑nominated songwriter for her involvement in this album.
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- References
- 1. Operation Funk album credits — AllMusic.
- 2. Grammy: Cory Henry artist page.
- 3. 65th Annual Grammy Awards (2022) — list of nominees.
- https://www.allmusic.com/album/operation-funk-mw0003864315
- https://grammy.com/artists/cory-henry/17906
- https://grammy.com/awards/65th-annual-grammy-awards-2022
- Also acknowledged on Concord Music Publishing official website: https://concord.com/publishing-roster/merna/Bishl (talk) Bishl (talk) 19:15, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- No matter how hard she tries to promote herself in this fashion, she is not "Grammy-nominated" under any standard definition. Cory Henry's album is what was actually nominated, and she has a connection to it. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:59, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Album Of The Year Category: Nominee And Recipient Eligibility
- Moving forward, all credited artists (including featured artists), songwriters of new material, producers, recording engineers, mixers, and mastering engineers are eligible to be GRAMMY nominees and recipients in the Album Of The Year category.
- https://grammy.com/news/2022-grammys-updated-rules-guidelines-recording-academy
- So in fact, Merna is a Grammy nominated songwriter for her contribution to Cory Henry’s Operation Funk. Bishl (talk) 21:53, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- But she is not listed as a nominee at the official Grammy site, which I interpret to mean that the organization allows people to promote themselves as nominees in an unofficial way but with no lasting recognition. In any case, Merna has over-promoted herself as a Grammy nominee which gives an inaccurate impression of her supposed achievements when all she did was co-write one song on an album that received the actual nomination. If Cory Henry's album had won, Merna would probably not have a statuette for her living room. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:16, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- No matter how hard she tries to promote herself in this fashion, she is not "Grammy-nominated" under any standard definition. Cory Henry's album is what was actually nominated, and she has a connection to it. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:59, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Article needs significant cleanup - but the subject does appear to meet WP:MUSICBIO. Further to the sources already identified, there's an album review accessed via the Wikipedia Library here and a (short) staff biography on Allmusic here. ResonantDistortion 11:48, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- @ResonantDistortion. Can you point out which criteria the subject meets? Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 19:38, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself
. ResonantDistortion 21:49, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- @ResonantDistortion. Can you point out which criteria the subject meets? Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 19:38, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - moved to Merna (singer) Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 19:37, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sam Malin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Since the last AfD he has been interviewed for his purchase of Burke's Peerage (which this article seems to dispute with OR?), but I don't see any new coverage that would satisfy GNG. AtD could be a redirect to his spouse Irène Major. REAL_MOUSE_IRL talk 09:26, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Agree with nom; the limited sources are either brief mentions and/or only seem to talk about Malin in the context/shadow of his wife. Tatler's okay (even if it does miscapitalize August), but that's one source. As a rule, I oppose all redirects from living people's names to other people without a very good reason. (On that front, the article itself is doing a lot of OR about a living person and should be TNT-ed on its face.) GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 09:51, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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Delete: Wikipedia is not inheritance. fails wp:gng Delete4ever (talk) 11:23, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Sock strike. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:33, 4 October 2025 (UTC)- Delete: Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 02:55, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Conversation Tree Press (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No reliable sigcov found after a search. Quite recently established. For a publisher, there are not even passing mentions in RS of books they've published, which even the least notable publishers tend to get. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:48, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Apologies if I'm not responding appropriately, this is my first response to an AfD (and I'm not familiar with all the jargon).
