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[edit]- Nominator(s): Chchcheckit (talk) 12:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because... 1. to finish work on a Ken Carson studio albums good topic, and 2. I think I've got everything down? Not sure if I need to include his production work (honestly I don't know where information on that is rn) or would have to put that in a separate page.
Either way. Ty.// Chchcheckit (talk) 12:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
|+ caption_text
as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead.Done // Chchcheckit (talk) 11:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- The scope for the "Peak chart positions" in all the tables should be "colgroup" since it spans multiple header cells.
Done // Chchcheckit (talk) 11:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- A lead image would be nice. (please
mention me on reply) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 13:03, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 done all but lead image, which I don't have; would his signature work instead? // Chchcheckit (talk) 11:56, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Lead image: Never mind, don't add his signature.
- I see that you noticed (and corrected) the missing table captions.
- Support on table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:13, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 done all but lead image, which I don't have; would his signature work instead? // Chchcheckit (talk) 11:56, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Staraction
[edit]In 2019, he signed to Playboi Carti's record label Opium and the following year released two EPs, Boy Barbie and Teen X, the latter which spawned his first hit single "Yale".
This feels a little bit runny to me. Consider instead:In 2019, he signed to Playboi Carti's record label, Opium. The following year, he released two EPs, Boy Barbie and Teen X. The latter spawned his first hit single, "Yale".
Following the release of the Teen X: Relapsed EP earlier that year,
This doesn't make sense timeline-wise for me. The previous sentence refers to him releasing two EPs in 2020, neither of which are Teen X: Relapsed. Maybe add some more clarification here? I'm assuming you mean 2021, based on what's said later, but reading it is a little confusing.- I understand there are not many free images of Carson to work with. Perhaps add an image of one of the artists he worked with under "Guest appearances", such as Young Thug?
Thanks for your work! Providing a courtesy ping for @Chchcheckit. (please ping on reply) Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:41, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- A quick skim reveals some similar articles that include production work. See Nas discography for an example. I've noticed some articles split discography and production into two different articles as well; see Kanye West discography. I think the article title may need to change if you intend to split these into two pages. At the very least, I think you should track down an RS that describes some of his production work. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:52, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): PresN 21:50, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
Hey everyone, mammal list #62 in our perpetual series and rodent list #7: Erethizontidae. We continue here covering the Caviomorpha parvorder, aka "things shaped kinda like guinea pigs", which... these aren't at all! These are pretty clearly all spiky rat-squirrels, aka porcupines; one in North America and the other 17 species in Mexico and South America. Oddly, this family is not closely related to the Hystricidae (Africa/Asian porcupines) at all; they took two different evolutionary routes to figure out stabbing predators with spines. As always, the list reflects the scientific consensus as well as the results of prior FLCs. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 21:50, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments by Easternsahara
[edit]- Support so this gets promoted quickly and we don't fall behind FAC in our promotion rate (humor). Although seriously, I think it is good. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 04:44, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Dantheanimator
[edit]Thought I'd add a few small things I saw:
- "are called erethizontids or New World porcupines" --> maybe link New World?
- "No erethizontids have population estimates" --> is there any particular reason (maybe because they're not endangered or populate inaccessible biomes or something else)?
That's all I got and good work as always. Hope these suggestions help and curious how this'll turn out as a featured topic when they're all done. Dan the Animator 00:34, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator: Linked, and no idea- the IUCN doesn't really say why there isn't data when they don't have it, but my impression is that it's actually pretty difficult to come up with an accurate population estimate, so researchers generally only bother for big, popular mammals or else if there's a reason that it could maybe help justify making an area protected- like if you know that there's only 50,000 of some species, then you could argue that even if the population is stable now that opening up a forest to logging could wipe them out because the population isn't big enough to absorb the population shock even if they don't lose all their habitat. But that's speculation based on what mammals I've seen have them over the years. --PresN 00:51, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Interesting and fair enough. Maybe one of the erethizontidae will get some more popularity and attention one of these days (would make for an interesting character in a children show I think). Support promotion and great work again. Dan the Animator 01:23, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments by Bgsu98 (10/7/25)
[edit]- You might choose to wikilink porcupine in the lead, or else expand New World porcupines.
- Recommend wikilinking or otherwise explaining "prehensile" – that is not a term the average reader will know.
- No issues or suggestions with regards to the table.
User:PresN: I will go ahead and support this now. I will also do the source review for you. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:43, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Done and done! --PresN 18:05, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Source review (10/7/25)
[edit]- Random spot-check of sources reveals no problems. Source review passed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:47, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments by ChrisTheDude
[edit]- Support - nothing to pick up on -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:33, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments by Reconrabbit
[edit]I was wondering when this one would come up. I'll provide my comments and image review. -- Reconrabbit 16:13, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Could use unabbreviated units (abbr=off) for the first instance of the convert template (Paraguaian hairy dwarf porcupine, at 24 cm (9 in)...)
- Could, but I think these are universally known so I'd rather keep it as-is
Genera is linked twice under Classification
- Fixed
Are "blossoms" (diet of Coendou) equivalent to "flowers" (diet of Erethizon)?
- Yes, changed to flowers
- The order of food items (specifically 'stems') is also different between the genera.
- Yes, I'm roughly following the ordering given in the source, under the assumption that they're listed generally in priority order for the genus
- C. rothschildi is in an awkward position here, being treated as a separate species by ASM but not IUCN. It doesn't help the list that it and C. quichua use the same image.
- Removed rothschildi image as duplicate. Yeah, this happens less often than MSW + IUCN having a species that ASM doesn't, but it's possible, and seems to happen more often with rodents than other mammal orders. It's allowed by the inclusion rules of the list(s).
Those are all my comments on the text. The following is my image review:
- All images have alt-text.
- File:Chaetomys subspinosus-2013.gif: Licensing is fine and corresponds to the author. There are nicer looking options on Commons if you want to find one like File:Chaetomys subspinosus 111784920.jpeg, though they are more obscured and this one does not show the whole tail.
- Swapped images
- File:Porcupine 6.jpg: Is this C. rothschildi or C. quichua? The same image is used for both. There are options for this on Commons and iNaturalist that displays the yellow coloration of C. quichua, which I don't know if also applies to C. rothschildi? This is confused by the two entries being on this list despite categorization not matching per IUCN. Otherwise the license is usable as a flickr import.
- Removed from rothschildi as per above
- File:Coendou insidiosus 363764971.jpg: iNat import with usable license.
- File:Coendou baturitensis Mulungu-CE.JPG: Author matches up - usable license.
- File:Coendu bicolor.jpg: Author matches up - usable license.
- File:Coendou nycthemera 250736201.jpg: iNat import with usable license.
- File:Black-tailed hairy dwarf porcupine.jpg: Not much information about the photographer but their exif data is consistent so the 'own work' here is believable. License is usable.
- File:Prehensile-tailed porcupine sitting in tree - DPLA - fff999db3a9db19f15867971b2eea9db.jpg: DPLA upload, license matches.
- File:Brown hairy dwarf porcupine - Coendou vestitus (02) - NHMI.jpg: Similar case to black-tailed hairy dwarf porcupine. Usable license.
- File:Pernambuco Dwarf Porcupine, Pernambuco, BR imported from iNaturalist photo 484962573.jpg: iNat import with usable license.
- File:Coendou mexicanus 35816270.jpg: iNat import with usable license.
- File:Coendou spinosus (cropped).jpeg: Unknown provenance but believable based on other uploads from editor. Usable license. TinEye didn't return anything but has been rather useless lately.
- File:Coendou rufescens 83352911.png: iNat import with usable license. I would argue that File:Coendou rufescens 13333536.jpg is higher quality but there are some undesirable qualities to that photo.
- File:Porcupine-BioDome.jpg: Believable as own work, usable license. You may want to use different photos for the top of the page and the list entry, just because there are so many options, but as with all my alternate-image suggestions it's up to you.
- Swapped out list photo
- @Reconrabbit: Thanks for the review! Responded inline. --PresN 19:08, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. I defer to you on C. rothschildi's treatment. This list gets my support (and a pass on the image review, if I can do both here). -- Reconrabbit 15:46, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 15:11, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
He's a bit of a chonky boy, but hes got an interesting story to tell and he's the first of five. Originally, I nominated this list and others like it for merging with the main List of World Heritage Sites page as unnecessary duplication. The consensus was, so concerns about manageability, readability, and content duplication could be addressed, to make it a simple list without tables and to reorganize it into the UNESCO geoscheme, not the UN geoscheme. Luckily, this region has the least amount of World Heritage Sites (it is also very small compared to the other continent spanning lists) and it was already in UNESCO geoscheme format so I chose this to be the first FL on such a topic. I have included an introduction to World Heritage sites as the first paragraph (standard) and a overview (new) of the entire region.
It doesn't have much prose, there are a lot of references but they only really verify the existence of the sites in the actual list part, and there are only 26 which are in the lead. If anyone has any suggestions like changing prose or removing references, then you may be bold and implement them. Also if you have an idea for how to make a map appear like those that are standard across Lists of World Heritage Sites, then let me know. If you think other information should be added, then feel free to suggest it!
The list for Palestine has only gotten one support, but both the other two major reviewers User:Tone and User:Richard Nevell have been semiactive. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 15:11, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- I have added Template:Location map+ to this article but it is not working, if someone can fix this it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 01:46, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Mymis
[edit]- The table shows that UAE has 6 sites, but I believe it has only 2, no? By looking at the list itself. How many does Algeria have? 6 or 7? And how many in the tentative list, 11 or 12? Mymis (talk) 15:58, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comment, I resolved the UAE issued but there was no issue with Algeria, both the first table and dotted list display 12 items (so does the source) @Mymis: Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 00:22, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- The issue with Algeria was that there were 11 sites listed while the table said 12. I can see you now added the 12th one. For UAE, it now says 16? Mymis (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comment, I resolved the UAE issued but there was no issue with Algeria, both the first table and dotted list display 12 items (so does the source) @Mymis: Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 00:22, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Similar to the above, I see multiple errors in the table. Can you please review every country carefully once again? For instance, it says 0 for Oman? Does Libya have 5 or 6? And there may be more. Mymis (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oman had one delisted, the table is about the current amount but I thought it would be helpful (and make the list more comprehensive) if I included the delisted site (will add an efn note later). I have fixed Libya and will check the other sites when I have more time (this weekend probably) Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:46, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Olliefant (she/her) 13:38, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
My second Vice President Electoral History list, Dan Quayle has participated in 3ish primary elections and 6 general elections. A much less extensive set than my previous FLC but still a long career none the less. I would like to thank Bremps for comments on the Peer review and JoeM3120 for creating the page back in 2013. I hope to continue this series of VPEH soon. Olliefant (she/her) 13:38, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- "But just the old favorites, eh?" - The Fourth Doctor Who
Comments from Bgsu98 (10/7/25)
[edit]- "He and Bush ran for reelection were defeated in the 1992 presidential election by Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton and Tennessee Senator Al Gore." There appears to be a missing transition somewhere in there. Done
- What was Quayle up to before running for the U.S. House of Representatives? Did he not serve at the state level, or do these articles only focus on national elections? I cannot remember from your last article (on Joe Biden, right?). Even if the U.S. House race was his first election, maybe a brief explanation of where he came from prior to that first election could provide some background.
- It was Joe Biden, the history covers all levels of government, per Electoral history of Joe Biden#County council election (1970)
- Okay, I see now that he was the general manager of a newspaper. Perhaps some mention of this could be put at the beginning of this section, but leave the details about how his work in newspapers helped him in the general election where you have it. Done
- "In 1978, Quayle ran for reelection he won the Republican nomination unopposed..." Another missing transition. Done
- "Quayle's aids..." I believe they're aides.
- "Quayle received almost twice as many votes as Walda and winning a second term." That should either be "and won" or ", winning". Done
- "Additionally, Bush was hoping "balance the ticket" geographically..." Another missing transition. Done
- "Additionally, Bush was hoping "balance the ticket" geographically and selecting Quayle, a midwesterner, would help him do so." Perhaps clarify that Bush believed that selecting Quayle would help him... Otherwise it comes off as speculation. Done
- "Bentsen, a friend of Kennedy's," I don't believe you need the 's. Done
- Change "the Washington Post" to The Washington Post. Done
User:OlifanofmrTennant: Please let me know if you have any questions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:14, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support based on my review of the prose. I will look at the tables and images, but do not expect any issues. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:21, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- All images have appropriate licenses, alt-text, and captions. Image review passed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:06, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Brief comments
"Quayle decided to run, because he felt that Bayh's liberal views did not reflect the political positions of Indianans and that they led to poor economic results."
- this and any similar statements should be in the form "Quayle said he decided to run because", as we don't know if that's true or just a campaign position.- The 1988 presidential election table has Dukakis with 0 electoral votes, but he got 111.
--PresN 13:48, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- I adjusted the wording across the page however for the second point. The data in the table has 111 for the EV count but its displaying 0. I think this is due to the inclusion of an EFN next to the number. I don't know how to fix it without removing the EFN Olliefant (she/her) 22:27, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- @PresN: forgot to ping Olliefant (she/her) 22:28, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- User:OlifanofmrTennant: I moved that note to under the table, so it now shows Dukakis' electoral votes. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:38, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Olliefant (she/her) 22:39, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- If you want to expand the note, perhaps wikilink faithless elector, that might be a good idea. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Olliefant (she/her) 22:39, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:55, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
It's been a bit, but next up in the congressional delegations series (which includes Utah, Indiana, Hawaii, Connecticut, Colorado, Idaho and Arizona) is Arkansas! Compared to the others, Arkansas' representation in Congress is uniquely non-continuous, as it's the first state in the series that was part of the Confederacy. Please let me know if you have any feedback for the list! Thanks as always, Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:55, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
MPGuy2824's comments
[edit]- The few images that I checked didn't have alt-texts. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:27, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for this oversight, @MPGuy2824. This should now be fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:46, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- The table in the "1883–1893" section would need to be split. Right now it suffers from MOS:COLHEAD issues (last column). Alternatively, you can title the column "5th district" and add a footnote for Breckeridge to say that he was elected from the at-large district.
- The same problem in the "1873–1883" section.
- The first sentence in the lead is quite long. It could use a split.
- "Every member of Arkansas' current congressional delegation, including Boozman, are members of the Republican Party." I think there is a singular-plural issue here. Rewriting might be better.
- "and an affair"
- I noticed a few links that need disambiguation: Drug Enforcement Agency, The Hill, and Rick Crawford.
-MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:17, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @MPGuy2824, thanks for your review. I believe I've fixed everything you have pointed out. If you have any more comments, please let me know! Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:52, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on prose and accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:51, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
OlifanofmrTennant
[edit]- I think its worth writing about the changes in the size of the delegation in the lead
- I think it should include information about the partisan balance in the lead, something similar to what exists on United States presidential elections in Arkansas
- "Each state elects a varying number of" for non Americans explain why the numbers vary
- "The current dean, or longest-serving member, of the Arkansas delegation" I think the wording may need to be tweaked, currently it looks like McClennan and Boozman are both the longest serving as opposed to Boozman the longest serving incumbent and McClennan the longest overall.
- "Prior to the ratification of the Seventeenth Amendment in 1913, Arkansas senators were elected by the Arkansas General Assembly." and after the ratification how are they elected?
- Under Current Delegation list the least Republican district
- My thoughts ping me when done Olliefant (she/her) 13:57, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @OlifanofmrTennant, thanks for your review. I believe I've addressed everything you've pointed out here. I included a small bit about political trends in Arkansas; let me know if you think more should be added. If you have any more comments, please let me know! Staraction (talk | contribs) 22:30, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
The table keys are redundant, you don't need to say blue means Democratic ten times; please consolidate at top. Reywas92Talk 15:17, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Reywas92, do you think something like United States congressional delegations from Indiana's system is better? Or would it be better to include the key that I removed in Special:Diff/1315357785 at the top somewhere? I've implemented the former system for now. Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 17:37, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Either one looks good to me! — Reywas92Talk 17:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'll keep the former system then. Thanks for looking over the article! Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:51, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Either one looks good to me! — Reywas92Talk 17:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Octave
[edit]Will provide a source review later, please ping me if I forget. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 14:33, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Reviewed Special:Permalink/1315782915
Reliability
- Sources seem reliable for their uses
- Noting that the Encyclopedia of Arkansas is written by volunteers but has a substantial editorial board
Consistency
- Use of archive links is inconsistent
- I believe this is now fixed. For Biographical Directory of the United States Congress links, I've used Megalodon.jp instead of the Internet Archive because the website works better with Megalodon for some reason. Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Use of access dates is inconsistent
- I'm not entirely sure how to resolve this; the word "retrieved" appears on the article 74 times, and there are 75 references total, with one of them being for the U.S. Constitution. Please let me know if there's something I'm missing here. Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think I've made a mistake here, it looks fine now. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 16:01, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Inconsistent use of "via" for books and newspapers
- I've added "via" to all possible fields. Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:34, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 55 still has a publisher. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 16:01, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed. Thank you! Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:11, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Inconsistent use of publisher location
- I've removed publisher locations from all possible fields. Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:34, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Inconsistent date format in journal sources
- I believe I've fixed this. Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:34, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Inconsistent wiki-linking of parameters
- I have wikilinked everything I see that is possible. Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:34, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Consider using a consistent casing in citation titles (e.g. title case or sentence case)
- Currently I try to copy the casing in what the source gives me. Is this a frowned-upon system? Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:34, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've just seen the relevant discussion over at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Tyla discography/archive1. I understand both sides of the debate. In accordance, I will try to use Title Case in future, but I don't believe it is presently worth the time to go back through all the sources for minor capitalization issues. Let me know if you think this works for the purposes of your review. Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:43, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- That's absolutely fine. The reason I used this phrasing is that while it is technically correct to do this, I recognise it can be a timesink. While ideally this would be done, I don't see it as something that would stop me from passing a review. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 16:02, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Other comments
- EOA refs should be consistent in including "Central Arkansas Library System"
- I've removed "Central Arkansas Library System" from all EOA refs. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:15, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Senate refs don't include "U.S. Senate" in their actual title
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:15, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Refs 15 and 17 are duplicates
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Refs 29 and 30 are duplicates
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Use identifiers (doi, ISBN, OCLC) for book references wherever possible
- I believe this should be fixed, thanks to my best friend Citation bot. Let me know if there are other issues similar to this. Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Many of the page ranges supplied are far too wide (some >20 pages), please use a system like {{rp}} after an individual reference to aid verifiability
- I've used {{rp}} to add page numbers. For the Biographical Directory of the United States Congress references in each individual table, I don't think using {{rp}} is feasible because the ranges cited are immense, and would not help resolve this issue.