- This is a newer small private publisher of limited editions, but has received some attention, including an article about their Peter Pan edition in Fine Books & Collections [6], a 2025 Alcuin Society award [7], announcement of an upcoming release at Tripwire magazine [8] as well as some other blogs (e.g., Ubiquitous Books [9], Collectible Book Vault [10]). I'm not familiar with RS but do see regular mentions in other user communities like r/BookCollecting (and a few others on Reddit) and regular threads in the LibraryThing forums (e.g., [11]). Furthermore, this is considered one of a handful of modern "collectible presses" tracked by Collectible Book Vault [12], like Centipede Press and Subterranean Press and a few others (though newer). Egosumliber (talk) 14:39, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Knowing what sourcing that does and doesn't constitute notability can be confusing at first. Release announcements and product placements do not help notability for Wikipedia's purposes. For that, we need multiple reliable sources that give them significant coverage. I do not think the Collectible Book Vault would be a WP:Reliable source per Wikipedia's standards. Things like established newspapers, magazines, books, etc, would, but not WP:User generated websites like Reddit or Librarything or wordpress blogs. And for a source to count for notability it has to be significant in the amount of coverage it gives to the subject (e.g. a few hundred words at minimum) and independent of the subject (so not their own website or blog). So a type of coverage that would help notability would be a newspaper article going over the company's origins and history or business or something, but not "upcoming product".
- Centipede Press and Subterranean Press also don't have great sourcing in their articles, so assuming that is all there is (there could be more for those, I haven't checked) I don't think they would be notable either. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:32, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'll add that is often quite hard for companies to meet the criteria for articles, and particularly so for publishing companies, since they have to meet the criteria at WP:NORG (specifically see WP:SIRS). Frankly, people don't often write that kind of thing about a publisher unless they're Penguin Books. The focus is usually on the books themselves (like the Peter Pan edition you mentioned -- or the Alcuin Society award, which was given to a specific edition), and only after a lot of time has passed do historians show up and start analyzing the effect of the specific books/people involved with a publisher. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 20:42, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete After some searching, I haven't been able to turn up any suitably independent coverage. It strikes me as plausible that someone would one day write about them in the context of letterpress/deluxe printing in the Digital Age, but no sign that this has yet occurred. The books are gorgeous, so it was a pleasant hunt, but they don't appear to meet WP:NORG at this time. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 20:53, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Trapdoor (company) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to have no standalone notability (fails WP:CORPDEPTH) and was created by an WP:SPA editor. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:33, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge to Warp (2012 video game), looks to be main product. IgelRM (talk) 19:32, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Warp. The sources in this item don't give significant coverage of the company itself, so on a corporate level I see no specified notability, given that most game companies are not notable. ChrysGalley (talk) 19:35, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Kensington Sound (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Probably fails WP:GNG A1Cafel (talk) 10:39, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
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CommentNot a lot of hits in World Radio History. Recording Engineer 1979-12 p109 has a few sentences in a roundup of studio news. Various issues of Canadian Musician mention albums being recorded there, but I didn't see any in-depth coverage. (If you're searching for this, add a date range limit because there was also an unrelated Kensington Sound Service in the 1940s that comes up in similar sources...) Adam Sampson (talk) 13:13, 1 October 2025 (UTC)- Keep per Lovelyfurball's sources - looks good to me. Adam Sampson (talk) 15:43, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per the in depth coverage from The Toronto Star and CBC. These sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. The article from The Star especially goes into depth about the studio's history, although it does focus a bit on its founder. Lovelyfurball (talk) 22:57, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, given the Toronto Star and CBC stories, giving GNG and WP:SIRS if going down the organisational route. Being around for 50 years should give WP:SUSTAINED but that's not giving sigcov from the first 10 or so search items. ChrysGalley (talk) 19:31, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- List of IATSE locals (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This list seems to be functioning as a web page directory, not as an encyclopedic list with a certain amount of notability. This duplicates the list on the union's web site, which seems like a more appropriate place for readers to go to find this information. -- Beland (talk) 23:17, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. This is a list split out from the main IATSE article as the list of locals would be overly large for the article. And a list of locals is no different than any other list of subsidiary structures found all around Wikipedia. oknazevad (talk) 23:37, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Clear case of WP:NOTDIR and also doesn't satisfy WP:NLIST either. Ajf773 (talk) 02:50, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The topic is notable, and could be included with the main article but for its size. The main reason given for deletion is also invalid: NOTDIR does not describe this kind of list, but random information with no particular reason to appear together in an encyclopedia, giving five specific instances, none of which describe the contents here: this is not a 1) a simple list without context (context is provided); 2) a collection of loosely-associated topics (these all belong to a single topic); 3) a non-encyclopedic cross-categorization (not a cross-categorization, since they all belong to a single category); 4) a list of genealogical entries (not genealogical); 4) an electronic program guide (not a program guide); or 5) a resource for conducting business (it's not comercially-related, and provides no information about products or pricing). P Aculeius (talk) 18:56, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think you missed the beginning of WP:NOT:
Emphasis mine. This is very much in the spirit of what's addressed here, even if it not specifically listed as an example. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 19:39, 1 October 2025 (UTC)Although there are debates about the encyclopedic merits of several classes of entries, consensus is that the following are good examples of what Wikipedia is not. The examples under each section are not exhaustive.