- Shouldn't it be Associated Press like the article
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 4: MOS:CONFORM change hyphens for ranges to dashes
- Done. Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:20, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 5: "National Archives" is not part of the title
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:20, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 7: is missing a date
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:20, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 11: missing author
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 15: missing author
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 16: use the website name, not URL
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 22: missing page range for section; should be United States Government Printing Office to match earlier ref
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:24, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 26: missing date
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:20, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 42: missing date
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:20, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 44: TIME -> Time
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 46: names in wrong order
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 50: names in wrong order
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 53: use website name, not URL
- Fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 56: consider listing editor
- Done. Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:20, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 59: newspaper is the Chicago Daily Tribune
- I've changed the wikilink accordingly. However, note it still redirects to Chicago Tribune. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Spotchecks will be completed after individual page numbers are supplied. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 19:03, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for your detailed comments. I will work on this over the next couple of days, and ping you when I'm done. I hope you don't mind if I use your comment as a checklist. Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 17:22, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @UpTheOctave!, thank you again for your thorough source analysis. I've added individual page numbers (see above for the one exception) and resolved everything else to the best of my ability. Please let me know if you see anything else that needs fixing. Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:35, 10 October 2025 (UTC) (please ping on reply)
- Thanks for this; I've replied above and will provide spotchecks soon. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 16:04, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Passing spotchecks, overall a pass for sourcing. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 16:00, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for this; I've replied above and will provide spotchecks soon. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 16:04, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98 (10/7/25)
[edit]- I have no comments for improvement on the prose. Everything looks very good! I will return later to examine the tables and everything else. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:29, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- All images have appropriate licenses, alt-text, and captions. Image review passed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:18, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Tables appear to be formatted properly per MOS:ACCESS.
- This article has no short description at the top. Recommend adding one.
User:Staraction: I will go ahead and support this well-written article as I am sure you will add a short description, and I'm not sure it is even a technical requirement. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:22, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Bgsu98, thanks for your comments. I'm not sure I should add a short description here because similar articles (see United States congressional delegations from Hawaii) don't, and I think it might fit under the criteria at WP:SDNONE. What are your thoughts? Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:50, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- That looks fair to me! Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:05, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk and RunningTiger123 09:57, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
We are nominating the 2025 Primetime Emmys because we believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I followed how the 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 were written and structured. Note: RunningTiger123 is also listed as a co-nominator since he made considerable and significant contributions to this list. Birdienest81talk 09:57, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- For the tables before the Bob Hope award section: The information isn't really a table (the columns have nothing to do with every row). To indicate that it isn't a "data" table but a "presentation" table see MOS:LTAB. You add
role=presentation
to the table, drop the caption, change all '!' to '|' and you're good. - For the tables after the Bob Hope award section: tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| ''Severance''
becomes!scope=row | ''Severance''
(on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use!scope=rowgroup
instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- (please
mention me on reply) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:33, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Dumelow (talk) 06:05, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
This is my first FLC nomination but I believe it meets all the required criteria. This was written in conjunction with Pickersgill-Cunliffe who is unfortunately on a wikibreak due to illness but I will endeavour to address any and all comments - Dumelow (talk) 06:05, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
|+ caption_text
as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead. - Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding
!scope=col
to each header cell, e.g.! Year
becomes!scope=col | Year
. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use!scope=colgroup
instead. - Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| 1987
becomes!scope=row | 1987
(on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use!scope=rowgroup
instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- All images need alt text.
- See MOS:THISISALIST and fix the first sentence of the lead. (please
mention me on reply) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:11, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi MPGuy2824, thanks for the pointers. I think I have actioned them all. As I say, I am not overly familiar with featured lists so would welcome any feedback - Dumelow (talk) 06:46, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- You haven't added the table captions. See the first point above.
- I've had a go at adding them, can you check it's worked?
- The image cell isn't the primary cell of a row. I would say that the name cell should be made the header cell for all the rows.
- I'm sorry, I don't know what this means. Do you mean move the image to a different column or just move the
!scope=row
code to the name cell?- The latter -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:43, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've done this, it's highlighted all the name column in bold and shading, is that how it's meant to work or have I cocked it up? - Dumelow (talk) 08:47, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- The latter -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:43, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't know what this means. Do you mean move the image to a different column or just move the
- For the lead image, don't use a fixed pixel size. See MOS:UPRIGHT.
- Now specified as a thumb
- You can remove the hard coded background color for the header row. It seems to be ignored anyway.
- Removed
- Richard James Tench - one of the sources says that he retired in 1908, without any mention of service during WW1.
- I'm using, as the basis for inclusion, any flag officer listed by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, an organisation whose role it is to record British and Commonwealth deaths in the two world wars. I am cautious that moving away from their list would take us into the realms of original research - Dumelow (talk) 13:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Table captions: This wasn't done correctly, but I've fixed it. I leave it up to you whether to use the {{sronly}} or not.
- row scope for the name cell. This is now correct, but if you want the background and font-weight to be like the other cells you can style these cells individually. The scope is mostly meant for screen reader software.
- I'm not sure about including everybody that the Graves Commission has in their database. They might have included more people in an overabundance of caution. "List of active and retired flag officers who happened to die while the First World War was going on" isn't an interesting (or notable) list. Active-duty flag officers who were killed in action (during an operation or of illness) is what I think readers would expect from this list given its title. I'll hold off on supporting this list for promotion until other reviewers chime in. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:20, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- The CWGC inclusion criteria can be found here (one of the sources linked in the article), for reference. Their list includes all serving military personnel who died during the war and those who died after discharge if their death was a result of wounds or accident occurring on active service or a disease contracted on or aggravated by active service. Like many retired officers, Tench returned to service during the war; he worked as a technical officer with the Admiralty Shipyard Labour Department (which I have now added to the list) - Dumelow (talk) 07:18, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, good that you found a document showing return to service during the War. Please continue to search for causes of death for the 3 officers where this info is missing. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:31, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- The CWGC inclusion criteria can be found here (one of the sources linked in the article), for reference. Their list includes all serving military personnel who died during the war and those who died after discharge if their death was a result of wounds or accident occurring on active service or a disease contracted on or aggravated by active service. Like many retired officers, Tench returned to service during the war; he worked as a technical officer with the Admiralty Shipyard Labour Department (which I have now added to the list) - Dumelow (talk) 07:18, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi MPGuy2824, thanks for the pointers. I think I have actioned them all. As I say, I am not overly familiar with featured lists so would welcome any feedback - Dumelow (talk) 06:46, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on table and image accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:32, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
Simon Harley
[edit]- Using the CWGC as the basis of the list is questionable. For example, Sir George Warrender died over a month after retiring from the Navy and verifiably wasn't employed at the time of his death. While researching this little review I saw that it claims that Charles Le Mesurier was a Commodore, 2nd Class when he died, despite the fact he had been relieved of command months earlier and reverted to being a Captain.
- As above, the CWGC is an organisation whose role is to record those that died during the two world wars. I am cautious that deleting entries because we don't think they were active at the time constitutes original research. The article states that listing by the CWGC is the requirement for inclusion
- The CWGC inclusion criteria can be found here (one of the sources linked in the article), for reference. Their list includes all serving military personnel who died during the war and those who died after discharge if their death was a result of wounds or accident occurring on active service or a disease contracted on or aggravated by active service. I will remove Le Mesurier, he is mentioned incidentally only - Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've written to CWGC about Warrender. He'd been serving ashore for a year before he was retired, so it's difficult to credit that his active service aggravated any ailment he had. —Simon Harley (Talk). 07:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- The CWGC inclusion criteria can be found here (one of the sources linked in the article), for reference. Their list includes all serving military personnel who died during the war and those who died after discharge if their death was a result of wounds or accident occurring on active service or a disease contracted on or aggravated by active service. I will remove Le Mesurier, he is mentioned incidentally only - Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- As above, the CWGC is an organisation whose role is to record those that died during the two world wars. I am cautious that deleting entries because we don't think they were active at the time constitutes original research. The article states that listing by the CWGC is the requirement for inclusion
- "In British wartime prime minister David Lloyd George's 1933 memoirs he lauds the admirals for serving at sea and sharing the risk of death with their men. He contrasts this with the service of British generals in the war whom he generalises as châteaux generals who did not visit the battlefield. This myth is unfair on the generals who suffered heavy casualties during the war, with many killed in action. Three British admirals were killed in action during the war compared to at least 78 British generals with the rate of death proportionately greater in the army." By my admittedly quick count from Bloody Red Tabs 64 of these were Brigadier-Generals, which was equivalent to Commodores First and Second Class in the Navy: this rank was not counted as flag officer under the regulations then in force.[1] Quite frankly the whole quoted section should be deleted.
- I have trimmed this out, as you suggest it is not quite comparing apples with apples
- "The rank of admiral of the fleet was held for life and was granted to the most senior serving naval officers or as an honorary rank for prior service." Heathcote is wrong: the rank was given to the most senior qualified officer: before 1914 Admirals of the Fleet "selected by His Majesty from the Admirals on the active list who have served as Commander-in-Chief or who have commanded at sea as Flag Officer for two years".[2] Before the war it was still possible for officers to reach the rank of Admiral with less than two years service afloat as a flag officer (for example John Denison).
- Thanks, do you have a suggested phrasing and replacement source?
- 'In August 1914 there were 18 serving rear-admirals, 22 vice-admirals, 12 admirals (plus 2 honorary appointments), and 3 admirals of the fleet (plus the monarch George V and 3 honorary appointments).' The Navy List was corrected to 18 July, so August isn't correct. There were 58 rear-admirals, not 18.
- Corrected to July and the typo on 58.
- Since the above section was included, why not a mention of senior Engineer officers? It is worth pointing out that the Navy of the day was very specific about what was considered a "flag officer", and even Engineer Rear-Admirals and above were not counted as such.
- Good point, I have added a mention of how many were serving in July 1914. I also think this article would be better at "...Royal Navy admirals...", as Pickersgill-Cunliffe suggested on the talk page a couple of years ago; otherwise, as you say, engineer officers should be omitted. Do you have any thoughts on this? - Dumelow (talk) 13:32, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Possibly more remarks later. —Simon Harley (Talk). 11:16, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
And another.
- William Maxwell Craig died on 6 August 1914. As a Surgeon-General he held the relative rank of Rear-Admiral. Again, this strays into the definition of a flag officer. Whilst engineers counted as Military Branch after 1 January 1915, medical officers certainly didn't. —Simon Harley (Talk). 07:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Simon Harley, just checking if you had any more thoughts on my proposal to move this to "List of Royal Navy admirals...", which I think may resolve some of the inclusion criteria issues you've raised? - Dumelow (talk) 17:37, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comment
[edit]- "During this period....." - what period? You haven't specified a period. Even if you consider that the title counts (which I would say it doesn't) you are assuming that every reader knows when the First World War happened..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:42, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- When I deleted the name of the article it removed the context. I have replaced "this period" with "the First World War" - Dumelow (talk) 08:50, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
More comments
[edit]- Ranks linked in the lead (rear admiral, etc) should also be linked on first use in the body
- Done - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "In 1914 Royal Navy practice was for rear-admirals to lead divisions of 2-4 battleships, they also commanded squadrons of battlecruisers" - comma should be a semi-colon
- Done - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Many admirals also held staff positions on land rather than sea-going commands" => "Many admirals held staff positions on land rather than sea-going commands" - the use of "also" suggests that these admirals held posts both at land and sea, which I don't believe is what you mean
- Yes, you are right. Removed "also" - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "The only non Royal Navy admiral" => "The only non-Royal Navy admiral"
- Hyphen added - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "This list includes all officers noted by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) as holding flag officer rank and who died" => "This list includes all officers noted by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) as holding flag officer rank who died"
- Removed "and" - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Some senior captains were appointed to the role of commodore to command a formation of ships, it did not become a formal rank until 1997" - comma should be a semi-colon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:31, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Switched. Thanks for these suggestions, much appreciated - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:47, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:45, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Here's my 40th AC number ones list for your delectation. This particular year was mainly about Savage Garden and Faith Hill, but in addition none other than Gwyneth Paltrow had a number one. Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:45, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98
[edit]- No issues with the prose.
- Table appears to be formatted properly.
Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:14, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- You'll want to correct the date for the Paltrow image in commons. It should be the date of the photo, not when it was uploaded.
- Support on prose and accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:28, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): PresN 19:46, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
Hey everyone, mammal list #61 in our perpetual series and rodent list #6: Dasyproctidae. We continue here covering the Caviomorpha parvorder, aka "things shaped kinda like guinea pigs", with the agoutis, which look like lanky guinea pigs. So that checks out. 21 species, mostly in South America, and for once almost everything has a picture and a range map. As always, the list reflects the scientific consensus as well as the results of prior FLCs. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 19:46, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support - always very hard to find anything to pick up on these lists and that's the case again here. Great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on prose and accessibility. Couldn't find anything for you to fix. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:40, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): SounderBruce 23:14, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
The Seattle Seawolves are a successful rugby union team who finished their eighth season this year, making them finally eligible for a nomination. This is the seventh in my series of lists about Seattle's major league sports teams and their seasons, and fashioned similar to them due to the lack of suitable rugby equivalents at FL. As such, I'm highly amenable to major changes. SounderBruce 23:14, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- Lead image could probably be made larger
- "The team is a member [singular] of the Western Conference and play their [plural] home matches" - I know that there is a lot of ambiguity around whether a sports team is singular or plural (in both US and UK English) but this reads particularly jarringly - is there any way to avoid it?
- Swapped in "Seawolves" for "the team".
- "Western Conference leaders Austin Gilgronis and the LA Giltinis" - is it correct that you only put "the" before one team name but not the other?
- Fixed.
- "The remainder of the season, including the playoffs, were cancelled" => "The remainder of the season, including the playoffs, was cancelled" (subject of the sentence is "remainder", which is singular)
- Fixed.
- That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Thanks for the review. I have made all three changes. SounderBruce 18:00, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:26, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Drive-by comments
- Sorting on PD, shows -118 between -24 and +38.
- Wikilink "Western Conference", maybe to Major League Rugby#Competition format. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:13, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Both done. Thanks for the comments. SounderBruce 19:36, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- There is only one image used and it has appropriate licensing tags.
- Support on prose, accessibility and image review.
- You might want to add a footnote for the points column header (4 for each win, 2 for each draw + bonus points). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:27, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Both done. Thanks for the comments. SounderBruce 19:36, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 16:25, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
I've been updating this list for a couple of years, so I figured it should be my first individual FL nomination. As far as I know, this is the first Intangible Cultural Heritage list to be nominated as well. I have been adding descriptions to each element and greatly improving the list for several months, and now I believe it is complete and meets the FL criteria. The review process will probably take a while as this is a rather long list, but any suggestions and improvements are welcome. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 16:25, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Very brief comments but could you add to what the national register and Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity do. I am thinking of descriptions similar to those in the WHS lists. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 12:36, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean exactly. Similarly to the WHS lists, the lead defines Intangible Cultural Heritage, and then the following paragraph mentions that the National Register safeguards these elements on the national level. Do you want me to expand these descriptions or were you thinking of something else? Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 16:33, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Do items have to be inscribed on the national register to be recognized by UNESCO, and what specific criteria (LIke "UNESCO lists sites under ten criteria; each entry must meet at least one of the criteria. Criteria i through vi are cultural, and vii through x are natural" from Ukranian whs list) are there to being inscribed on each of the lists? 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:16, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- "The Ministry of Culture of Ukraine has also formed the National Register ... which is required by the Convention for the further nomination of these elements to the UNESCO lists" – so inscription on the National Register precedes the nomination to the UNESCO lists. ICH elements don't have to meet one or more criteria from a certain list to be inscribed, unlike World Heritage Sites. Instead they have much more rigid sets of criteria, which in my opinion are self-explanatory (e.g., for the Urgent Safeguarding List, an element must fit the definition of ICH, must be endangered, the country must attempt to safeguard it, it should be practiced within the nominating country, etc). I can add these in a footnote if you think it's necessary to include this info, though I think it's somewhat redundant. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 06:07, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah you could add them to footnotes, and on the same subject the footnotes in this article are quite large. You should think about integrating them into the main text of the article per H:FN Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 04:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm still not convinced on the necessity of adding this. These criteria are similar to the ones necessary for World Heritage Sites that are not elaborated upon in WHS lists (such as proper management and safeguarding, and a high enough level of authenticity and integrity). Now that I look at the ICH criteria again, I believe they're already mentioned in the lead (the definition of ICH, the facts that these elements are protected and nominated by individual countries that maintain their own national registers) and subsections under each list (that the Representative List aims to represent the country worldwide, the Urgent Safeguarding list is for endangered elements, and the Register of Good Safeguarding Practices accredits programs and projects that safeguard ICH). I believe there are no major omissions from UNESCO's ICH criteria in the text.
- As for the footnotes - do you have any specific ones in mind? I believe they generally contain information that is too technical to include in the text or would otherwise disrupt the flow, but maybe you have some ideas on how to incorporate some of the info. For example, the first footnote on the name changes of the Ministry of Culture is important to understand the different names that may be mentioned in the sources, but at the same time this information is not important enough to be in the lead itself. Similarly, the regional/local ICH registers are important to mention but, as they are not included in the list, probably don't belong to the main text. And I'm not quite sure how big of a footnote is too big (especially thinking back to the List of Ukrainian placenames affected by derussification). Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 10:56, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- In case it helps, I agree with leaving the footnotes as they are. They all include important clarifying details and aren't excessively long and have a better than good proportion to the overall size of this list. Dan the Animator 17:20, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah you could add them to footnotes, and on the same subject the footnotes in this article are quite large. You should think about integrating them into the main text of the article per H:FN Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 04:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- "The Ministry of Culture of Ukraine has also formed the National Register ... which is required by the Convention for the further nomination of these elements to the UNESCO lists" – so inscription on the National Register precedes the nomination to the UNESCO lists. ICH elements don't have to meet one or more criteria from a certain list to be inscribed, unlike World Heritage Sites. Instead they have much more rigid sets of criteria, which in my opinion are self-explanatory (e.g., for the Urgent Safeguarding List, an element must fit the definition of ICH, must be endangered, the country must attempt to safeguard it, it should be practiced within the nominating country, etc). I can add these in a footnote if you think it's necessary to include this info, though I think it's somewhat redundant. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 06:07, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Do items have to be inscribed on the national register to be recognized by UNESCO, and what specific criteria (LIke "UNESCO lists sites under ten criteria; each entry must meet at least one of the criteria. Criteria i through vi are cultural, and vii through x are natural" from Ukranian whs list) are there to being inscribed on each of the lists? 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:16, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean exactly. Similarly to the WHS lists, the lead defines Intangible Cultural Heritage, and then the following paragraph mentions that the National Register safeguards these elements on the national level. Do you want me to expand these descriptions or were you thinking of something else? Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 16:33, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Also I have a general question not directed to anyone in particular about the usage of Transliteration and Lang templates. I know that it's recommended to use them whenever possible, but this list has lots of cases where these templates could be utilized, in fact so many that I'm worried that adding them would make the page significantly larger and possibly cause loading problems. Currently, I'm simply using italics instead of these templates (as mentioned in the footnote for the description columns), but I'm not sure whether that's registered by screen readers. Then should I keep the italics or replace them with the templates? Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:32, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 I think adding in all the transliteration and lang templates wouldn't be that much though if it starts to slow down or causes issues, there is a special Wiki markup bypass that helps for cases like this. It is explained briefly here. In the case of this list, Module:Lang would probably be the correct invoke. The very long article Japanese conjugation has the same issue and already uses
#invoke:
in place of a bunch of templates but also keeps a lot of templates as well (a lot more than this list does currently I think). - So, I would consider simply adding in all the translit and lang templates as they normally would but if there is a strong concern with the byte size, just add in only the regular translit templates and make all the lang templates use the markup
{{#invoke:lang|lang|uk|2=Традиція Косівської мальованої кераміки|italics=yes}}
(the Cyrillic text is a placeholder example). Also, per MOS:LANG and as you mentioned, the italics don't get picked up by screen readers so the templates or invoke markup would be better. This is my first experience with this class of markup so hopefully it works (the sample markup above worked fine for me in a test) but feel free to let me know if there's any issues with it or for invoke markup for other templates. Dan the Animator 04:39, 6 October 2025 (UTC)- I just added the Translit/Lang templates, and you're right, they didn't add as much size to the page as I expected. Thanks for clarifying when to use them and the alternative way of invoking them as well. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:01, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 I think adding in all the transliteration and lang templates wouldn't be that much though if it starts to slow down or causes issues, there is a special Wiki markup bypass that helps for cases like this. It is explained briefly here. In the case of this list, Module:Lang would probably be the correct invoke. The very long article Japanese conjugation has the same issue and already uses
MPGuy2824
[edit]- 4 images are missing alt-text (104 images, 100 alt-texts).