- But NOTDIR is being cited, and NOTDIR doesn't have anything remotely applicable. You can't just claim that a policy applies because it sounds to you like it ought to apply. It almost sounds like you're citing WP:INDISCRIMINATE, another policy that's constantly cited without any obvious correlation between anything said under it and the thing they're upset about being included in Wikipedia. But there is nothing indiscriminate about a list of chapters of a notable organization. That's the opposite of indiscriminate. If NOTDIR meant "lists of sub-units of something notable", surely that would be the very first thing mentioned. The fact that nothing of the sort is mentioned at all under NOTDIR speaks volumes. P Aculeius (talk) 22:19, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- NOTDIR says:
That sounds to me like it very much does apply. As mentioned, the examples following that preamble are not exhaustive, and cannot possibly cover every conceivable case. This is a mere directory listing of over 250 local chapters of a particular union. Maintaining such a list is outside Wikipedia's scope. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 07:21, 2 October 2025 (UTC)Wikipedia encompasses many lists of links to articles within Wikipedia that are used for internal organization or to describe a notable subject. In that sense, Wikipedia functions as an index or directory of its own content. However, Wikipedia is not a directory of everything in the universe that exists or has existed.
- NOTDIR says:
- But NOTDIR is being cited, and NOTDIR doesn't have anything remotely applicable. You can't just claim that a policy applies because it sounds to you like it ought to apply. It almost sounds like you're citing WP:INDISCRIMINATE, another policy that's constantly cited without any obvious correlation between anything said under it and the thing they're upset about being included in Wikipedia. But there is nothing indiscriminate about a list of chapters of a notable organization. That's the opposite of indiscriminate. If NOTDIR meant "lists of sub-units of something notable", surely that would be the very first thing mentioned. The fact that nothing of the sort is mentioned at all under NOTDIR speaks volumes. P Aculeius (talk) 22:19, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think you missed the beginning of WP:NOT:
- Delete. Very very clear case of the sort of thing that WP:NOTDIR is meant to address. See also this essay for a bit of context on the phenomenon of how this sort of list comes about to be. It didn't belong in the main article, and it doesn't belong in a standalone list either. Kill it now. Kill it with fire. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 19:39, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Waterloo Aerial Robotics Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of notability. None of the sourcing is secondary or independent, and I'm unable to find any GNG-level sourcing online, only sources from the school or trivial mentions. 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 20:34, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
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- @Wasianpower: How would I prevent the article from being deleted? Do I just need to add more third-party sources? Thanks! Yelir 314 (talk) Yelir314 Yelir 314 (talk) 00:28, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Replied on your talk page. 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep.
- Reason for keeping: This is a page that is dedicated towards a design team that is based in Waterloo. The sources that were listed were from the documentation of the organization itself. Additionally, the article is meant to spread awareness about the organization, and is meant to be informative about the organization. Yelir 314 (talk) 14:38, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yelir 314, Wikipedia has specific criteria for inclusion that are unique to our mission as an encyclopedia. We're not here for publicity -- take a look at one of our core policies: "What Wikipedia is not", in particular the section "Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion". To get an article here, this organization has to meet the high bar of our Notability (organizations and companies) guideline using references that meet our Reliable sources guideline. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 15:44, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
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Doesn't meet WP:NPLACE / WP:GNG Boleyn (talk) 19:07, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
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Promotional article about a non notable musician. Fails GNG and NMUSIC. Thilsebatti (talk) 03:55, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
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- This is 100% not promotional content as it is written in the same format as other wikipedia articles about playback singers -- ie general intro, Biography, songs released. The articles cited to are highly reputed and include features in publications like "The Hindu" - which is one of the largest newspapers in India.
- Abby V is a very notable musician in the Indian music scene with a huge fan following. He recently sold out a NJ just yesterday. The playback songs he has done are for some of the biggest movies in India. Indian 2 starred Kamal Hasaan who has been in over 230 Indian films and is a politician in India. The latest track of Abby's is for the prequel to Kantara (2022) - a movie that had grossed 450K crore Indian rupees worldwide. Abby V's Instagram as of today shows he has 494K+ Followers. Roopa521 (talk) 04:32, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- I would also suggest that those considering to delete this wiki page read all the articles that are cited to. Roopa521 (talk) 04:36, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- One other point to be considered is that the latest track, "Brahmakalasha" (Kannada) from Kantara Chapter 1 has already gained 871K views as of now (Sept 29, 12:42 AM) after 1 day of the release. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9HCH2xKSJc Kantara Chapter 1, the prequel to Kantara (2022) is a movie produced by Hombale Films, which has become one of the most successful production houses for Kannada cinema. To get at track in their films in and of itself proves a singer's notability. For example, Kantara Chapter 1 will also have Diljit Dosanjh sing and he is an Emmy Nominee. Roopa521 (talk) 04:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Also, in case it helps to know, the Juno Awards for which Abby's album got nominated is actually a major body. The Awards, referred to as the Junos, are awards presented by the Canadian Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences to recognize outstanding achievements in Canada's music industry. It's like the Grammys but in Canada. :-) Hope these additional points help. Thanks again for all your effort in evaluating this article for Wiki! Roopa521 (talk) 04:58, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Hi Roopa521, from a quick google search, I could barely find any reliable independent sources about Abby V. I also realized you didn't use the citation tool to create the citations probably used the basic citation where you just pasted the links because I believe the citation tool would actually reject some of those links. So the subject lacks adequate media cover about him as a person. MichealKal (talk) 05:50, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi! When I did a search my end (I typed in "Abby V") I could see articles immediately on the first page onward about him in prestigious Indian papers like Hindustan Times, Indian Express, and significantly on The Hindu. These are papers that are reputed newspapers with readership worldwide. They are all 3 major Indian publications where within the Indian community it automatically indicates notability. It is hard to get any article or feature on The Hindu unless someone is reputed and this publication has actually featured him 3 times. Most other India singers etc. who have wikipedia pages have also referenced sites like The Hindu and have been published pages.