- Change "Revived due to the Disappearance of Tradition" to "Revived after the disappearance of the tradition".
- All section titles need to follow MOS:SECTIONCAPS. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:56, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- First and second done, but don't the names of the lists count as proper nouns, thus meaning that title case applies? UNESCO uses title case for its lists, and similarly the style is kept in all the lists of World Heritage Sites, many of which are FLs. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:17, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 (forgot to mention in reply). Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 06:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- You've used the "caption" param for various tables. I don't think that is considered by the wiki engine. At least I couldn't find anything about it in Help:Tables. Please remove them.
- Done
- A lead image would be nice. Either a locator map of Ukraine within Europe or one of the images from the first few tables.
- I don't want the images to repeat, so added a locator map. Let me know if one showing disputed or occupied territories would fit better.
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:48, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I addressed your comments. Thanks for the support. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:09, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 (forgot to mention in reply). Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 06:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- First and second done, but don't the names of the lists count as proper nouns, thus meaning that title case applies? UNESCO uses title case for its lists, and similarly the style is kept in all the lists of World Heritage Sites, many of which are FLs. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:17, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Dantheanimator
[edit]Great seeing this nominated and congrats Shwabb on your first FLN! :) Adding in a few small things I noticed but will try to do a fuller review when I have time and maybe help with the source review too
- "Three items – Embroidery technique 'white-in-white' of the town Reshetylivka in Poltava region, Rivne region tradition of the Polissia Dudka-Vykrutka, and Safeguarding practice of the "Tradition of the Generous Evening in Ukraine" through formal and non-formal education – were nominated for inclusion on the UNESCO lists in 2026."--> "Three items were nominated for inclusion on the UNESCO Lists in 2026: the 'white-on-white' embroidery technique from Reshetylivka in the Poltava region; the Dudka-Vykrutka tradition of Polissia in the Rivne region; and the safeguarding practice of the 'Tradition of the Generous Evening in Ukraine' through formal and non-formal education." (recommendation from ChatGPT, which I also think flows better)
- Done (though I did not re-word the names of the nominated items since they're on the UNESCO website and will probably stay the same if these items go through to the UNESCO Lists next year)
- Looks good to me
- "In addition, one hundred fifteen items are inscribed on the National Register of Elements of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Ukraine." --> Maybe this can be simplified to "In addition, one hundred fifteen items are inscribed on Ukraine's National Register."
- Done
- "Although all regions of Ukraine are represented in the Register through" --> Does this Register refer to the National Register of UNESCO's register (assuming it's the national one but might be good to add National/UNESCO for clarity)
- UNESCO manages three Lists, while the state controls the Register that consists of five Inventories. I can see how this can be confusing since all these terms are similar, so this is fixed.
- Makes sense and looks good now
- Maybe retitle the "Media" columns to "Photo" for consistency with other lists? (all the rows looked like they had either Photos or were empty so it would also be more precise)
- There is one video (Cossack's songs on the UNESCO list), and I initially expected to find more videos (especially for other song and dance-related items) so I titled the columns "Media". I did find a video of the singing tradition of Luka but the YouTube video uploading tool did not let me upload it to Wikimedia Commons (perhaps because of this screenshot from the video that is already linked to it, which is what I used in the end). If you believe that the Cossack's songs video is out of place, I can replace it with an image and retitle the columns to "Photo" for consistency.
- Ah sorry missed that one though I think it's a great inclusion and definitely should be kept. Considering your explanation, I think the "Media" titling is fine so no worries with that. Also about the uploading issue, I haven't had much Commons experience yet but this page lists some alternative ways to upload videos/media to Commons that could be helpful? Not sure if this is the same as the issue you described but in my experience, sometimes not having a separate wikidata item can cause issues since only one file can be connected to one wikidata entry, and it might be necessary to create a separate wikidata entry. Also maybe would double check the copyright of the video just in case before retrying an upload to make sure it has a CC/open domain license. Hopefully this helps a bit with it.
- Yes, I used the video2commons tool listed to upload directly from YouTube, which did not work. I'll try to download the video through some other website and upload it from my computer instead, maybe that will work.
Upd.: it worked this time and I replaced the screenshot with the video itself. Now there should be two videos in total.
- Forgot to reply here: yup two videos now and both look and sound great. Nice work :) Dan the Animator 21:49, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I used the video2commons tool listed to upload directly from YouTube, which did not work. I'll try to download the video through some other website and upload it from my computer instead, maybe that will work.
Dan the Animator 01:29, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- "These three groups are specifically recognized as the indigenous peoples of Crimea, a disputed region as the result of its internationally unrecognized annexation by Russia in 2014. Most countries recognize the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol as parts of Ukraine despite the de facto Russian control over the area." --> "These three groups are recognized by the Ukrainian Government as the indigenous peoples of Crimea. Since Russia's occupation and internationally unrecognized annexation of the peninsula in 2014, the territory of Crimea has been disputed, with most countries recognizing it as de jure part of Ukraine while de facto it remains under Russian control." Other rewordings also work but I thought this flowed best and was the most informative, accurate, and direct.
- Mostly done, though I changed the wording a bit as it's imporant to mention that, administratively, the Crimean peninsula consists of two entities (ARC and Sevastopol). Let me know if you think of a better way to incorporate this information into the text.
- The wording looks perfect, nice work! :)
- The UNESCO tables have a column for No./Nomination Number but I couldn't find anywhere where the numbering system is explained (i.e. why does the first item start with the number 00893? what do the numbers exactly mean (when the nomination was submitted/accepted/etc.)? maybe how are the numbers read/constructed (does each digit/group of digits represent something or are the numbers randomly generated)? who/what created/formalized the number standards and who manages them now/UNESCO)? Maybe adding in a efn note could help for this? For the National Register numbering, it likely doesn't need any explanation though would be curious if it has always been three digits or adds a digit when it reaches that amount.
- I don't know either how the UNESCO's numbering system works, but I do know that the numbers are assigned to specific nominations when they are submitted to UNESCO before they are reviewed. For example, in this list of nominations that will be evaluated this December, every nomination gets its own number. Regardless, I think this information isn't very important (the system used for World Heritage Sites isn't explained in the respective lists, and that one is even more complicated as it sometimes involves letters). As for the National Register - a digit is added once a new element is inscribed (e.g., currently there are 115 elements, so the newest one is numbered 115).
- I see. Considering past WHS FLs don't explain it, I think it should be fine without it. Also for the National Register, makes sense and thanks for telling me
- For refs with "National Historical Library of Ukraine" (#33, 56, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 139), can it be linked to Vernadsky National Library of Ukraine?
- As far as I know, these are different entities
- Should be fine as-is than
- For all the same refs, "|journal=Нематеріальна культурна спадщина в документних джерелах" should become "|script-journal=Нематеріальна культурна спадщина в документних джерелах |trans-journal=[insert trans name here]"
- Done
- For ref #40 (Geographical indications of Ukraine), maybe add in "|publisher=" since based on the current info in it, it's unclear if this an official source or third-party (also when I try to access it, I get a warning message about an unsafe connection)
- The website is run by an NGO focusing on the development of GIs in Ukraine. I'm not sure what to add for the publisher in this case.
- The English-translation of the NGO name should be put in for publisher than since it's the publisher/manager of the website
- For ref #72, 105, is "|website=Ukrainer" the same as Ukraїner?
- Indeed it is (I could have sworn I checked whether there's a page on English Wikipedia on it when making those references)
- For ref #76, I'm not too sure about this suggestion but would it be more accurate to have "|website=Helmiaziv hromada" typed out as/linked to Helmiaziv rural hromada?
- Yes, that would technically be more correct, but the website is simply named "Helmiaziv hromada"
- Completely optional, you could add in as a piped red link to Helmiaziv rural hromada (i.e. "|website=Helmiaziv hromada") that way when the hromada's article is created it'll automatically link to it though also completely fine left without any links too
- For ref #92, "|website=Chernivtsi Oblast Council" should be linked to Chernivtsi Oblast Council
- Done
- For ref #96, 150, "|website=Rayon.in.ua" probably could be decapped to "|website=rayon.in.ua" (this is how I've seen it usually though not sure which way would be more correct)
- Done
- For ref #107, "|website=Hadiach.City" maybe could be linked to Hadiach? (technically not the most accurate link but it sounds like a local media website just for the city)
- For ref #133, "|website=Kitsman.City" same question as above
- For ref #149, "|website=SarnyNews.City" same question as above
- All the "City" newspapers belong to the same platform of independent media created with the help of this company. Yes, they are intended to publish local news, but they aren't owned by the local governments, so I think it makes more sense not to link the city names.
- Interesting. Better kept without any links than.
- For "which was drafted in 2003 and took effect in 2006." in the lead, I think it would look slightly better having ref #2 together with ref #3 at the end of the sentence since there's only a few words that separate the two and the sentence only has two refs but this is optional (WP:CITEFOOT allows for it but up to you and both are fine with me)
- Done
- "Inscription of new heritage elements on the UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists for their protection and safeguarding is determined by the Intergovernmental Committee for the Safeguarding of Intangible Cultural Heritage, an organization established by the Convention." --> "The inscription of new heritage elements on UNESCO's Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists for protection and safeguarding is determined by the Intergovernmental Committee for the Safeguarding of Intangible Cultural Heritage, an organization established by the Convention."
- Done
- "The Ministry of Culture of Ukraine has also formed the National Register of Elements of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Ukraine to safeguard the country's cultural elements since 2012, which is required by the Convention for the further nomination of these elements to the UNESCO lists." --> "Since 2012, the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine has also maintained the National Register of Elements of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Ukraine to safeguard the country's cultural elements, which is required by the Convention for the further nomination of elements to the UNESCO lists." (flows a bit better with the preceding paragraph)
- Done
- "must play a significant role in the social life of the community" --> "must play a significant role in the social life of a community" (refers to many different communities, not just one)
- Done
- "The submissions are reviewed by the Expert Council on Intangible Cultural Heritage that controls the inscription of elements on the Register." --> "Submissions of elements are reviewed by the Expert Council on Intangible Cultural Heritage, an advisory body that controls the inscription of elements on the Register." (used this Rada ref for getting its definition as an advisory board, though not sure if the additional ref is needed since the original ref/wording already implies that it is an advisory body; also added in the link since based on the Rada law, it seems to be statutory body as defined by that article though this might be a bit too WP:EASTEREGG)
- Done
- "The first Ukrainian element listed – Petrykivka decorative painting – was inscribed in 2013." --> "The first Ukrainian element listed—Petrykivka decorative painting—was inscribed in 2013."
- I think em dashes can sometimes look awkward (especially if there's a reference inside), and while this is not the case here, I'd rather use a unified style. WP:DASHVAR allows the use of spaced en dashes in these cases.
- Sure, that works well too
- "Pysanka is a transnational element shared with Estonia." --> maybe expand slightly to describe what Pysanka is, e.g. "The egg painting tradition Pysanka is a transnational element shared with Estonia."
- Done
- "In addition, one hundred fifteen items are inscribed on Ukraine's National Register." --> "In addition, 115 items are inscribed on Ukraine's National Register." (WP guidelines are somewhat vague to any standards but it seems that typing it out numerically as 115, rather than three words, is preferable.
- Done
- "The inventory includes elements of intangible cultural heritage that are under threat of disappearing due to hostilities, consequences of temporary occupation, natural impacts, or temporary displacement of population." --> "The inventory includes elements of intangible cultural heritage that are under threat of disappearing due to hostilities, consequences of Russian occupation, natural impacts, or temporary displacement of population." (more accurate and less redundant)
- Done
- I also noticed that all the inventory subsections under the National Register have a brief sentence explaining their scope/purpose except for the first, Inventory of Intangible Cultural Heritage. Maybe might be good to add in a brief sentence there too? Probably also fine as-is
- The source actually does not provide an explanation of this inventory, even though it's the largest. It's not exactly the same as UNESCO's Representative List as it doesn't aim to represent the culture globally. Rather, it seems to be the "main" part of the National Register, covering ICH elements that otherwise don't fit the criteria for the other inventories. Now that I look at it, the Ministry's article that I've been using doesn't explain the inventory of revived elements either, so I replaced that with a better source.
- I see and good work with the improved ref for the revived elements sentence. If there's no source to describe that list, probably best to leave as-is then
- Thank you for the review. I replied to all the comments above, have a look whenever you have time and feel free to leave any comments on the list itself. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:49, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Shwabb1! Changes look great and see my comment above for the video uploading issue. Will add a few new suggestions shortly. Dan the Animator 18:13, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator I've replied to the new comments. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 19:58, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 thanks for the quick work and replies :) I added in some ref suggestions/edits I found from looking over all of them and after you reply for those I think I'll give another look to see if there's anything else that should be fixed during the review. Dan the Animator 21:47, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 just finished all the remaining suggestions I could think of for the lead. Dan the Animator 00:24, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator I finished working on your suggestions. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 10:57, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 great work! I think this is ready and happy to support for promotion. Congrats on a successful list and many thanks again for all the work on it. :) Dan the Animator 17:14, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator I finished working on your suggestions. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 10:57, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 just finished all the remaining suggestions I could think of for the lead. Dan the Animator 00:24, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 thanks for the quick work and replies :) I added in some ref suggestions/edits I found from looking over all of them and after you reply for those I think I'll give another look to see if there's anything else that should be fixed during the review. Dan the Animator 21:47, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator I've replied to the new comments. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 19:58, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Shwabb1! Changes look great and see my comment above for the video uploading issue. Will add a few new suggestions shortly. Dan the Animator 18:13, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Here's my 39th nomination of a list of AC number ones. Please gloss over the fact that the first number one of the year featured a horrible horrible man, and focus on the achievements of a little balding man from England and two ladies from Canada..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98 (9/27/25)
[edit]- You spell out some numbers over 10 and render others in numerals. Regardless of WP policy, I'd just pick one to be consistent. Personally, I prefer spelled-out numbers.
- I would use the phrase "the Backstreet Boys".
- "The song was not at the time available..." reads a little awkwardly. I would recommend "At the time, the song was not available..." or "The song was, at the time, not available..."
User:ChrisTheDude: Let me know what you think! Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:08, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: - thanks for your review, all done I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:59, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- The first paragraph uses the phrase "52 issues", while the second paragraph uses "fifty weeks". Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:08, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: - curses! :-) Sorted now..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- See, I like the numbers spelled out; it looks much cleaner. 😃 Definite support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:40, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- User:ChrisTheDude: I have this article up at FAC if you are willing to take a gander. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:56, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: - curses! :-) Sorted now..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- The first paragraph uses the phrase "52 issues", while the second paragraph uses "fifty weeks". Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:08, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- The lead image is more than a decade after this list's year. It would benefit from a "(pictured in 2017)" added to the caption.
- "serviced to radio" - Is there a better way to put this? I can guess what it means though and if this is common jargon, then leave it as is.
- All 4 images have Wikipedia-compatible licenses, so this passes image review.
- No issues with table accessibility.
-MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: - thanks for your review, all done I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:59, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- My first point is still left to do. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: - apologies, could have sworn I made that change but maybe I failed to save. Done now! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- My first point is still left to do. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support on prose, accessibility and image review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:52, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:18, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Since Sweden was just promoted, this is the next national skating championship article in line. The results are all sourced and documented, the tables are properly formatted, and the sources are properly formatted. This national championship competition is interesting in that the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, and Poland combine their national championships into one competition and then split off the top results from each nation to determine the national medalists. Please let me know if you have any feedback or suggestions, and thank you so much! Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:18, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "are held in coordination" - I think "are held in conjunction" would be more common wording
- That does sound better.
- "The 2026 Four Nationals Championships are scheduled to be held 11–13 December 2025" => "The 2026 Four Nationals Championships are scheduled to be held on 11–13 December 2025"
- I always get confused when the dates are DAY/MONTH, so I'll trust you on this one.
- That's it, I think. Great work as ever! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:43, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
User:ChrisTheDude: All fixed. Thank you so much! Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:31, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:36, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- You can consider adding "Veronika Joukalová" to the end of the second-last sentence of the lead.
- Support on text and accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:49, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- User:MPGuy2824: Thank you for your support! I also have World Junior Figure Skating Championships up for consideration here if you have a minute and are willing. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:09, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Preferwiki (talk) 03:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria outlined at WP:FL. The results are all sourced and documented, the tables are properly formatted, the sources are properly formatted and archived, and relevant photographs are used. Additionally, I have already adapted changes that were requested on similar articles to this one so as to avoid issues. Please let me know if you have any feedback and suggestions for improvement. Thank you.Preferwiki (talk) 03:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "one [singular] Blue Dragon Film Awards [plural]" doesn't work
Done
- " one Grand Bell Awards, as well as a Buil Film Awards." - same for both of these
Done
- "tying him with the K-pop girl group Twice." - no reason for the group name to be in italics
Done
- "Kim's breakthrough role in Start-Up" - on the other hand, the title of a TV series should be in italics
Done
- "he won Most Popular Actor in 57th Baeksang Arts Awards." => "he won Most Popular Actor at the 57th Baeksang Arts Awards."
Done
- "he also received the Emotive Award Asia Artist Awards" => "he also received the Emotive Award at the Asia Artist Awards"
Done
- "recognized as one of the 2021 Seoul Drama Awards' character of the year" - "one of" suggests multiple characters were recognised, yet you have "character of the year" (singular)
Done
- "won Outstanding Actor in the 2022 Seoul Drama Awards." => "won Outstanding Actor at the 2022 Seoul Drama Awards."
Done
- "Kim made his debut in the film industry as the title role in Park Hoon-jung's noir film" => "Kim made his debut in the film industry in the title role of Park Hoon-jung's noir film"
Done
- "leading to his win of the New Actor Award" => "leading to his winning the New Actor Award"
Done
- "at the 32nd Buil Film Awards and the 59th Grand Bell Awards respectively" - there's no reason for the word "respectively"
Done
- "nominations in the Most Popular Actor and Best New Actor at the subsequent year 60th Baeksang Arts Awards." => "nominations in the Most Popular Actor and Best New Actor categories at the subsequent year's 60th Baeksang Arts Awards."
Done
- Image caption: "Kim Seon-ho at the 2017 MBC Award" => "Kim Seon-ho at the 2017 MBC Awards"
Done
- In the "nominee/work" column of the table, titles starting with "The" should sort based on the next word
Done
- That one is not done. "The Childe" still sorts under T and "The Tyrant" also sorts incorrectly -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I already put sort code to both projects
Done
- I already put sort code to both projects
- That one is not done. "The Childe" still sorts under T and "The Tyrant" also sorts incorrectly -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Note I should start with a capital letter like all the others -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- This one is also not done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:22, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I missed this. Now all under Notes section start with capital letter
Done
- Thank you for your review. All done. @ChrisTheDude
- I missed this. Now all under Notes section start with capital letter
- Preferwiki (talk) 05:53, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @ChrisTheDude
- I already fix on the latest feedback. Please check again incase I've missed something. Thank you in advance. Preferwiki (talk) 01:56, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- This one is also not done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:22, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:04, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much Preferwiki (talk) 12:56, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Orangesclub
[edit]- I don't see why Twice need to be mentioned at all, they are tied at fourth most awards which isn't notable.