- Please see links below for what I saw from reputed sites in my search page by page on Google. Please note, I have not listed any random sites that feature him only the papers that are considered reputed:
- page 1 of google search
- Hindustan Times: https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/music/exclusive-indian-origin-canadian-singer-abby-v-opens-up-on-how-america-is-embracing-south-asian-music-101699426952455.html
- Interview for The Hindu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhRmbKYr6Lo&themeRefresh=1
- page 2 of google search
- Article on The Hindu: https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/singing-for-indian-2-how-singer-abby-v-got-his-big-breakthrough/article68249806.ece
- Lakshmi Anand: https://lakshmianand.com/music/musicians/abbyv/
- page 3 of google search
- Another article on The Hindu: https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/music/abby-v-about-his-concept-of-ragas-music-and-gurus/article35743190.ece
- Samskriti is a major music organization (for Carnatic South Indian music) who also featured him: https://www.samskriti.com/abbyv.html
- page 4
- High On Score Magazine: https://highonscore.com/strings-and-stories-abby-vs-musical-journey-unraveled-score-short-reads/
- Indulge Magazine (this is a subset of another major Indian publication Indian Express): https://indulgexpress.com/culture/music/2025/Sep/26/natasha-trikha-opens-for-badshah-in-chicago-releases-new-single-iraade
- Hope the above helps! Roopa521 (talk) 17:44, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
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- Are any of these okay to cite for his song "Brahmakalasha" from Kantara Chapter 1 to prove his notability:
- "Blockbuster 1st Single Song from Kantara Chapter1 Celebrates Devotion" -- https://english.tupaki.com/entertainment/kantara-chapter-1-first-song-brahma-kalasha-1450342
- https://www.cinemaexpress.com/kannada/interviews/2025/Sep/29/ajaneesh-loknath-kantara-chapter-1-fuses-carnatic-music-with-tribal-rhythms
- https://bollyspice.com/first-song-brahmakalasha-from-kantara-a-legend-chapter-1-is-out-now/
- https://www.ottplay.com/news/kantara-chapter-1-single-brahmakalasha-out-fans-call-it-slow-poison-that-introduces-to-the-divine-world-of-rishab-shettys-mythical-actioner/ec22274589230 Roopa521 (talk) 02:09, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: The sources used are all interviews or items where the subject talks about things they've done. Nothing independent of the subject found. That's all PROMO, nothing we can use for notability. Nothing found in Canadian media either. Oaktree b (talk) 20:10, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- JUNO Awards 2025 is a Canadian award show which is the equivalent of US' Grammy Awards. His album was nominated for that.
- One of his album's was with Grammy Winner Ricky Kej - https://www.freepressjournal.in/lifestyle/new-album-from-canadian-singer-abby-v-and-grammy-winner-ricky-kej-makes-indian-classical-relatable -- also a write up in -- https://www.radioandmusic.com/entertainment/editorial/news/231009-vocal-sensation-abby-v-and-grammy-award -- https://www.radioandmusic.com/entertainment/editorial/news/231009-vocal-sensation-abby-v-and-grammy-award
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- BBC has interviewed him - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000x07h
- Aarambh album was done with other popular notable Indian singers - KS Chithra, Jonita Gandhi, Benny Dayal, Sona Mohapatra, Pratibha Singh Baghel, Sivaangi, Antara Nandi, + Asad Khan. - https://www.music-news.com/news/Underground/167507/Abby-V-and-Ricky-Kej-meld-Indian-classical-music-and-modern-sounds-on-AARAMBH --> These are all equally famous singers as he is and the first 3 also have approved wiki pages
- Another 2 articles in Times of India - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/music/carnatic-ragas-have-so-much-versatility-abby-v/articleshow/74243055.cms
- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/music/abby-v-and-antara-nandy-explore-classical-music-through-a-capella/articleshow/79684462.cms
- UK's Eastern Eye magazine (It is UK's leading Asian magazine) had done a feature - https://www.easterneye.biz/ricky-kej-abby-v-arambh-interview/
- Roopa521 (talk) 21:41, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- TEDx Talk by Abby V - https://www.ted.com/talks/abby_v_ragas_retrograd Roopa521 (talk) 21:42, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Canadian publication re: JUNO nom - https://exclaim.ca/music/article/here-are-the-2025-juno-awards-nominees Roopa521 (talk) 21:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Indian Express article re album w/Grammy Winner - https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/music/music-this-week-ricky-kej-and-abby-vs-spirited-beginning-aarambh-9054397/ Roopa521 (talk) 21:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Here's press on the track he sang for:
- https://www.cinemaexpress.com/kannada/interviews/2025/Sep/29/ajaneesh-loknath-kantara-chapter-1-fuses-carnatic-music-with-tribal-rhythms
- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/entertainment/music/kannada/kantara-a-legend-chapter-1-kannada-song-brahmakalsha-audio/videoshow/124195257.cms
- Kantara as a film is essentially popular on the level of Star Wars. Kantara (2022) was a blockbuster and Kantara Chapter 1 is the prequel to it, and features Abby as a playback singer for the lead track "Brahmakalsha".