Done
- References #47 and #48 are duplicated
Done
- The hyperlinks for the reference and external links sections should be removed from ToC, I don't believe other comparible FLs have them there
Done
- For the lead, films should have their release years in parenthesis ie The Childe (2023)
Done
- I think the lead could have better flow. A start would be to remove the line break after the first two sentences on his TV roles. Then,
earned him a nomination for Best Supporting Actor – Television and he won Most Popular Actor at the 57th Baeksang Arts Awards
is a bit confusing on first read - I wasn't sure they were for the same ceremony. I would change it to "earned him an award for Best Supporting Actor at the 57th Baeksang Arts Awards alongside a nomination for Best Supporting Actor at the same ceremony" or something along those lines. Open to your thoughts, I just think it needs to be reworded.Done
- Rephrased to this: Kim's breakthrough role in Start-Up earned him the Most Popular Actor Award at the 57th Baeksang Arts Awards, alongside a nomination for Best Supporting Actor – Television at the same ceremony.
Kim made his debut in the film industry in the title role of Park Hoon-jung's noir film The Childe
- this doesn't read well - it is the titular role with the Korean title but in English it reads as if he is a child? I would swap titular for lead.Done
- Rephrased to this: Kim made his feature film debut as the top biller in Park Hoon-jung's noir film The Childe (2023).
- "Top biller" is not an expression in English. I would suggest "Kim made his feature film debut in the leading role of Park Hoon-jung's noir film" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude rephrase to this: Kim made his debut in a feature film with top billing in Park Hoon-jung's noir film, The Childe (2023). I use top billing per Mirriam Webster Dictionary [1], because there are two lead roles but Kim was given top billing status in the film.Preferwiki (talk) 07:07, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- For info, "He was given top billing" is a valid expression in English. "He was the top biller" is not a valid expression -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:34, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Done Rephrase as per suggestion: Kim made his feature film debut in Park Hoon-jung's noir film The Childe (2023), where he was given top billing status. Preferwiki (talk) 03:35, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- For info, "He was given top billing" is a valid expression in English. "He was the top biller" is not a valid expression -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:34, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude rephrase to this: Kim made his debut in a feature film with top billing in Park Hoon-jung's noir film, The Childe (2023). I use top billing per Mirriam Webster Dictionary [1], because there are two lead roles but Kim was given top billing status in the film.Preferwiki (talk) 07:07, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- "Top biller" is not an expression in English. I would suggest "Kim made his feature film debut in the leading role of Park Hoon-jung's noir film" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Rephrased to this: Kim made his feature film debut as the top biller in Park Hoon-jung's noir film The Childe (2023).
- I also think wikilinking leading man and title role are overlinking.
Done
That's all from me for now - I will run a script to make dates formatting consistent as I'm already here. Please ping me when done. orangesclub 🍊 14:48, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review. All done. @User:Orangesclub Preferwiki (talk) 16:35, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Made latest correction as per suggestion. All done. Thanks again for the reviews. Pinging @ChrisTheDude and @Orangesclub Preferwiki (talk) 03:37, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Good work, seems the table's ToC is still including references/links but this isn't dealbreaking for me, support. orangesclub 🍊 20:21, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the support Preferwiki (talk) 08:38, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Good work, seems the table's ToC is still including references/links but this isn't dealbreaking for me, support. orangesclub 🍊 20:21, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Made latest correction as per suggestion. All done. Thanks again for the reviews. Pinging @ChrisTheDude and @Orangesclub Preferwiki (talk) 03:37, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Older nominations
[edit]- Nominator(s): 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 15:22, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria outlined at WP:FL. The list is comprehensive, well-structured, and consistently formatted. It is supported by reliable sources and I’ve made efforts to include all notable entries with verifiable sourcing. Special attention was given to maintaining chronological accuracy and consistency in formatting. I welcome feedback and suggestions for improvement. Thank you. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 15:22, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "along with a few appearances in Kannada, and Tamil cinema" - no reason for that comma before "and"
Done
- "for which she received the Filmfare Lux New Face of the Year" => "for which she received the Filmfare Lux New Face of the Year award"
Done
- " in the the 1995 romantic thriller Takkar" - the word "the" is in there twice
Done
- I would also suggest changing that same sentence to start "She gained" so that you do not have two consecutive sentences starting with "Bendre...."
Done
- "The Broken News (2022-2024)" - the dash should be an ndash (–)
Done
- "earned her a nomination for the Filmfare OTT Awards for Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series" => "earned her a nomination at the Filmfare OTT Awards for Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series"
Done
- "Hindi & Tamil" should be "Hindi and Tamil" per MOS:AMPERSAND
Done
- "Season 1-3" should be "Seasons 1–3" (with an ndash)
Done
- same for "Season 1-2"
Done
- "The Broken News" should sort under B, not T
Done
- That's it :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:26, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @ChrisTheDude:. All done.-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:28, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- The lead image is missing alt-text.
Done
- Some of the language links are disambiguation pages.
Done
- Since the table can be sorted on quite a few columns, you'll have to wikilink every cell in the language column. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:44, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. All done @MPGuy2824:- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 11:07, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Between 1993 and 1996
The first year here should be either 1994 or 1995, since she had no movies released in 1993.
- ref 3 (ebay) doesn't work
- Support in advance, on text and accessibility, since I expect you to fix the above issues. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:53, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @MPGuy2824. Please let me know if there are any pending issue that need to be addressed.-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 17:49, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- The wikilinking of languages in the table was undone by an IP editor. Nothing else. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:50, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @MPGuy2824. Please let me know if there are any pending issue that need to be addressed.-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 17:49, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. All done @MPGuy2824:- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 11:07, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:31, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
The 8th in the Indian constituency series from what is probably India's best-known state, Goa. I've improved the lead and added a history section, and brought the table accessibility to FL-standards. Similar, recent FL: Telangana. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:31, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98
[edit]- Lead
- Recommend deleting "Indian" from "the Indian state" since India is specified at the end of the sentence.
- Recommend wikilinking "independence of India" (and perhaps clarifying that it's from Great Britain), as well as the date (at least the year).
- Per Reservation in India, "reservation" is not a proper noun and should not be capitalized in "reservation status".
- "The 2011 census of India stated..." – "stated" sounds a little awkward; perhaps something like "found"?
- Recommend using the official name – Lok Sabha – along the lines of "A bill was passed in the Lok Sabha, the lower house of the Parliament of India, in 2025..."
- Tables
- The tables have appropriate column and row scopes, and captions.
- Recommend replacing "#" with {{Abbr|No.|Number}} on the second table.
- The number 1 should be spelled out "one".
User:MPGuy2824: This is a very interesting article. Please let me know when you have had a chance to examine my comments, and let me know if you have any questions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:06, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: Done all. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:29, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good! Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 05:37, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "The 2011 census of India found that the Scheduled Caste population was 1.74% of the total" - of Goa specifically or of the whole of India? The wording is ambiguous.
- "The population of the ST community was only 566" - same here
- Since you mention in the lead that India gained independence from the UK in 1947, is it worth quickly mentioning that Goa didn't become part of the country until 1961?
- That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:58, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude Done all. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:31, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:05, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Crystal Drawers
[edit]Will add some comments soon... – Crystal Drawers (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Very good job, I don’t see that many issues! Once these are resolved, I’ll take another look and hopefully offer my support :) Crystal Drawers (talk) 22:00, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- 1. "have been given reservation status, guaranteeing political representation, and the Constitution" - change to "have been given reservation status—guaranteeing political representation—and the Constitution"
- 2. "general principles of positive discrimination for SCs and STs. After Goa was annexed from Portugal in 1961, the same principles applied to it as well." - you can probably add a semicolon between STs and After since the second sentence is relevantly short and could easily be added to the previous
- That's really it! Again, very nice job. Let me know when you’re finished Crystal Drawers (talk) 22:00, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Crystal Drawers: Applying both these suggestions created a single run-on sentence with too many sub-clauses, IMO. I split it into two sentences after some reordering and correction (the constitution came into effect in 1950). I'm not sure about the emdash now, nor the location of the references after it, so could you please recheck? Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:34, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Understood, my suggestions were more personal preference than anything, anyways. I’ve checked it over and don’t see anything else. Support Crystal Drawers (talk) 11:49, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Crystal Drawers: Applying both these suggestions created a single run-on sentence with too many sub-clauses, IMO. I split it into two sentences after some reordering and correction (the constitution came into effect in 1950). I'm not sure about the emdash now, nor the location of the references after it, so could you please recheck? Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:34, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Source+image review from Easternsahara
[edit]- Do Bihar as either the next or the second next list that you nominate please
- I've already started work on the next nomination, but I can slot the Bihar constituencies list after that one. I can do some improvements to the list before the Nov 2025 election though. -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- File:Goa in India (special marker).svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- add "southwestern India" to alt text
- File:India Goa Assembly.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- Needs alt text
- Sorry
- File:Wahlkreise zur Vidhan Sabha von Goa.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- Pass image review preemptively
- Will do source review, after image review addressed or when i feel like it whichever comes first.
- @Easternsahara: Done the image-related suggestions that you had. I look forward to your source review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:16, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Source 1, 3 , 4, 6, 7, 8, all election citations, 13, 17, 24 info-pass
- 13, 17, and 27 should ideally have secondary sources, not worth opposing over. If you do add them, do not remove primary sourcing as well.
- 9 does not verify "and the union territory of Goa, Daman and Diu was formed" but it does for the rest
- Source 2 doesn't explicitly say the date published
- 4, 7 have page number inside citation
- Source 9 says it was published on 18 December 2017 (this may be timezone dependent?) but the wikicitation says it was published on 19 December 2017
- 18 needs page number
- Please archive 27 so others outside of India can verify too. IABot was really slow yesterday, so if you don't do this right now, thats fine but eventually come around to do it.
- "Accordingly, one constituency (Pernem) in the assembly is reserved for candidates of the Scheduled Castes." technically no citation, you could do cite map for this as well.
- "There were geographical changes to the constituencies and one seat was reserved for members of the Scheduled Castes." add a source to the end of this for consistency
- "There were geographical changes to the constituencies." see above
- "The Goa Legislative Assembly is the unicameral legislature of the state of Goa on the west coast of India." no citation, although it would be easy to find a citation for these just copy a Featured quality level citation from Goa
- "and after Goa was annexed from Portugal in 1961, the same principles applied to it as well"
- "The population of the ST community in Goa was only 566 in the 2001 census which is why no seats were reserved for them during the 2002 delimitation. Three communities (Kunbi, Gawda, and Velip) were added to the ST list in 2003, which brought the ST population to about 10% of the state's total in the 2011 census" Per MOS:NUMERAL (or something on that guidance page) you should have two qualities near each-other which are comparable to be in the same format. I would say to change percentage to number as that would be more accurate.
@MPGuy2824: nice work, have a few comments. If you need clarification, ask.
- @Easternsahara: Done your suggestions: I needed to replace one ref and add a few others. I’ve added explanatory notes for some of your points. Do tell me if i've missed anything. Thanks for the thorough source review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:38, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply, I hope this gets promoted soon as Image and source review is passed, and you have gathered 4 supports. Consider reviewing Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of World Heritage Sites in Arab States/archive1 (the only prose is 2 paragraphs and in the lead). Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:14, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Bgsu98 (Talk) 06:08, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
This is the fourth of the four major ISU figure skating competitions. The results are all sourced and documented, the tables are properly formatted, a well-sourced history is provided, the sources are properly formatted and archived, and relevant photographs are used. Additionally, I have already adapted changes that were requested on similar articles to this one so as to avoid previous issues. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or comments, and thank you! Bgsu98 (Talk) 06:08, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Natalia Krestianinova and Alexei Torchinski of the Soviet Union, and Sui Wenjing and Han Cong of China, are tied" - don't think those commas are needed You may be right, but I don't like all of those ands in a row.
- How about "Natalia Krestianinova and Alexei Torchinski of the Soviet Union are tied with Sui Wenjing and Han Cong of China for the most titles in pair skating".....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:29, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- I can do that,
but what would you recommend for instances where there are more than two teams tied (which I have in other competitions)?
- I just realized I use a different structure when there are three or more ties. I have altered the sentence per your recommendation, which is better.
- I can do that,
- The one-sentence paragraph in the history section looks a little odd. Maybe attach it to the end of the one before....? I have joined it to the following paragraph, but also re-edited it to make it flow better. Let me know what you think.
- "while a points system allows member nations to enter additional competitors or teams" - the word "while" is not appropriate there and can be removed
Done
- Don't think a "see also" for World Figure Skating Championships is needed as it's linked in the prose
Done
- That's all I got - nice work as ever! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
User:ChrisTheDude: I have addressed your feedback. Thank you! Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:58, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
User:ChrisTheDude: I have addressed your follow-up feedback. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:32, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:57, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:25, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
MPGuy2824
[edit]- In the table in the "Records" section, either make the cell with the text "Most championship titles" to have colgroup scope OR eliminate the cell completely and move that text (somehow) to the table caption.
- In the same table the scope for the "Pairs" should be rowgroup.
- I didn't see any other accessibility-related problems. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:09, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
User:MPGuy2824: Those should now be fixed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:18, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:01, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
OlifanofmrTennant
[edit]- The infobox logo needs improved alt text, it should better describe the logo and not just say its a logo.
- I really don't think anything further is needed. Especially such a nondescript logo as this one.
- Under "History" paragraph 3 misspells "Megève" as "Magève"
- Thank you for catching that!
- Under "Cumulative medal count" the wording on "Countries that no longer participate are indicated in italics with a dagger (†)" seems slightly misleading, the USSR doesn't not participate it simply doesn't exist
- Okay, I have had nothing but problems with this particular issue. I, personally, see no value in drawing particular attention to the fact that certain countries that no longer exist are no longer eligible to compete. Like someone is going to think the Soviet Union or Yugoslavia are going to somehow rack up future medals? However, no matter how many attempts I've made to remove this nonsense, it is inevitably reverted by the same user. Their explanation: "It's necessary to note which countries can improve own medal record and which can not because they are either dissolved (like Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia) or unable to participate at World Championships anymore (like FSR)." Anyway, this is not a hill I'm willing to die on. I have rewritten the blurb as follows: "Countries or entities that can no longer participate for whatever reason are indicated in italics with a dagger (†)."
- Couldn't really find much, good job on this ping me when done Olliefant (she/her) 13:23, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
User talk:OlifanofmrTennant: Thank you for your input! Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:09, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support Olliefant (she/her) 17:49, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- @OlifanofmrTennant: Thank you! I also have this FLC if you are so inclined. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:41, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Erick (talk) 01:50, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
After getting List of Billboard Latin Pop Albums number ones from the 1990s FL, I wanted to get into the tropical side of the 1990s once more. As always, I look forward to addressing any issues brought up in the comments. Some of albums I remember from my days living in New Jersey during in the 90s. Ah the memories... Erick (talk) 01:50, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Tropical Albums (formerly known as Tropical/Salsa Latin Albums), is a chart " - no reason for that comma after the brackets
- "Since its inception, the chart had been published on a fortnightly basis with its positions" => "Initially, the chart was published on a fortnightly basis with its positions"
- "basing it on electronic point of sale data" => "based on electronic point of sale data"
- "and was the bestselling tropical of 1990" => "and was the bestselling tropical album of 1990"
- "tied for the most number one albums of the decade" => "tied for the most number-one albums of the decade"
- "Merengue music, which rivaled salsa music in the 1980s,[16] also saw its popularity rise in the 1990s" => "Merengue music, which rivaled salsa music in the 1980s,[16] saw its popularity rise in the 1990s"
- "Juan Luis Guerra, was credited" - no reason for that comma
- "outside of the working-class" => "outside of the working class"
- You use both "best-selling" and "bestselling"
- "Cuban music saw a resurgence in mainstream interested" => "Cuban music saw a resurgence in mainstream interest"
- "second bestselling Latin album of all-time " => "second bestselling Latin album of all time "
- "as the bestselling world album of all-time" => "as the bestselling world album of all time"
- Ref 1 gives an error -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:54, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude Thanks for the comments! Let me know if I missed any! Erick (talk) 17:43, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- All the images are missing alt texts. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:24, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 Added alt texts to images. Can't believe I forgot about them. Erick (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Wikilink the first uses of merengue and salsa.
- "Buena Vista Social Club is the second bestselling Latin album of all time in the US as of 2017" - See if you can find a ref that's more recent for this.
- Supporting, in advance, on accessibility and prose, since I trust you'll get them done. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:25, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 Apologies for the late reply and thank you for the support in advance! Erick (talk) 18:34, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 Added alt texts to images. Can't believe I forgot about them. Erick (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk 08:57, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Wicked is a 2024 American musical fantasy film directed by Jon M. Chu and written by Winnie Holzman and Dana Fox. It adapts the first act of the 2003 stage musical by Stephen Schwartz and Holzman, which in turn is based on Gregory Maguire's 1995 novel. A re-imagining of L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz and its 1939 film adaptation, the film follows Elphaba Thropp (played by Cynthia Erivo), the future Wicked Witch of the West, and her friendship with her classmate Galinda Upland (played by Ariana Grande), who becomes Glinda the Good, before Dorothy Gale's arrival from Kansas into the Land of Oz. This is my twelfth film accolades list to be nominated for featured list status, and I largely based the format off of the accolades lists for The Artist, Barbie, The Big Short, CODA, Dune, Dunkirk, If Beale Street Could Talk, 1917, Oppenheimer, The Shape of Water, and Slumdog Millionaire. Birdienest81talk 08:57, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- Is there a way to vary the language of the image caption so as not to say "received accolades" three times in one sentence?
- Jo McLaren's name sorts incorrectly
- Note d should not have a full stop -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:33, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Done - I have read your comments and have made corrections based off of them. Thank you for your feedback.
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:54, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- The scope for the header cells that span multiple rows should be "rowgroup". e.g. Academy Awards.
rowspan="1"
can always be eliminated. That is the default. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:32, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Crystal Drawers (talk) 18:59, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because the series holds a special place in my heart and I’d like to see it gain another FL. I’ve modeled it mainly after List of Cobra Kai episodes, but also used other featured lists as a reference. I’m hoping to get this promoted in order to continue my work towards a featured topic of BoJack's seasons. I tried to use only the most high quality sources when citing, and tried to make each paragraph in the lead brief yet comprehensive. Fire away! Crystal Drawers (talk) 19:00, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Over the course of six seasons, 76 episodes of BoJack Horseman were released between August 22, 2014, and January 31, 2020[2][13]—including one standalone Christmas special." => "Over the course of six seasons, 76 episodes of BoJack Horseman were released between August 22, 2014, and January 31, 2020,[2][13] including one standalone Christmas special."
- "Each subsequent season would receive universal acclaim" => "Each subsequent season received universal acclaim" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:22, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: thank you for the comments, they have both have addressed :) Crystal Drawers (talk) 00:03, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
Octave
[edit]Based on Special:Diff/1311598945
Reliability
- What makes The Stony Brook Press, a student-ran newspaper, reliable?
- Not a big fan of VALNET sources, but Collider is more reliable than most so should be fine.
- Rolling Stone used appropriately.
- All others look fine.
Consistency
- Mixture of Title Case, Sentence case, and Capitalising Every Word: pick one per WP:CITEVAR.
- Date format is consistent.
Other comments
- When double quotes are used in quoted text (e.g. "He said "Goodbye!" and left."), the inner quotes should be converted to 'single quotes'.
- Would recommend bundling citations 2–7 and 17–21.
- Ref 2: replace WP:ALLCAPS for emphasis with italics.
- Ref 5: link website; add archive link.
- Ref 8: no need for italics and quotes around show name.
- Ref 16: italics for show name.
- Ref 22: TV show names should be in italics per Wikipedia style and MOS:CONFORM.
Spotchecks – checking 25% of citations:
- Ref 1: pass
- Ref 5: pass
- Ref 8: does not state Will Arnet plays BoJack, but everything else is a pass
- Ref 14: pass
- Ref 22: pass
- Ref 23: pass
Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 16:54, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @UpTheOctave!: I apologize for the late response. Thank you for the comments, all should be fixed now, except for one; I have tried bundling the sources but it always gives me an error page and doesn’t allow me to do so. Thank you again! Crystal Drawers (talk) 13:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of testing bundling; feel free to revert if this breaks anything. Regardless, this is a pass on sourcing. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 22:28, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
Aoba47
[edit]- File:BoJack Horseman Logo.svg should have ALT text. The author and source links for the image are no longer working, and they should be replaced, ideally with something from a more official source. I would also include archived versions of these links to avoid any potential headaches for link rot and death.
- This has already been raised above, but the lead has two instances of citation overkill, one in the first paragraph and the other in the last paragraph. It seems unnecessary to need six citations to support this series being released on Netflix, as I would imagine that there would be a single source that would cover this. I would do citation bundling for the other instance. I know that you said that you ran into an error message with this, but this is something that can be done on Wikipedia, so I would recommend reading up on it more and trying again.
- The phrase, released through streaming, seems off to me. I would instead combine the first two sentences of the lead to say something like the following: BoJack Horseman is an American adult animated tragicomedy created by Raphael Bob-Waksberg for streaming on Netflix. I took this from List of Stranger Things episodes. It makes this part more concise and just reads better.
- The list does not mention the anthropomorphic aspect of this series, which seems like a big gap to me. It could be helpful to have an overview sentence about the world and the focus on Hollywoo before getting into BoJack Horseman's storyline.
- Correct me if I am wrong about this, but the entire series is not focused on BoJack doing an autobiography in an attempt to revive his career? From my understanding, this is the focus for only the first season, while the lead makes it seem like the show's primary storyline. It could also be useful to bring up the themes and subject matters discussed on the series.
- The following sentence is too long and should be revised: After coming up with the idea for the series in 2010, Bob-Waksberg successfully pitched BoJack Horseman to Netflix in late 2013, where the entire first season was created in only 35 weeks in order to comply with a set release window of summer 2014. I would recommend presenting this information is separate sentences. If you need help with this, it could be helpful to look at how FLs for episodes handle this, like List of Private Practice episodes, List of The Good Place episodes, or List of Bluey episodes (or the Stranger Things list linked above).
- I do not think that this part, with viewers mainly only watching the first few episodes of the season, is entirely correct. The prose for this part is primarily attributing the mixed reception for the show's first season to viewers, when these reviews really came from critics. From my understanding, Bob-Waksberg had attributed this to critics getting limited access to the first season (and at the start of this interview, he talks about only sending the first six episodes to critics). This is further supported by the IndieWire review even gets into this, as they mention only having access to the first six episodes). At the end of this clip, Bob-Waksberg also discusses the reaction to the first season.
- On a somewhat similar note, while I know what is meant by "drastic tonal shift", I think that more context would be helpful for this, as the prose does not actually say what this "shift" really is, so I could see it being confusing to unfamiliar readers.
- I believe that Bob-Waksberg voluntarily ended the series with its sixth season, but I would clarify that in the lead. It is good to have information here about why the show ended rather than just listing when it ended.
- I would incorporate the part about season six being released in two parts in the lead rather than above the season six table. It would be better to have this information together in the lead as it would be more easily accessible for readers that way. I have the same comment for the information about the Christmas special. I would avoid having this information buried in the list.
- Could the Collider citations be replaced with higher-quality sources? It is okay if that is not the case, but I would imagine that this show has received a lot of coverage to the point that higher-quality sources would have discussed these points.
I hope that these comments are helpful. Best of luck with the FLC! Aoba47 (talk) 00:33, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): ~ L 🌸 (talk) 09:33, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
After reading a lot more French literary criticism than I expected, I am confident that this is a fully complete and comprehensive list of adaptations of the tragic love story Manon Lescaut. (I split it out from that article, where I first wrote it, for better summary style.) This is my first FL nomination so I am very eager for feedback! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 09:33, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Adding a comment for whoever does the image review: I've also collected a gallery of related images on the Talk page, and I would highly value advice as to whether any of these should be added to the article. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 06:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98
[edit]Considering I have a background in French Literature, I figured I should assist with this review, though my focus was 19th century and not 18th century. Also, I was not familiar with this work prior to this article.
- I've not heard the phrase "without marriage" versus "outside of marriage".
- You have some British spellings (ie. "humour") and some American spellings (ie. "dramatize"). You should pick one and stick with it.
- "These operas varied widely..." I would say they "vary" widely since they presumably still vary.
- "In the theatrical and operatic adaptations, Manon's three lovers are combined into just one." I recommend perhaps modifying the end of the sentence to clarify "one character".
- Is there a wikilink for "cinemofono"? I'm guessing if there were one, you'd have used it.
User:LEvalyn: Overall, the article is very well written, as you can see by the very small number of recommendations I have. Please let me know if you have any questions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:48, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your comments, I appreciate it! For the first item, I changed to "without marrying" because something about the phrase "outside of marriage" bothers me; let me know if that still sounds off to you. Also, alas, my own native EngVar is an abominable combination of British and American, both "humour" and "dramatize", ie, Canadian English; regrettably, the article is currently consistent. Your other notes I have addressed as you suggest. Nothing to wikilink for cinemofono; I haven't been able to turn up any information about it, really. Thank you again for taking a look! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 01:31, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- I will trust you when you say the English is consistent with Canadian English. The rest is good. I am happy to support. I will also come back to do the source review for you in a few days. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:43, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
Source review (9/25/25)
[edit]- Random spot check of sources checks out.
- Formatting of sources appears to be correct and appropriate. I would recommend providing wikilinks for sources (ie. Rotten Tomatoes) when available.
Source review passes. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:16, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for coming back for the source review, appreciate it! I've added some more wikilinks to the sources. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:10, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Key scenes that thteey consistently include are the reconciliation at Saint-Sulpice, the scene with the Italian prince" - sould you give a tiny bit more context to this? Who is reconciled? Who is "the Italian prince"? This sentence seems to assume a level of knowledge of the story which nothing up to this point in the article has imparted
- Notes 6, 10 and 13 are sentence fragments so should not have full stops -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:42, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Great point about those plot details, thank you-- I've added more context. Please let me know if it still feels unclear, or if you think the article would benefit from including a longer summary of the novel's original plot. I've also removed those full stops. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 00:11, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:36, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from TechnoSquirrel69
[edit]Wow, I'm glad my suggestion for a split has already landed up at a quality assessment venue! There's a few comments I made at the Manon Lescaut PR that also apply here, so I'll copy them over. I'll hopefully be back for a more thorough review next week. Citation numbers from this revision.
- Could you briefly go over how reliable Jean Sgard is?
- Was there an RSN discussion about the reliability of the English National Ballet?
- Do we have anything better as a source than Kenneth MacMillan's own website? I see a book in the article about that ballet that could serve as a replacement.
- MOS:WEBITALICS advises against using the
|publisher=
parameter for websites. - I'd recommend switching citation 17 to sentence case to match everything else. Use
|url-status=live
. Add the publication date. - Unitalicize the year in citation 29.
- Italics for the titles in citations 31, 36, 39, and 40 (and maybe a few more too).
- I wouldn't recommend providing URLs for Adams 2023 or Leichman 2017. The DOIs already link to the same places, and the links imply free access (the
|doi-access=free
attribute causes this behavior, for example). If you'd like to keep them, use|url-access=subscription
consistently. - En dash between the years on Klossner 2002.
Let me know if you have any questions! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:04, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for this, and now I feel silly that I didn’t double check those peer review comments myself before nominating here! I’ll work through them and let you know when they’re all done. For the first point, about Jean Sgard, he’s a French literature professor and the world expert on Prevost; everybody else cites him all the time. The article relies on him a lot because I sought out his books intentionally as the best source on the topic. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 22:38, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- All right, I think I have now addressed all but two of these! 1, I started a discussion at RSN about the English National Ballet site but actual consensus will have to wait for the discussion. And 2, I'm not sure what you mean by "use
|
" regarding citation 17. Where does it need to be used? Also, let me know if you still have questions/concerns about Sgard -- I can dig up some quotes about him from the sources, I think Angela Scholar's introduction to Manon has some kind of explanation of his influence on the scholarship. Thanks again for your suggestions! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:10, 27 September 2025 (UTC)- Whoops, I always seem to trip over myself when using the {{para}} template — fixed! Your changes look good to me so far. I'll try and make time for a full prose review later this week, but please go ahead and ping me if I forget. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:28, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, I understand now! I set that URL status to "live". As an update on the RSN discussion, there's only been one comment there, which says
I don't see why anyone should doubt their reliability
. So I feel pretty sanguine about that source. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 19:05, 3 October 2025 (UTC)- The RSN discussion was archived without any further comments. I'm personally satisfied that the source is appropriate for its use in this context. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:36, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, I understand now! I set that URL status to "live". As an update on the RSN discussion, there's only been one comment there, which says
- Whoops, I always seem to trip over myself when using the {{para}} template — fixed! Your changes look good to me so far. I'll try and make time for a full prose review later this week, but please go ahead and ping me if I forget. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:28, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- All right, I think I have now addressed all but two of these! 1, I started a discussion at RSN about the English National Ballet site but actual consensus will have to wait for the discussion. And 2, I'm not sure what you mean by "use
Yes, definitely use website= for websites and publisher= for printed sources. The only exception I know of is if the document you access on-line is a PDF, then you can use publisher=. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:37, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Idiosincrático (talk) 15:38, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
The Gold Coast is a city and local government area in Queensland, Australia and is divided into 81 suburbs and localities (they're virtually the same). It's an amazing city which, from what I often see, is not well known outside Australia. Beaches, mountains, rivers, high-rises, Monaco-esque marinas, and woeful housing affordability, what more could you want! Idiosincrático (talk) 15:38, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Steelkamp
[edit]I'll review this. Steelkamp (talk) 15:43, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Is there a source for the suburb vs locality column?
- Each division is designated a suburb or locality in the Place names gazetteer citation linked in the title of the table Idiosincrático (talk) 05:19, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments by Bgsu98
[edit]Note: The following were originally posted as a drive-by comment:
- The table looks to be mostly formatted correctly, but ensure that all of the columns have appropriate column scopes. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:46, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Column scopes fixed, cheers! Idiosincrático (talk) 04:42, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Great! I will look at the article more closely this weekend... Seems like an interesting topic. Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:15, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Column scopes fixed, cheers! Idiosincrático (talk) 04:42, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Additional comments
- What is meant by "gazetted"?
- The city's divisions are gazetted into 52 suburbs (urban areas) and 29 localities (rural areas),[6] they are stretched from the Queensland state border to the south, the Coral Sea to the east, the Albert River to the north and the Gold Coast hinterland and Scenic Rim to the west. – That comma after (rural areas) is inappropriate. Use either a semicolon or separate into two sentences.
- The largest division is the Southern Moreton Bay Islands locality (83.9 km2), it is also the only unpopulated division. Again, inappropriate use of a comma. Recommend use of a semicolon.
- Is "PO Box" is preferred abbreviation for post office box in Australia?
- The table has a column for locality v. suburb, but what is the difference between these two designations?
- Recommend flipping the 2016 census and 2021 census columns. As currently presented, the math is backwards when calculating the change.
User:Idiosincrático Please let me know if you have any questions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:46, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- I linked gazetted to government gazette, which I admit is an outdated term with the advent of the internet but it's used a lot in references so I kept it in. I fixed the other small stuff, linked the column header for suburb vs. locality with the relevant Suburbs and localities article and removed the PO box abbreviation. Thanks for the review! Idiosincrático (talk) 09:23, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:54, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
Image review
[edit]Very happy to see this in FLC, been to a few of them before to see relatives. Also my first time conducting an image review, so patience is appreciated. Icepinner 13:50, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- File:Gold Coast suburbs map.jpg — CC BY SA 3.0
- This could benefit a caption.
It probably wouldn't need ALT text cause it would just be the same thingNeeds ALT text
- This could benefit a caption.
- File:CSIRO ScienceImage 7482 Highrise development at Southport Queensland.jpg — CC BY SA 3.0
- Needs ALT text. Can the image description be changed so that it isn't a direct copy paste from the website?
- File:Surfers Paradise, QLD skyline.jpg
- Needs ALT text
- File:Broadbeach skyscrapers, Gold Coast, Queensland, 2020, 01.jpg
- Needs ALT text
That's all I have. Location of the photographs may not be necessary since the description parameter already does the job. Icepinner 13:50, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Alt-texts are required even if they are similar to the captions. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:11, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks for the clarification. Icepinner 00:55, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
@Icepinner: – All addressed, thank you for the review. Idiosincrático (talk) 04:49, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, passing image review. Icepinner 06:59, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments by SounderBruce
[edit]- First paragraph could be fleshed out with some basic details about the city as a whole (total population, rank among Australian and Queensland cities, total area, etc.) to provide context.
- Consider changing up the first sentence of the second paragraph, which repeats "The City of Gold Coast".
- Link to the term "gazetted"?
- "they are stretched" is awkward, perhaps "they stretch" to maintain the tense?
- The areas should use {{convert}} to add square mile figures.
That's all I have from my first pass. SounderBruce 23:12, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- I think I've addressed everything here. I opted not to include any area info as references are inconsistent between ABS and council. I mentioned population and economy statistics instead. Thanks for the review! Idiosincrático (talk) 11:56, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- The economy sentence reads very promotionally; I suggest only mentioning the largest industry and dropping terms like "key strength". I also think that some of the population comparisons can be trimmed, as mentioning Brisbane's size is probably not needed here. The repeated use of "the LGA" to begin paragraphs should also be addressed. SounderBruce 04:08, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- I restructured the economy sentence as suggested, cut all the pop. comparisons including Brisbane (leaving just the mention of the city), and fixed the LGA issue. Thanks again! Idiosincrático (talk) 09:14, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- The economy sentence reads very promotionally; I suggest only mentioning the largest industry and dropping terms like "key strength". I also think that some of the population comparisons can be trimmed, as mentioning Brisbane's size is probably not needed here. The repeated use of "the LGA" to begin paragraphs should also be addressed. SounderBruce 04:08, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- I'd be tempted to merge that opening one-sentence "paragraph" with the next one
- "The ABS-defined Gold Coast–Tweed Heads significant urban area (SUA) had a population of 750,997 people, it is" - either change "it is" to "and is" or change the comma to a semi-colon
- "they stretch from the Queensland state border to the south, the Coral Sea to the east, the Albert River to the north and the Gold Coast hinterland and Scenic Rim to the west" => "they stretch from the Queensland state border to the south to the Albert River to the north, and from the Coral Sea to the east to the Gold Coast hinterland and Scenic Rim to the west"
- Both notes need full stops
- That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I think I've addressed everything. Thank you for the review! Idiosincrático (talk) 05:00, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:33, 24 September 2025 (UTC)s
- Nominator(s): Tone 20:43, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
Colombia has 9 World Heritage sites and 13 tentative sites. Standard style. The list for China is already seeing support so I am adding a new nomination. (It took me a while to address the comments for China since that list is massive, but this time it is a bit shorter nomination.) Tone 20:43, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
Easternsahara
[edit]- In the map, could you use red to represent cultural sites, green to represent the two natural sites and blue to represent the mixed sites. Then you could replace the sites with multiple locations which use green and blue with turquoise or purple or orange, your choice. This is common in most other maps for lists (as you know)
- "World Heritage Committee three times" could you specify all times
- a Pleistocene refugium" → "refugium during the Pleistocene" per MOS:SOB
- "the site was listed as endangered upon" → "the site was listed as endangered, after"
- "The situation has improved by 2015" → "The situation improved by 2015,"
- "in 1540 as" → "in 1540, as"
- "Spanish colonization of the region" link to Spanish conquest of the Muisca. I think that Spanish colonization of the Americas would be too broad and that Spanish conquest of New Granada is the wrong region.
- "The tombs are often decorated with polychrome paintings with geometric designs or animal and human motifs, and with stone carvings. " → "The tombs often feature polychrome paintings with geometric designs, animal and human motifs, and stone carvings. " I think "or" can be removed unless you're saying that they featured either the geometric designs or motifs with stone carvings. If all of them are carved in stone, then I'd just add "stone-carved" after "feature"
- "aggregations" link to Shoaling and schooling
- "marine life," I think a colon would work better instead of a comma since a lengthy dependent clause follows
- the hammerhead sharks" singular works better
- "Spanish influences" link to Spanish Colonial architecture if this was specifically during the colonial period, otherwise Spanish architecture works
- "Department who" comma before who
- "sombrero aguadeño" this is directly linked to spanish wiki but per H:FOREIGNLINK you should use Template:Interlanguage link
- "The site is shared with Argentina (a section pictured), Bolivia, Chile, Ecuador, and Peru" link al the countries? optional but maybe helpful
- Link "endemic" to Endemism, unfamiliarity
- "rock art through millennia" for instead of through is more common, I am not sure about this use of through
- "The paintings include scenes with dances, battles, and ceremonies, as well as depictions of plants and animals. " remove "scenes with" and "depictions of"
- "indigenous communities" link to Indigenous peoples in Colombia
- "The canal connects Cartagena, Colombia's main port, with the Magdalena River, country's main river, which however is not navigable in its delta due to obstacles" → "The canal connects Cartagena, Colombia's main port; with the Magdalena River, country's main river; which, however, is not navigable in its delta due to obstacles" Please use semicolons for complex lists where appropriate, I have seen some other instances in the main list section. Please double check
- "because of lack" → "due to a lack" should use a, due to is less repetitive
- "an engineering challenge" → "an engineering challenge due to its scale" is in source and adds detail
- redlink "Fritz Karsen " and link to https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Karsen using aforementioned template
Glad to see you active again, nice list, mostly nitpicks. I might continue my review later. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 01:06, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- "which is a World Heritage Site" link "World Heritage Site" to [[List of World Heritage sites in Venezuela and make the "Site" lowercase as that is what Wikipedia predominantly uses and what the article itself predominately uses.