- Hope this info helps and thank you to all the reviewers for your guidance with all this!! Roopa521 (talk) 21:49, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- The Juno nomination would be notable, but we have no sources for it. The rest are as explained. Oaktree b (talk) 13:44, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- He's listed on their page --> https://junoawards.ca/nominees/ Roopa521 (talk) 17:12, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- He will be listed under "Global Music Album of the Year" (category) "Abby V" (his name) "Aarambh" (album title) Roopa521 (talk) 17:15, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- For some reason I thought I had added a link there, but guess I missed it. Thanks again for all your help! Roopa521 (talk) 17:19, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- He will be listed under "Global Music Album of the Year" (category) "Abby V" (his name) "Aarambh" (album title) Roopa521 (talk) 17:15, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- He's listed on their page --> https://junoawards.ca/nominees/ Roopa521 (talk) 17:12, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Quick update - the song Abby V sang for Kantara Chapter 1 "Brahmakalsha" (Kannada) has now crossed 1.2 Million views on YouTube in 3 days of release. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9HCH2xKSJc&list=RDB9HCH2xKSJc&start_radio=1
- In the Indian community, it really is considered a huge deal to be selected as a singer for Kantara prequel due to the blockbuster status of the first movie. Roopa521 (talk) 03:43, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- The Juno nomination would be notable, but we have no sources for it. The rest are as explained. Oaktree b (talk) 13:44, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi! Is the page approved to keep up since he is considered notable based on the JUNO nomination? If so, do I delete the notice on top of the Abby V Wiki page? Thank you for any guidance and advice with what the next steps to take are. Roopa521 (talk) 17:37, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as passes WP:NMUSIC criteria 8 has been nominated for a major music award in this case a Juno Award as confirmed in reliable sources. Has coverage in the Hindu, BBC, Eastern Eye, referenced in the article, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:17, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you @Atlantic306 Roopa521 (talk) 04:18, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- 10/4/2025 Update - The movie "Kantara: Chapter 1" for which Abby V sang the lead track has crossed 100 crore (11,265,815.80 USD) in box office collections in just 2 days. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/box-office/kantara-chapter-1-box-office-collection-day-2-rishab-shetty-starrer-roars-loud-surpasses-rs-100-crore-in-india/articleshow/124300463.cms Roopa521 (talk) 04:17, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Svartner (talk) 14:50, 6 October 2025 (UTC)- In short -- Abby V is notable due to his status as a playback singer, projects he has worked on (album with a grammy winner, JUNO nom, singing for Kantara) and his coverage in leading papers.
- He has had press coverage in leading Indian papers like The Hindu, Hindustan Times, Indian Express, New Indian Express
- Has been interviewed by international media like BBC
- Nominated for a JUNO Award (Canada's equivalent of the Grammys)
- Abby V’s album Aarambh was a collaboration with Grammy winner Ricky Kej. This album was nominated for a JUNO [1] He will be listed under "Global Music Album of the Year" (category) "Abby V" (his name) "Aarambh" (album title)
- He is a playback singer who sang 'Neelorpam' for Indian 2 (Starring superstar Kamal Haasan).
- Most significantly, he sang the lead track 'Brahmakalasha' from Kantara: Chapter 1 [2][3]
- It's a huge deal to be part of Kantara franchise. Kantara Chapter 1 released just 4 days back and crossed 325 crore INR in its opening weekend. [4]
- Instagram following is 450K
- Roopa521 (talk) 19:35, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- In short -- Abby V is notable due to his status as a playback singer, projects he has worked on (album with a grammy winner, JUNO nom, singing for Kantara) and his coverage in leading papers.