- "agriculture, however" → "agriculture. However"
- "gold smiting" → "gold smithing"
- "Gabriel García Márquez, the workers"→"Gabriel García Márquez; the workers"
- "the third largest bridge in the world " link this to List of highest bridges or List of longest bridges or List of tallest bridges depending on what made it the largest
- "people mostly of African descent" link to Afro-Colombians
- "those from Mesoamerica" link to Mesoamerican architecture
- "marine invertebrates" link to marine invertebrates
- "evolution of life" link to Evolution of life
- "Museum"→"A museum" (sentence fragment rn)
- File:Colombia location map.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Baluarte de Santo Domingo, Cartagena 01.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Rio Atrato.JPG - PD
- File:Santa barbara dia.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Tombs in Tierra Dentro.jpg - CC BY 2.0
- File:Parque Arqueológico de San Agustín - Tumb with deity.jpg - CC BY 2.0
- File:Malpelo island NOAA.jpg - PD
- File:Cafetales, en Colombia.jpg - CC BY 2.0
- File:Jujuy Sección Quebrada Grande-Las Escaleras, Foto 1 (14960178156) (2).jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
- File:Chiribiquete view.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:ESC large ISS006 ISS006-E-14568-NurSanAndres.jpg - PD
- File:Abrazo del sol al rio.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Plaza Che, Bogotá.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:YAEL PHOTOS 898.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Santuario de Fauna y Flora Iguaque.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Puente de occidente en santa fe de antioquia.JPG - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Puente en zona de palafitos en Nueva Venecia-Sitionuevo-Magdalena-Colombia.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Ccggm Btá.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Platyceras Floresta.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
- suitable alt text for images, pass image review. Waiting for a comment on prose, @Tone: 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:04, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s):
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
06:22, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because this list is a comprehensive and accessible list which is worthy of FL status. This list mentions all of Olympic medalists from the main Olympics, Youth Olympics, and demonstration games. All of the content in the list is sourced, and it has an engaging lead and history section. It also is accessible with recommendations from my previous nomination. I created and nominated this list because of a support vote from the previous nomination. Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
06:22, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Malaysia made its debut at the Olympics at the 1956 Summer Olympics, the delegation did not gain a medal in their first five participations" => "Malaysia made its debut at the Olympics at the 1956 Summer Olympics, but did not gain a medal in their first five participations"
- There's no reason to have a capital B on badminton (this occurs in multiple places)
- "The delegation never gained a gold medal" => "The delegation has never gained a gold medal" (unless Malaysia has permanently stopped entering the Olympics)
- Link Malaysia in body as well as lead
- Link Razif and Jalani Sidek in body as well as lead
- Link 1956 Summer Olympics in body as well as lead
- Can we explain briefly why Malaysia did not compete at the Olympics until 1956?
- "After a 12-year drought of medals in the 2000 and 2004 Olympics," - this reads weirdly. Suggest simply "After failing to win any medals at the 2000 and 2004 Olympics,"
- "through Lee Chong Wei, who nearly won against Lin Dan." - who nearly won what event? How did Wei "nearly win"? Who is Lin Dan?
- "gained the first bronze medal in Diving that same year" - no reason for capital D on diving
- "four silver medals and one bronze medal was gained" => "four silver medals and one bronze medal were gained" ("was" is the singular form of the noun so not appropriate when the subject is plural)
- "In the 2020 Olympics, a bronze medal and a silver medal was gained" - same here
- "the silver being the first silver medal for Cycling through Awan" - no reason for capital C on cycling
- "The delegation never gained a gold medal" => "The delegation has never gained a gold medal"
- Awang image caption should show his name in full and not have a capital C on cycling
- Tables should sort based on surname, not forename
- "Malaysia had three medals from participants in a Mixed team" => "Malaysia has three medals from participants in a mixed team"
- Also, at which Olympics (youth or "normal") were the mixed team medals gained?
- "Malaysia gained three silver medals and four bronze medals from demonstration sports; the following are medalists in the demonstration games:" => "Malaysia has gained three silver medals and four bronze medals from demonstration sports." (no need for the "the following....." bit)
- As an aside......"I created and nominated this list because of a support vote from the previous nomination" - as per the instructions at the top, you should not nominate another article until the previous one has substantial support, not just a single !vote, but I had already written all those comments above before I noticed this, so I will leave them here anyway -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:42, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Fixed everything except:
- Badminton capitalization on tables: I think this is suitable already.
- Explanation on how Lin Dan nearly won: I do not think it is mentioned in the source.
- Then remove it, without more info it isn't really very helpful to the reader. You also haven't added what event this relates to -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:34, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
12:34, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Tables should sort based on surname, not forename: In Malaysia, there is no surname or forename.
- Olympics for Youth: I thought they were already mentioned by the year column.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
13:09, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Fixed everything except:
Drive-by comment
[edit]- I made some cosmetic adjustments to the table for you. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:19, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Crystal Drawers
[edit]1. The word "gain" is used three times very close to eachother in the lead, could you replace at least one of them?
2. "in the Olympics at the 1956 Summer Olympics at Melbourne sending a total of 32 athletes" - change to "in the Olympics at the 1956 Summer Olympics at Melbourne, sending a total of 32 athletes"
3. "first silver medal from Cheah Soon Kit and Yap Kim Hock who participated in badminton…" - change to "first silver medal from Cheah Soon Kit and Yap Kim Hock, who participated in badminton…"
That's it, I’ll check the article again once these issues are fixed and hopefully support Crystal Drawers (talk) 12:24, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Crystal Drawers: fixed.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
12:34, 16 September 2025 (UTC)- Excellent! Very nice job on the list, happy to support
- Also, consider checking out my FLC (if you have the time, of course, no pressure!) Crystal Drawers (talk) 12:37, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): User:Easternsahara
Another World Heritage Site list which will (hopefully) become a Featured List. Palestine has five Sites that are already inscribed, with 13 on the tentative list. The list follows the typical World Heritage Site list structure, modeled specifically after the Egypt list. Due to Palestine's unique relationship with UNESCO, due to the Arab-Israeli conflict, Gerald Waldo Luis has included two paragraphs in the lead to address those. Therefore, this also includes some secondary coverage, mostly in the last paragraph of the lead. As Gerald has done most of the work, but has not been active for some time, I have decided to nominate it for him. I look forward to addressing your comments, thank you. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 02:21, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Easternsahara, thank you for making this FLC on behalf of me, and I'm glad to see that this nomination has only made the article even better! Yes, I have not been able to maintain a consistent activity for a while as you can tell. I'm going to move out to a new country for study and there's just so much going on, I couldn't afford time for WP even if I wanted to. I hope it's not a burden for you to handle all the comments here, and I think you deserve as much credit as I do. Thanks once again! GeraldWL 04:30, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comment
[edit]- There are 12 properties in the tentative list on both the UNESCO site and the table here, but the text says there are 13 in 2 places.
- "Prior to its leave, Israel": That phrase reads oddly and isn't referenced. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:10, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- fixed both, thanks! 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 13:47, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Comments by Richard Nevell
[edit]@Richard Nevell:, I have done everything that you have pointed out. The Jerusalem site didn't have a rationale for endangerment explained on any of the conservation reports. I chose to keep the Doundation for the Defense of Democracies, but if you tell me to I will replace it.
- As a starting point, the list of current sites, tentative sites, (mostly) criteria, and inscription dates match the most authoritative source on the matter – the UNESCO website.
The one criteria I've spotted that doesn't match the source is Ancient Jericho. The WP list says it is (i)(ii)(iii)(iv), but the UNESCO website only lists (iii)(iv).
- Fixed
- The locator map is consistent with other lists of WHS. Others use colour-coding, but that's not necessary here. I have two queries:
- Color coding is used when there are both cultural and natural sites AND/OR, a site with multiple sub-regions.
Is there a reason Deir al-Balah isn't a link like the other labels?
- I have changed the labels to be shortened versions of the WHS name like in other maps, I have linked all of them.
Can the text be made larger? At the moment, the characters are almost the same thickness as the light grey lines to mark internal boundaries on the map, and some of the labels blend in as a result.
- I agree with this problem, and I have made the text bigger, please tell me if this is sufficient. I was originally going to bold it, but I think that would've been a violation of MOS:BOLD
- It's not perfect, but it's an improvement and I think making the text any bigger would end up with it bunching. It's probably as much s can be done with the map at that size. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:34, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with this problem, and I have made the text bigger, please tell me if this is sufficient. I was originally going to bold it, but I think that would've been a violation of MOS:BOLD
I wonder if it would be worth having a sentence explaining the significance of World Heritage Site status. This could be a useful source.- Other World Heritage Sites lists do not do this because it is not as relevant. If someone wants to know the significance of WHS status, then they can click on the main parent page. If someone's using printed wikipedia then they can access that page but I think there is enough context
- Fair enough. Richard Nevell (talk) 18:21, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Other World Heritage Sites lists do not do this because it is not as relevant. If someone wants to know the significance of WHS status, then they can click on the main parent page. If someone's using printed wikipedia then they can access that page but I think there is enough context
- The lead gives an appropriate level of detail, comparable to other lists of WHS. The extra political context is appropriate since the issue has significance for UNESCO generally.
You could say that "Palestine: Land of Olives and Vines – Cultural Landscape of Southern Jerusalem, Battir" is the largest WHS in Palestine,.
- Other World Heritage Sites lists do not do this because size doesn't really matter, the age of the first site (how long the country has been actively participating in unesco) and when the newest one was promoted (if it still is participating) and the number matter more. Having too much detail would violate WP:TOOMUCH, WP:SUMMARY STYLE.
- Sounds sensible to me. Richard Nevell (talk) 18:21, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Other World Heritage Sites lists do not do this because size doesn't really matter, the age of the first site (how long the country has been actively participating in unesco) and when the newest one was promoted (if it still is participating) and the number matter more. Having too much detail would violate WP:TOOMUCH, WP:SUMMARY STYLE.
In 2011, responding to allegations that they were to assign the site to a state: I'm not sure "allegations" is the right word here as it's not disputed that they haven't assigned the site to a state in their list.- No, the response was to allegations that they would assign it to a state, like palestine or israel or jordan. This didn't happen though, and UNESCO just said "we won't yet, but we will protect it from degradation and it is palestinian territory
- Quite right, I misread the sentence. Richard Nevell (talk) 18:21, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- No, the response was to allegations that they would assign it to a state, like palestine or israel or jordan. This didn't happen though, and UNESCO just said "we won't yet, but we will protect it from degradation and it is palestinian territory
- Where a site is endangered, there's a brief statement on why except for Jerusalem.
- will add
- The United States had also withdrew funding, 20% of UNESCO's total, from UNESCO in 2011, under the Obama administration, because American federal law…: that's a little repetitive. How about: The United States had also withdrew its funding of UNESCO in 2011, under the Obama administration, accounting for more than 20% of the agency's budget; this was because American federal law… I suggest adding "more than" since the source cited says "about 22 percent".
- I will put more than because fdd put that but the "about 22 percent" is about how much biden said he'll fund unesco for, not when obama initially withdrew it
- I am not familiar with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies; what makes them a reliable source of information?
- It is an American funded advocate organization for Israel. If it is deemed inappropriate then I can remove it and replace it with something else. However, this will result in the loss of the percentage info and while it is a biased source, we aren't putting any bias int he article by using it. idk up to u
The photo of the Wadi Gaza is of a section in Israel, and not part of the WHS. I'm only aware of two images of the wetlands on Commons, and neither show the area particularly well. This one is the better of the two.- Done
- The site descriptions mention when sites were added to the tentative list, but I don't think this is needed as it doesn't tell us why the sites are significant.
- I think it does, so it can become a world heritage site.
- I think it's a transient quality and doesn't need to be mentioned as one a site is on the main list when it was nominated is of secondary importance by a significant margin, perhaps not even important at all. Richard Nevell (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- I think it does, so it can become a world heritage site.
Established amid the Mamluk Sultanate: maybe Established during the Mamluk Sultanate- Done
Link Mamluk architecture- Done
- Battir's valleys and terraces are used for market garden: The grammar doesn't quite work, but either "used for market gardening" or "used as market gardens" would.
- For Battir, I think it would be helpful to give an idea of the age of the landscape that has been designated, as in when were the terraces created.
named after the namesake saint: This is a bit clunky, and we might as well say "Saint Hilarion".- Agree
The site also includes Herodium, a Roman castle whose fortress was converted into…: While this is in line with what the UNESCO source says, it wasn't a castle in the commonly understood sense (though as a fortified high-status residence its purpose is actually pretty close). For clarity, I suggest The site also includes Herodium, a fortified palace that was adapted into…- Done
- Side note: It is very surprising that the article on Herodium doesn't mention the conversion into a monastery.
Hisham's Palace is referred to as a ski resort. I've not seen that term used in the articles I've read on the palace, and the term UNESCO uses is "winter resort". Maybe instead of A ski resort for the caliph … something like Intended as a winter palace for the caliph…- Done
it was ruined by the 749 Galilee earthquake: This is consistent with the UNESCO source, but implies that the site was abandoned, but there were periods of use into the 13th century (see page 60 of this source).- I have changed it to "heavily impacted"
- Instead of [[Qumran Caves|QUMRAN: Caves]] and Monastery of the [[Dead Sea Scrolls]] how about [[Qumran|QUMRAN]]: [[Qumran Caves|Caves]] and Monastery of the [[Dead Sea Scrolls]] Otherwise the list doesn't have a link to the main Qumran page.
- MOS:SOB warns against this I believe. People can click onto Qumran from the Qumran caves page.
- In that case the link to Qumran should be preferred as it is the main topic and the caves and monastery are constituent parts of the site. Richard Nevell (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- MOS:SOB warns against this I believe. People can click onto Qumran from the Qumran caves page.
- I think it would be worth mentioning the year the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered.
That's my first pass. I think some of the descriptions may need a copy edit. The tweaks to prose that I've suggested are not comprehensive. The article has a good structure and sourcing. It could be enhanced by making reference to academic works on relevant sites (eg: the source I suggested on Hisham's Palace) but I'm unsure if that's a pre-requisite for FLs. While UNESCO's description of Hisham's Palace is a bit out of step with some of the research I've seen, the other stuff conforms with my (admittedly limited) knowledge of some of these sites. Richard Nevell (talk) 18:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
- Okay I will begin the copyedit. I believe the descriptions to the sites on the lists are an introduction to the world heritage site, then the reader should click on the link(s) that interest them to learn more. Admittedly, the actual world heritage site articles are not in very good shape, so this is hindered
Image and source review
[edit]Easternsahra agreed to a QPQ for List of Singapore LRT stations, so I might as well get it over with. Icepinner 16:14, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Icepinner:, I have finished adding detailed descriptions and I have addressed the source reviews which Richard Nevell has not already fixed, thanks! 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 12:59, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I am passing the source review. My only issue is with File:Palestine Qumran BW 6.jpg; I realise that it needs a detailed description since "Qumran" is not sufficient. Once this has been fixed, I will pass the image review. Icepinner 00:49, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have added more details @Icepinner: 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:20, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Passing image review. Icepinner 00:28, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have added more details @Icepinner: 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:20, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I am passing the source review. My only issue is with File:Palestine Qumran BW 6.jpg; I realise that it needs a detailed description since "Qumran" is not sufficient. Once this has been fixed, I will pass the image review. Icepinner 00:49, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
Image review
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Bit of a pickle here; photographing buildings is allowed under FOP in Palestine, but considering how a template doesn't exist for that on Commons, would it be acceptable for me to pass the image with images having no templates on Palestinian FOP (who would claim copyright for the building considering they're really old buildings, anyways?). Icepinner 16:14, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
@Easternsahara: I'm going to continue this review tomorrow, given it's quite late in Singapore. I have seen some images that need their description parameter expanded per WP:IUP#RI. Please use this time to do so, along with any other images used here. Icepinner 16:14, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Image review (continued)
Some images have their descriptions in Hebrew, German, or Arabic. I have translated each one and will assume in good faith that those translations are accurate. @Easternsahara: I have finished the image review. Please take a look at it. Now for the source review. Icepinner 02:55, 30 August 2025 (UTC) |
Source review
[edit]Resolved
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Earwig[edit]
Spot-check[edit]
More to come, I'm a bit busy at the moment. Icepinner 02:55, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
@Easternsahara: Spot check shows promising results, only 2 concerns. Once all comments have been addressed, I will pass both reviews Icepinner 01:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC) |
Style comment: I changed the column widths in the tables to the values I am currently using. The images could be full 150px so that they are well aligned, since some are landscape and some portrait. In the tentative list, mostly you have governorate as the location but in some cases you have more specific locations - try to be consistent here. I may check the text at a later point but I see there were already some reviewers. Nice work! --Tone 20:39, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Tone:, I have fixed both the location and dates being too specific, now they are consistent with other lists. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 21:51, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
@Easternsahara: Do you intend to continue with this nomination? --PresN 12:55, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I will finish this week. I just have to add detailed descriptions to 3 more images and add a little bit more information on Jerusalem 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 21:21, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have now finished, I am just waiting for supports or more comments 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 21:51, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s):
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
05:23, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because the article is fully sourced and contains everything needed in this list. The lead, although short, describes most of the article. I did all of the things stated in the last archive (as I remember). If the lead is too short, the history section also describes the tables well. In conclusion, it meets the criteria. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
05:23, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding
!scope=col
to each header cell, e.g.! Year
becomes!scope=col | Year
. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use!scope=colgroup
instead. - Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| 1987
becomes!scope=row | 1987
(on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use!scope=rowgroup
instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- In addition to bolding a name (in "Multi-medalists") you'll also have to use a symbol. * The history section has a MOS:SANDWICH issue.
- You'll need to use the upright param for the images instead of a size (MOS:UPRIGHT).
- The flag in the infobox does not have alt text. (please
mention me on reply) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:22, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Did the column scopes and row scopes for three of the tables. Is it correct?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
09:11, 26 August 2025 (UTC)- Mostly yes, but with 2 issues:
- Please make the name as the header cell in every row, instead of the type of medal.
- The ref column's header also needs a "scope=col". -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:14, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: done. Pinging.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
07:57, 5 September 2025 (UTC)- Color should not be the only way to distinguish anything (like active competitor). Use a symbol along with the color.
- Row and column scopes are needed for every table, including in the "Medal tally by sport" and "Medal tally by individual" sections.
- Some of your tables have row scopes set for every cell in the table. The header cell of a row needs to be on its own line in the wikitext. I've fixed this for one table in the "Youth Summer Olympics". You can follow that for the other tables. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
09:08, 5 September 2025 (UTC)- @MPGuy2824: forgot to ping.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
09:08, 5 September 2025 (UTC)- Fixed a few problems that you missed out on.
- The ref column's header also needs a "scope=col". This isn't yet done. Many of the tables have this issue.
- I'll support on accessibility in advance, since I trust you'll fix the above problem. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:11, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: forgot to ping.
- Fixed.
- Mostly yes, but with 2 issues:
- @MPGuy2824: Did the column scopes and row scopes for three of the tables. Is it correct?
- Do clarify in the first paragraph whether you've completed all the suggestions provided in the previous nomination of this list. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comment from Bgsu98
[edit]MOS:SANDWICH does not bother me in this particular situation. In fact, it really can't be avoided. The image is vertical and the infobox is vertical, so it is not really a problem. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:43, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "The Philippines made its debut in the Olympics during the 1924 Summer Olympics. The Philippines won its first medal during the 1928 Summer Olympics when Teófilo Yldefonso gained a bronze medal" => "The Philippines made its debut in the Olympics during the 1924 Summer Olympics and won its first medal during the 1928 Summer Olympics when Teófilo Yldefonso gained a bronze medal" (avoids having both of the first two sentences start with "The Philippines")
- "the Philippines gained three medals, the most medals given in a specific competition until 2020" - reword - this makes it sound like it was the most medals won by any nation until 2020
- "The Philippines gained its first gold medal at the 2020 Summer Olympics by Hidilyn Diaz" => "The Philippines gained its first gold medal at the 2020 Summer Olympics when Hidilyn Diaz won [whatever they won]"
- "Moreover, one athlete has gained a medal" => "Additionally, one athlete has gained a medal"
- "the commonwealth won" - this is an Easter egg link as I doubt many people in the rest of the world are aware that it is/was officially the Commonwealth of the Philippines
- "won its first medal when swimmer Teófilo Yldefonso" - link the name
- "the men's 200 metre breaststroke aquatic event" => "the men's 200 metre breaststroke swimming event"
- "After independence from the United States, the country did not win" => "After independence from the United States, the Philippines did not win"
- "the Philippines won another medal at the 2016 Summer Olympics when Hidilyn Diaz" - link Diaz's name
- "finished second at the women's 53 kg weightlifting in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil" => "finished second in the women's 53 kg weightlifting in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil"
- "won medals, specifically Aira Villegas, with a" - there seems to be a random line break (at least on my screen) after "specifically"
- Some of the rowscopes are missing in the Medal tally by individual and Multiple medalists tables
- That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:21, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed everything except the Multiple medalists rowscopes; should I double bold them or not? The "active competitors" thing seems pretty useful.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
07:44, 5 September 2025 (UTC)- Ah, I only just noticed the bit below the table. Use a symbol to represent the ones who are active. I am pretty sure we are not meant to use bold to indicate something anyway, as screen readers used by people with vision problems don't read out the "boldness" of the words -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:53, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Did something using the {{legend}} template; does it seem okay?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
08:06, 5 September 2025 (UTC) - @ChrisTheDude: forgot to ping.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
08:10, 5 September 2025 (UTC)- Colour by itself also can't be used to designate something per MOS:ACCESSIBILITY (
Color should not be used as the sole visual means of conveying information, or for distinguishing elements such as links, templates, or table rows. Always provide an alternative method—such as an accessible symbol and/or text (for example, ✔ Approved), a colored table with an icon and text (for example, see table on the right), or clearly written footnote labels.
). You need to add a symbol as well as/instead of the colour -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:19, 5 September 2025 (UTC)- @ChrisTheDude: Should I use
this symbol?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
08:28, 5 September 2025 (UTC)- Note sure that that is an accessible symbol. I tend to use {{doubledagger}}..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Used the symbol.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
08:33, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Used the symbol.
- Note sure that that is an accessible symbol. I tend to use {{doubledagger}}..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Should I use
- Colour by itself also can't be used to designate something per MOS:ACCESSIBILITY (
- Did something using the {{legend}} template; does it seem okay?
- Ah, I only just noticed the bit below the table. Use a symbol to represent the ones who are active. I am pretty sure we are not meant to use bold to indicate something anyway, as screen readers used by people with vision problems don't read out the "boldness" of the words -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:53, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed everything except the Multiple medalists rowscopes; should I double bold them or not? The "active competitors" thing seems pretty useful.
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:21, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
MrLinkinPark333 (verification check)
[edit]I've found a lot of verification issues. As they are a lot, I will sort them.
Prose
[edit]- "The Philippines made its Olympic debut during the 1924 Summer Olympics" - fails verification of Citius, Altius, Fortius and GamesBid.
- "the commonwealth won its first medal" - Neither Sports Reference or International Swimming Hall of Fame mention that the Philippines was a commonwealth during 1928.
- "the country was awarded three bronze medals, the most for the Filipinos until the 2020 Summer Olympics." - Fails verification for 2 reasons. BBC Sport does not mention the 1932 Olympic medals for the Philippines. This source also does not have their 2020 medals because it was written before the Olympics started.
- "After independence from the United States, the Philippines did not win another medal until the 1964 Summer Olympics" - citation needed as Olympedia does not mention the Philippines independence nor their medal drought.
- "and his brother Mansueto "Onyok" Velasco - "Philippines at the 1996 Summer Olympics Olympedia source doesn't state that the Velascos are brothers.
- Petecio's Olympedia citation needs to be moved and go after "women's featherweight boxing finals".
- Paalam's Olympedia citation needs to be moved and go after "men's flyweight boxing finals".
- Last part of the History section "Aira Villegas ... semi-finals" needs the extra space removed. Currently, the "In the 2024 Summer Olympics" sentence looks uncited, even though it has a citation.
- "These Olympians are entitled to government incentives under Republic Act 9064 and Republic Act 10699." - citation needed.
- "This excludes the Wushu Tournament Beijing 2008, which was not an official Olympic demonstration sport for the 2008 edition." - citation needed
Tables
[edit]- Three tables fail verification of the medallists' home regions. They are Medals gained from the Summer Olympics, Medals gained from the Youth Summer Olympics and Medals gained from Mixed teams.
- There is failed verification from Olympedia in the Medal tally by sport, Medal tally by individual and Multiple medalists tables. This is because Olympedia's IOC sponsorship ended in 2023. Therefore, they don't have any coverage from 2024.
- Panay News does not specify that Tio won the IKA Twin Tip Racing event, as part of the men's kiteboarding.
- Is the years supposed to be the timelines that each athlete competed, or when they won their medals? This is confusing as, for example, Yulo won both of his medals in 2024. In the table, his years are listed as 2020-2024.
Minor issues
[edit]- In the prose, I see issues of sources not giving the same exact weight classes and Olympic cities.
- Prose also has issues of sources not specifying that the bronze medal matches for boxing (2020 and 2024) occurred in the semi-finals.
- Tables also have issue of sources not given exact swimming length and boxing weight classes.
- For 2024 boxing in the Medals gained from the Summer Olympics table, IOC does not state classes. They instead use the weights.
Oppose I am very concerned about the uncited and failed verification I found in the prose. I am also concerned about the failed verification of the home regions in the three tables. There are also minor issues, such as weight classes and Olympic cities not being specified in the source. Therefore, I will have to oppose because of the major failed verification issues. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:18, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:20, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
I'm back after a few months with the 7th in the Indian constituency series. I've improved the lead and history sections, and brought the table accessibility to FL-standards. Similar, recent FL: Telangana. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:20, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
Easternsahara
[edit]- Source 1 only verifies the 2023 part, not the "3 December" part. Please change it to verify all of this
- Infoboxes should ideally be used for things already mentioned in the text, so they usually do not need citations. "First past the post" and "December 2028" are not mentioned in the article, so they need citations. Also, could you add "current legislature" to 16th Rajasthan Assembly as it changes
- Could you elaborate on the last sentence please? There is no "current_legislature" param in the {{Infobox legislature}} template. -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- I see, then you can just ignore
- ✓ I've removed the specific date for the last election and removed the tenative date of the next election since it was speculative (counted as last election +term limit). -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- Could you elaborate on the last sentence please? There is no "current_legislature" param in the {{Infobox legislature}} template. -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- Source 2 verifies the sentence directly preceding it, and the second instance, but not "the unicameral state legislature" or that the seat is in Jaipur.
- Source 3 is good, I wonder if you should use Template:Cite map?
- Source 4 is good
- Source 5 will not load for me yet, is it dead? but you put "pp. 6, 12." while others u just put a colon and the page number. For sake of consistency, you should stick with either one of these styles
- I will check the other sources later, but 6 has the same concern as 5 with the page numbers
- File:Rajasthan Assembly.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:IN-RJ.svg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Wahlkreise zur Vidhan Sabha von Rajasthan.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- Please change alt texts to the last map (3rd image) to align with Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Alternative text for images#Maps and diagrams I think first map is okay but if you want to specify northwest india then its up to you
- I've added north-west to the first map image. I'm not that good at writing alt-text so this might be a good opportunity to learn for me: I read MOS:ALTMAP, but since the current alt-text for the 2nd map is "Map showing the constituencies of the Rajasthan Legislative Assembly", I'm not sure what to do. The best I can come up with is "Rajasthan's ST seats are concentrated in its south and the east, while the SC seats are quite dispersed". Is that good enough? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:06, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Yes it is good enough 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 12:09, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Done. The rest were done before. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:50, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- There are large white spaces created on my monitor from the images in both the "Constituencies" and "History" sections, not sure what can be done about this
- The prose itself is quite clear
Thanks, if you ever nominate future lists similar to them, I'll review 'em. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:26, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Easternsahara: I've done a lot of these and have a couple of questions for you (inline). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:06, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please apply this advice here to the Telangana list as well
- citation nine still has page numbers inside the citation and not next to it.
- sources 12, 13, 15-17, 19-25, 26-28 are georestricted and thus I can not review them. I would assume good faith as this list has not showed errors and the sources themselves verify very minor things
- 11, 14, 18 passes, just verifies existence
- 10 pass both uses
- Please add a source to verify that Jaipur is the capital of the state, it might be a case of WP:SKYBLUE, but I find the refutations to that essay to be convincing.
- Source review pass, support
- ✓ Fixed both of the latest issues you've pointed out. I'll fix Telangana and the other constituency lists too. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:08, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- Why did the number of seats change in 1966? There's no note to explain that.
- District(s) should just be District as no constituency is in more than one district
- That's it -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:27, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- ✓ Fixed both. @ChrisTheDude: thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:36, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:44, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Alavense (talk) 15:10, 21 August 2025 (UTC) and Mattximus (talk)
Mattximus and I are working on bringing up the lists of municipalities of all Spanish provinces up to the standard seen in other similar featured lists. Our two previous nominations have already garnered some support, so I am nominating another one. This is the 12th nomination in the series and the list has therefore benefited from the improvements suggested by reviewers in the previous eleven. Formatting is also similar to the others. In any case, all comments and suggestions are welcome and will be acted upon in a timely manner. Thanks in advance for all the comments! Alavense (talk) 15:10, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
Image review
[edit]Here'll be an image review from me. Arconning (talk) 15:07, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- File:Malaga in Spain.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Karte Gemeinden und Gerichtsbezirke Provinz Málaga 2022.png - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Vista de Málaga desde el castillo de Gibralfaro, España, 2023-05-20, DD 113.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Captivating Views of Old Town Marbella.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Mijas 05.jpg - CC BY 3.0
- File:Castillo de Vélez-Málaga.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Fuengirola Puerto 02.jpg - CC BY 3.0
- File:Estepona aerial.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- Alt-text and captions are proper.
- Can say that image review shall be passed.
- Thanks for taking the time to review the list, Arconning. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 06:39, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support - I got nothing :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:29, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:45, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
This is the list of governors of Nigeria's state of Abia from when the region was called Eastern then split into East Central and two other states, then East Central was split into Anambra and Imo states, then Abia carved out of Imo. I have made significant improvements on this, and it now meets the criteria for FL. Feedback would be very much appreciated. Thank you already. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:45, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comments
[edit]- rowscopes for the "primary" column in each row are missing.
- Is it possible to show the bullets in the "Works cited" section? Looks a little odd without them. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:11, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I added 30em to the refbegin enclosure, now the indentation is clear, wdyt? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:52, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- I just checked a few of the latest FAs in Template:Announcements/New featured content and there seemed to be a mix of how this is done (some had the bullets, while some didn't). I mistakenly assumed that it might have been something that you might have missed. Since you seem to have done it on purpose, I'll leave it up to you if you want to keep the 30em or not. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:17, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oh yes, and also thank you for the heads up for the "!scope=row" for primary. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:56, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- I just checked a few of the latest FAs in Template:Announcements/New featured content and there seemed to be a mix of how this is done (some had the bullets, while some didn't). I mistakenly assumed that it might have been something that you might have missed. Since you seem to have done it on purpose, I'll leave it up to you if you want to keep the 30em or not. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:17, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I added 30em to the refbegin enclosure, now the indentation is clear, wdyt? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:52, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Reading Beans
[edit]I am reviewing this version
- Source review
- Pass.
- Reliable enough for the information being cited — pass
- Consistent date formatting — pass
- Consistent and proper reference formatting — pass
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable — pass
- Spot checks on sources match what they are being cited for — pass
Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 15:44, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Add
|first=Chuma |last=Uwechia
to Ref13 - Wikilink John Darnton in Ref14.
- Wikilink University of California Press in Ref15.
- Remove the (Nigeria) in Ref20
- Add
|first=Emmanuel |last=Oladesu
to Ref25 - Add
|first=Emmanuel|last=Ugwu
to Ref39 - Add
|date=5 December 2019
to Ref41 - Add
|first=Charles|last=Ajunwa
to Ref42 - Add
|date=9 June 2024
to Ref43 - Add
|date=19 May 2023
to Ref44 - Add
|first=Peter|last=Uzoho
to Ref69 - Add
|date=13 May 2024
to Ref70 - This is optional: Adding Agency Reporter i.e News Agency of Nigeria to the author parameter for Ref72. Generally, I would advise you replace every source with no attributed writer to a source that has a byline. For informations such as the one in Ref71 and Ref72, is easy to get a source with a byline. Let me know what you think.
Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:23, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans Done, thank you! Channels and Punch reporting an election winner in their capacities as national mediums is reliable enough for me, hence, why I cited them. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:00, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good. Pass. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 18:46, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans Thank you so much for taking your time!!! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:10, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good. Pass. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 18:46, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "After the regional system was dissolved on 27 May 1967 by Yakubu Gowon" - clarify who he was
- "Administrators were usually appointed to rule a state when there is" - tenses of the two verbs are different
- "and got re-elected under " => "and was re-elected under "
- No real need for notes e, f, and g to be in italics -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:26, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude Right, thank you so much for spotting those, an extra eye is always beneficial. I fixed them. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:14, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:56, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- @PresN Hi there. Pinging you to take a look at this one, please. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:02, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure why you pinged me- at present this nomination has a passed source review and a single supporting content review. That is not enough for promotion. I strongly encourage you to ask other reviewers and wikiprojects to take a look at the nomination. One way that is often successful is performing reviews for other nominations and linking back to your nomination. --PresN 00:33, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- @PresN Hi there. Pinging you to take a look at this one, please. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:02, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): dxneo (talk) 09:35, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
South African singer-songwriter Tyla's discography includes one studio album and two EPs. Her self-titled debut album features the singles "Water" which peaked at number 7 on the US Billboard Hot 100 and won the inaugural Grammy Award for Best African Music Performance, as well as other singles such as "Jump" and "Push 2 Start", among others.
This will mark my fifth nom, I guess. dxneo (talk) 09:35, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comments
[edit]- The "Music videos" table is missing column scopes.
- The same table has MOS:COLHEAD issues.
- The "Peak chart positions" column needs to have scope=colgroup in most of the tables. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:24, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure if I understand the last instruction. I tried to cross check with SZA discography, but still. dxneo (talk) 10:03, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- I've just corrected the issue in the SZA discography list. Please look at that and fix the same problem here too. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Done. Thank you so much. dxneo (talk) 09:49, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- I've just corrected the issue in the SZA discography list. Please look at that and fix the same problem here too. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure if I understand the last instruction. I tried to cross check with SZA discography, but still. dxneo (talk) 10:03, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Tyla released her debut self-titled studio album on 22 March 2024, which incorporated her digital EP of the same name released on 1 December 2023, it debuted at number 24 on the US Billboard 200 chart" - the second comma should be a semi-colon (or alternatively make that part its own sentence)
- Also does "it debuted" refer to the album or the EP? The wording is ambiguous
- "In 2025, as Tyla prepared for debut mixtape's release" => "In 2025, as Tyla prepared for her debut mixtape's release"
- " She was featured on "When I'm with You by Thai musician" - quote mark at end of song title is missing
- "She remixed WizTheMc's "Show Me Love"" - pretty sure this should be "She sang on a remix of WizTheMc's "Show Me Love"" as I doubt she was the one who did the actual remixing
- "though some noted her Coloured identity might affect her U.S. reception" - I don't think "coloured" needs a capital C mid-sentence
- Coloured is a racial group, it should be in uppercase. dxneo (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- "In July 2025, Tyla announced a mixtape featuring "Bliss" and "Is It" via social media with a pre-save link." - as this mixtape apparently hasn't been released yet, I would be tempted to move this sentence to the end
- I wanted to structure it the way it was announced and (will/would be) released. dxneo (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- In the EPs table you give the title of the more recent one as "WWP" but in other tables you refer to it as "We Wanna Party". Which is its actual title?
- My apologies. dxneo (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- why is the text in the videos tables suddenly smaller? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed. dxneo (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:36, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Octave
[edit]Some comments on sourcing, not a full review:
- A whole bunch of refs are missing archive links, I suggest running the IA bot.
- These are likely for charts like Billboard, but since the archive doesn't automatically update after a song is added, I removed them. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Refs should be cased consistently as sentence or title per WP:CITEVAR.
- Not sure what this is aimed at. Which refs are in error? dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hyphens used as dashes should be converted to dashes per MOS:CONFORM.
- Done. However, this one is problematic since we copy and paste URLs and title from the source. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Refs 10 and 97 are duplicate.
- Refs 16 and 36 are duplicate.
- Refs 21 and 40 are duplicate.
- Ref 70 is the wrong link.
- Inconsistent use of publisher parameter: some use it, some don't.
- I've only used
|publisher=
on refs like this one, since it's clearly stated on the URL/article. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've only used
- Ref 10 should be Rolling Stone, not Rolling stone.
Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 09:02, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @Dxneo for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:18, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hello UpTheOctave! I have addressed all the issues you've raised and also left comments were necessary. Thank you for the review. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Re: reference casing, per WP:CITEVAR, (part of WP:Citing sources and thus required by WP:FL?), we should use a consistent style of citation capitalisation. After this RfC, consensus was found that just copying the capitalisation used by a source is not a valid citation style. As such, all references should be consistently capitalised, be that in sentence case, title case, or an alternative.
Realistically, this discussion is about whether only title and sentence case are acceptable for reference titles. We explicitly do not have a defined allowable citation style. This will create insane amounts of busy work that does nothing to improve the site, will result in countless additional fights over whether specific terms should be capitalized, restricts editors' freedom, and will only do more to harm the integration of new editors. For what? Because people like certain things and don't like the style others choose to apply consistently? There's plenty of styles I don't like which I recognize as being okay and acceptable. I stand on the side of logic, and what best allows Wikipedia to continue to grow and be improved upon. If we keep forcing ridiculous nitpicky rules like this it just adds more barriers and rules for people to get involved and contribute
I don't believe this is important. No one has time to re-edit all the FAs, FLs, and GAs to correct title case, especially since it doesn't improve the site's quality. To me, it's merely a preference I don't share. Honestly, I'm not willing to fix every "to," "and," "it," and so on in every reference. It's too much work for little benefit. dxneo (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Re: publishers, you have references like 8 and 13 that say "The Official South African Charts" for both work and publisher, which is redundant. Besides that, including the publisher parameter should either be done for all references or none; otherwise, we do not have a consistent style of citation as required by WP:CITESTYLE (another part of WP:Citing sources).
- Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 13:11, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- References 8 and 13 were added by a bot, and I didn’t want to intervene, but I’ll remove them. As I mentioned, I’ve only included the publisher for sources that clearly state it. I don’t think consistency applies here. Does this mean I should use {{Cite magazine}} throughout the article for consistency just because I’ve used it multiple times? dxneo (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm happy with the publisher parameter now as the ones that still use it are to differentiate between the website and the publisher. I missed that in my first round; my apologies.