- Right to Read inquiry report (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The actual report here that is the subject of the article fails N. There is lots of good writing here that might be able to be repurposed elsewhere across the project, but this draws too heavily on conclusions to on primary work put together (i.e.: WP:SYNTH) or touches tangentially on the subject but overall fails the GNG. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 20:16, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Setting any perceived notability to one side, this article is a mishmash of WP:SYNTH interspersed with recording what some of the sources say. We can't have WP:OR and WP:NPOV. The nom is clear on this. I feel it also is in the territory of WP:SOAPBOX, the more so since educational topics are emotion triggers. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 21:46, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. It also warrants note that this was submitted to WP:AFC several times, and was declined each time for not meeting Wikipedia standards of content organization and referencing, before being arbitrarily moved into mainspace by its own creator, which is not proper wikiprocess. Bearcat (talk) 15:28, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I mean, it's not not allowed but most of the time the reviewers at AfC get it right and prevent difficult discussions like this. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 15:30, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Thank you for your comments. As the author of this article, it comes as no surprise that I think it should be kept. I made changes in response to the suggestions of other editors. I also made notes on the talk page and appealed directly to the previous editor, asking them to review my changes and provide me with feedback. When I received no reply and weeks had passed, I decided to move it to the main space. I was trying to be respectful of the process, but I also feel that an editor should revisit an article after having declined it to see if the issue had been resolved. I am always respectful of my fellow Wikipedians.
The Right to Read inquiry report is similar to two other articles. One of them is "Teaching Children to Read," by the National Reading Panel in the United States (2000), which is a well-known report on literacy instruction that was well-received by President George W. Bush and used to craft the federal literacy policy. The other report is the Independent review of the teaching of early reading (Rose Report 2006), which had a significant impact on the manner in which reading is taught in England.
The Right to Read inquiry report was the result of the work of two recognized Canadian authorities in the areas of reading disabilities and reading instruction. It is notable because the Government of Ontario, Canada, responded to the report by making significant changes to the way children are taught to read in Ontario. It has also received positive reviews from experienced Canadian educators; please see the "Reception" section.
I am passionate about Wikipedia's mission to provide free, evidence-based information and have been an active contributor since 2011, with nearly 3,000 edits. I am more than willing to make changes to the article based on constructive feedback.
I forgot to sign off properly. John NH (talk) 21:54, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - 89 references? Some articles in academic journals explicitly, extensively, and significantly about the report? I'd like to see a review of the sources :). I looked at a single one of those - a 16-page article in Education Sciences - it's an excellent reference. I also did my own search of academic journals, and here's another one in the Journal of Learning and Teaching that's 20-pages long and all about the report. Could the article be improved? Yes. Is that grounds for deletion? No. Do I know why we are even here? No. Nfitz (talk) 04:08, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 12:10, 3 October 2025 (UTC) - Keep. The subject most definitely meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. The quickest WP:BEFORE search finds that it has been covered academically here [13] [14] and in media coverage [15]. There is no other WP:DEL-REASON presented here, so many of the arguments appear to simply be WP:DINC/WP:PROBLEM. Katzrockso (talk) 20:08, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
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- ^ https://junoawards.ca/nominees
- ^ https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment-news/kannada/kantara-chapter-1-singer-abby-v-expresses-gratitude-to-makers-of-rishab-shettys-masterpiece-film-article-152935309
- ^ https://www.newindianexpress.com/amp/story/entertainment/kannada/2025/Oct/06/kannadanews2025oct06abby-v-kannada-is-close-to-my-heart
- ^ https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/others/kantara-chapter-1-worldwide-box-office-collection-day-4-rishab-shetty-film-earns-300-crore-beats-kgf-chapter-1-hanuman-101759721591709.html#google_vignette