- As for capitalisation, no-one is saying you have to personally go back and edit all old FAs, FLs and GAs. That's not the requirement posed by the FL criteria, which we are evaluating on this article alone. I recognise you agree with Josh on this one, but that opinion was rejected in the RfC I linked. There is a consensus that this is how we should cite sources: no matter how much you disagree it is required by the FL criteria. There exists a userscript (User:ZKang123/TitleCaseConverter) to make this process easier, so the actual workload required is quite limited. Honestly, I agree with you that going back and changing things retroactively would be a waste of time, but that's something to start a new RfC about and not something that pertains to this discussion. Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 22:16, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- I still think that was a bad close that left way too many questions to be answered, and I wish I had challenged it at the time. The close really didn't properly assess that there wasn't a consensus on the matter and the original question was oddly phrased in a way that people focused too much on the aspect of changing an all caps title being what disqualified it from a consistent reference formatting. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:06, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- It’s not something that I care enough about to oppose over, but as long as Citing sources states
preserving the capitalization style of each individual source is not considered a consistent style
, this is technically required by the Fl criteria. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 12:18, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- It’s not something that I care enough about to oppose over, but as long as Citing sources states
- I still think that was a bad close that left way too many questions to be answered, and I wish I had challenged it at the time. The close really didn't properly assess that there wasn't a consensus on the matter and the original question was oddly phrased in a way that people focused too much on the aspect of changing an all caps title being what disqualified it from a consistent reference formatting. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:06, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- References 8 and 13 were added by a bot, and I didn’t want to intervene, but I’ll remove them. As I mentioned, I’ve only included the publisher for sources that clearly state it. I don’t think consistency applies here. Does this mean I should use {{Cite magazine}} throughout the article for consistency just because I’ve used it multiple times? dxneo (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Re: reference casing, per WP:CITEVAR, (part of WP:Citing sources and thus required by WP:FL?), we should use a consistent style of citation capitalisation. After this RfC, consensus was found that just copying the capitalisation used by a source is not a valid citation style. As such, all references should be consistently capitalised, be that in sentence case, title case, or an alternative.
- Hello UpTheOctave! I have addressed all the issues you've raised and also left comments were necessary. Thank you for the review. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delegate note: I appreciate UpTheOctave! catching source formatting issues and all the work done for source reviews. I'm not as annoyed about the reference capitalization issue as Josh is, though I also disagreed with the close for that RfC; that said, I ultimately think it's a minor quibble and not a major issue. It doesn't affect readers in any noticeable way. If the only thing in a source review that wasn't done was capitalization issues, I wouldn't hold up the nomination for it. --PresN 12:53, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the kind words, @PresN. Overall, I agree; it's absolutely not something I would oppose a nomination over. I just think that since the guidelines have changed it's important to at least bring it up, as it is technically covered by the criteria now. I like to make a complete survey of sources when reviewing: whether my formatting advice is ultimately implemented isn't a huge deal, and is certainly not as bad as issues with deadlinks or reliability. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 14:47, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, let's get this over with already. UpTheOctave!, would you please make an example out of at least two references (not charts or certifications) as to how I should go about this please? The script isn't helping at all. dxneo (talk) 22:46, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've changed references 2 and 11 to title case as an example. I tried to get the script to work but oddly it isn't working for me either. To be perfectly honest, I don't really mind whether you revert my examples or change the other references to title case, I'm personally not considering these comments as outstanding for the purposes of promotion. Sorry for the bother. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 23:16, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Done. dxneo (talk) 13:13, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've changed references 2 and 11 to title case as an example. I tried to get the script to work but oddly it isn't working for me either. To be perfectly honest, I don't really mind whether you revert my examples or change the other references to title case, I'm personally not considering these comments as outstanding for the purposes of promotion. Sorry for the bother. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 23:16, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, let's get this over with already. UpTheOctave!, would you please make an example out of at least two references (not charts or certifications) as to how I should go about this please? The script isn't helping at all. dxneo (talk) 22:46, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the kind words, @PresN. Overall, I agree; it's absolutely not something I would oppose a nomination over. I just think that since the guidelines have changed it's important to at least bring it up, as it is technically covered by the criteria now. I like to make a complete survey of sources when reviewing: whether my formatting advice is ultimately implemented isn't a huge deal, and is certainly not as bad as issues with deadlinks or reliability. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 14:47, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delegate note: I appreciate UpTheOctave! catching source formatting issues and all the work done for source reviews. I'm not as annoyed about the reference capitalization issue as Josh is, though I also disagreed with the close for that RfC; that said, I ultimately think it's a minor quibble and not a major issue. It doesn't affect readers in any noticeable way. If the only thing in a source review that wasn't done was capitalization issues, I wouldn't hold up the nomination for it. --PresN 12:53, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk 08:56, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating the 2024 Primetime Creative Arts Emmys for featured list promotion because I believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I followed how RunningTiger123 formatted the 2007, 2020, 2021, and 2022 ceremonies for this edition. Birdienest81talk 08:56, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Drive-by comments – area awards are not marked and the grammar in the category changes section should be cleaned up. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:51, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- @RunningTiger123: Done - I marked up the area awards based on this list of winners, and I cleaned up the grammar in the category changes section to past tense. I based the grammar on similar sections in similar FL-quality Creative Arts Emmys lists. Hopefully, these changes satisfy your comments.
- Support - I got nothing. Outstanding work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:20, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
OlifanofmrTennant
[edit]- No ratings data is present
- There is no news source providing information of ratings for the Creative Arts Emmys ceremonies. While a portion of the event is broadcast on FXX, Nielsen doesn't usually report the ratings for this show.
- "[Downtown Los Angeles], [California]" delink California per WP:GEOLINK (same with infobox)
- Done
- Delink "Only Murders in the Building: One Killer Question" and "Shōgun – The Making of Shōgun" as they arent articles and dont have a section on the series pages
- Done
- Ryan Gosling is listed as being nominated for "Host: Ryan Gosling". Peacock lists the episode as "Ryan Gosling: April 13, 2024" as does ScreenRant. IMDb says "Ryan Gosling/Chris Stapleton", as does TV Guide, lot of variety in what its called.
- While those sources have different variations of what that specific episode was titled, for the sake of continuity and since there is no established official title to SNL episode, it is preferred based on previous Primetime Emmy Awards ceremony lists with featured status that the episode title that was submitted for consideration and therefore listed in the official PDF of nominations will be the one used in these type of articles.
- Theres a MOS:DASH violation in Ceremony Information
- I have difficulty locating where the MOS:DASH violation in that section. Is it within the body of the paragraph? Or is it in one of the references.
- Add a Use American english template
- Done
- Thats what I found ping me when done. Olliefant (she/her) 17:49, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- @OlifanofmrTennant: - I have addressed your comments, but there are some points of contention underneath some points.
- --Birdienest81talk 23:51, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support I took care of the dash problem myself Olliefant (she/her) 03:07, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, could an Efn be added to note the other names for the SNL episode? Olliefant (she/her) 13:31, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- @OlifanofmrTennant: Done - I added a note to the other names of the episode with a disclaimed mentioning that the list will follow the title mentioned in the official press release by the TV Academy. I chose the Peacock and TV Guide ones since IMDb is normally not a reliable source and Screen Rant has not been confirmed as a reliable source.
- Actually, could an Efn be added to note the other names for the SNL episode? Olliefant (she/her) 13:31, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- @OlifanofmrTennant: - I have addressed your comments, but there are some points of contention underneath some points.
Octave
[edit]Hi, I'm Octave and I'll be your source reviewer today! Please ping when you're done with the following, or if you have any questions. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 14:30, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Reviewed Special:Permalink/1314778349
Reliability
- WP:ABOUTSELF sources (Emmy, Peacock) are used appropriately
- All other sources are generally reliable
Consistency
- Can't see anything wrong here, nice work
Other comments
- PDFs should have page numbers or ranges per WP:PAGENUM. In this stlye, you could use {{rp}}
- Ref 7: original link is dead, change url-status accordingly
- Ref 8: italics for Saturday Night Live
- Ref 9: I'm not sure what's gone wrong. The URL points to Pedersen 2024, while the overall citation seems to be a duplicate of ref 15?
- Ref 10: website has updated. These should be replaced with direct references to [2] and [3] as the archive is too old
- Ref 16: I'm seeing the title as "2023 Emmys Set January Date On Fox After Delay Amid Hollywood Strikes"
- Ref 17: year is 2024, not 2025
- Ref 18: where are you seeing a date?
- Ref 19: year is 2024, not 2025
Spotchecks
- Ref 6: pass
- Ref 7: pass
- Ref 8: pass
- Ref 10: pass
- Ref 11: pass
- Ref 19: pass
- Ref 21: pass
That's all for now. Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 14:30, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- @UpTheOctave!: Done - Addressed all your comments with some points. For refs 4, 5, 6, and 18, there are no page numbers listed for those PDFs since all the pages (or the entire PDF) are being utilized as citation for the lists of either nominations, winners, or rule changes. Refs 1 and 2 use page numbers because the information inside the PDF used to support the facts are only on that specific page. For the videos, I've changed the URLs to the direct videos, but due to copyright protections, the videos in the web archive links are disabled. The videos themselves in the actual website still has the videos working.
- --Birdienest81talk 07:33, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- That's great, thanks. Happy to give a pass on sourcing. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 15:24, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- For the tables before the Nominations and wins by program" section: The information isn't really a table (the columns have nothing to do with every row). To indicate that it isn't a "data" table but a "presentation" table see MOS:LTAB. You add
role=presentation
to the table, drop the caption, change all '!' to '|' and it should be ok. - For the tables after that: tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| ''[[Palm Royale]]''
becomes!scope=row | ''[[Palm Royale]]''
(on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use!scope=rowgroup
instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if the above points aren't clear.
- You'll need to use the upright param for the images instead of a pixel size (MOS:UPRIGHT).
- (please
mention me on reply) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 13:41, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Done - I have read your comments and made the necessary adjustments.
- --Birdienest81talk 10:31, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- The table captions need to be removed for the presentation tables.
- row scopes:
- In a couple of tables it hasn't been attempted at all.
- In others, you need to make the first character of the line into an exclamation mark(!), instead of a pipe (|). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:36, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- I just went ahead and fixed the tables myself- the distinction between LTABs and DTABs is confusing. --PresN 13:23, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): GraziePrego (talk) 08:33, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it to be an interesting topic of a recently-concluded and (in my opinion) interesting election. GraziePrego (talk) 08:33, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comment
[edit]- Would you mind adding a couple of images to the article (per criteria 5b)? Many of the retiring and elected members have photos on their own pages and it would make the article a lot less text-based. Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:32, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping for @GraziePrego Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:33, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Staraction, I've added some images to the retiring members section and made a couple of boxes for the elected senators from the territories, do you think they look ok? I can make equivalent boxes for the elected senators from each state if you think that would look good too. Thank you :) GraziePrego (talk) 01:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- They look good, although you should add alt text to them. There may be other accessibility issues I'm not completely familiar with too; @MPGuy2824 would know more about those than me. Feel free to add images to the senators too! Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:15, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping for @GraziePrego. I really should remember to do these in the actual reply more, apologies. Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:16, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think they do have Alt text already? It might not show up in source editing for the retiring images because that's an excerpt from 2025 Australian federal election. GraziePrego (talk) 02:19, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- 👍 I checked. They have alt-texts. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:13, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- They look good, although you should add alt text to them. There may be other accessibility issues I'm not completely familiar with too; @MPGuy2824 would know more about those than me. Feel free to add images to the senators too! Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:15, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Staraction, I've added some images to the retiring members section and made a couple of boxes for the elected senators from the territories, do you think they look ok? I can make equivalent boxes for the elected senators from each state if you think that would look good too. Thank you :) GraziePrego (talk) 01:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping for @GraziePrego Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:33, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
History6042
[edit]I will get a review in soon, History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:33, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- @History6042 I think this fell through the cracks. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:14, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
|+ caption_text
as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead. - Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding
!scope=col
to each header cell, e.g.! Year
becomes!scope=col | Year
. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use!scope=colgroup
instead. - Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| 1987
becomes!scope=row | 1987
(on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use!scope=rowgroup
instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:24, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you @MPGuy2824, I believe I have completed those changes. GraziePrego (talk) 10:53, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Bolding of text wouldn't be read by a screen reader. You'll have to mark incumbency (sitting members) and wins with different symbols.
- rowscopes are needed for the "Summary by party" and "Disendorsements and resignations" tables too.
- I wasn't a fan of the raw html in the Senate tables, so I tried replacing it in one of the cells with a template. Feel free to revert if you don't like it or it doesn't work for some reason.
- The tables in the "Senate" section aren't standard tables (e.g. in the ACT subsection there, the first column isn't for "Sustainable Australia" only). I don't know how to overcome this (without changing the table structure), but maybe PresN might have a suggestion. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:03, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Incumbency and wins are now marked with symbols, will do other changes. GraziePrego (talk) 07:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Rowscopes done and I'm fine with your template in the Senate tables :) I'll wait a little bit to see if PresN has a suggestion about how to change the Senate tables that have been done in a slightly unusual way :) GraziePrego (talk) 07:45, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Rowscopes done
You still need to do it for the "Summary by party" table. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:13, 20 August 2025 (UTC)- Done, thank you GraziePrego (talk) 02:07, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- The problem here is that the information isn't really a table (the columns have nothing to do with every row), you're just sticking boxes next to each other so that it doesn't take up a million rows in one skinny table. There's a way to indicate that it isn't a "data" table but a "presentation" table - (MOS:LTAB). I converted one table as an example. You add role=presentation to the table, drop the caption, change all '!' to '|', and since that killed the styling of the party cells I added in some. Just do the same for the rest of the Senate tables and I think you're good. --PresN 12:41, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Done, thank you for showing me that example one :) GraziePrego (talk) 02:22, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Rowscopes done and I'm fine with your template in the Senate tables :) I'll wait a little bit to see if PresN has a suggestion about how to change the Senate tables that have been done in a slightly unusual way :) GraziePrego (talk) 07:45, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Incumbency and wins are now marked with symbols, will do other changes. GraziePrego (talk) 07:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you @MPGuy2824, I believe I have completed those changes. GraziePrego (talk) 10:53, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:11, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Ibjaja055 (talk) 18:54, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating List of governors of Bauchi State for Featured List status. The article presents a comprehensive chronological record of all military and civilian governors of the state from its creation in 1976 to the present. It is well-structured in a clear tabular format, supported by reliable references, and remains stable without rapid changes or disputes. The list meets the Featured List criteria of being comprehensive, well-written, verifiable, and stable, and I believe it merits recognition as a Featured List. Ibjaja055 (talk) 18:54, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
Reading Beans
[edit]I am reviewing this version
- Source review
- Passed.
- Reliable enough for the information being cited — pass
- Consistent date formatting — pass
- Consistent and proper reference formatting — pass
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable — pass
- Spot checks on sources match what they are being cited for — pass
I’ll get this done before 24-48-hours. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 12:58, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- The Infobox says that the Governor can be addressed as “The Honourable”. I am not really into politics but isn’t this title reserved for members of the legislative body? I would encourage you to cite informations in the Infobox. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 13:00, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans Thank you very much for your review. I have fixed it, kindly have a look now.Ibjaja055 (talk) 12:57, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- There are a lot of unsourced information here and it’s making it hard to review (for me). I advise @Ibjaja055 to go through the article and fix the sourcing issues so that the body supports the lede. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 15:33, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans I have fixed the issue with the use of proper in-line citations and I have also either removed or replaced some marginally reliable reliable references. Can you check again? Thank you. Ibjaja055 (talk) 05:31, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- There’s no page number in Ref2. Also wikilink Cambridge University Press. Also, since it’s a book change the date to
|year=2019
- Add
|8 June 2023|newspaper=Premium Times
to Ref3. - Change the newspaper parameter on Ref4 to
|newspaper=The Guardian
- Wikilink African Economic History in Ref5
- You need to clarify that Ref6 is dissertation (see WP:THESIS). Use {{Cite thesis}}.
- Add
|year=2020
to Ref7. - Change the newspaper parameter in Ref8 to
|newspaper=Business Day
- I don’t know the reliability of Neptune Prime. Can you shed some light on it or better still, replace it?
- Wikilink The New York Times in Ref10.
- Wikilink Channels Television in Ref11.
- Wikilink TheCable in Ref12.
- Change the newspaper parameter in
|newspaper=Blueprint
in Ref13 and Ref14. - Ref15: the newspaper’s name is in the title. Seperate them and add
|newspaper=Daily Trust
to the cite template. - Add a date to Ref16 and change the newspaper parameter to
|newspaper=Premium Times
- Wikilink TheCable in Ref17.
- Remove the
|location=
in Ref18. - Remove the author parameter in Ref19 and use
|website=Ecoi.net
in the website parameter. - Use
|newspaper=Vanguard
in Ref21&22. - Change the newspaper parameter to Premium Times in Ref33&34.
- Change the newspaper parameter in Ref35 to ThisDay.
This is all for now before I move to the next. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 13:52, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans I have duly effected all the corrections. Thank you for the review. Can you take a look now? Ibjaja055 (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have fixed the remaining issues. I’ll do the spot checks later tonight. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:51, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Ibjaja055, I couldn’t do the spotchecks as promised due to real life issues. From my spotchecks, only Ref1 failed verification. It made no mention of the Government House, being the residence of the governor. I believe there are sources out there that can verify this. Another suggestion; the first Northern Region section dived into a lot of federal politics that does not belong to this list. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:20, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans I have fixed your recommendation and I have also removed the failed source along with the claim. Can you check again now? Thank you. Ibjaja055 (talk) 04:59, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Ibjaja055, I couldn’t do the spotchecks as promised due to real life issues. From my spotchecks, only Ref1 failed verification. It made no mention of the Government House, being the residence of the governor. I believe there are sources out there that can verify this. Another suggestion; the first Northern Region section dived into a lot of federal politics that does not belong to this list. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:20, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have fixed the remaining issues. I’ll do the spot checks later tonight. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:51, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
Support on sources. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:11, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
VWF
[edit]- First subsection of the list needs to be "Northern Region"
- Second subsection needs to be "North-Eastern State"
- Third needs to be "Bauchi State"
- Change table title of Bauchi State list from "Military, administrators and civilian governors of Bauchi State, Nigeria" to "Heads of the government of Bauchi State"
- Change table title of Northeastern State list from "Military Administrators of the Northeastern Region, Nigeria" to "Military administrators of the Northeastern Region"
- Website name of Citation number 18 needs to be "European Country of Origin Information Network"
- Change the
|title=
of citation number 22 from PROFILE to Profile. - Do the same for citation number 10
- For citation number 6, modify the lastnames of the authors, their last names are Ota, Ecoma and Wambu. Either remove the initials entirely or add them to the firstnames instead.
- For citation number 14, remove the "Daily Trust" in the title.
- In both tables, remove the "No" column; it serves no purpose.
- The "! scope="row"" in the No. column before, add it to the Governors' name such that, for the Governors' name, you now have
! scope="row" |Rasheed Adisa Raji
. Take note that I removed the boldface from the name. This makes it clear that this is the primary column. - The Bauchi State list table is pretty confusing. The "Notes" column serves no purpose. The political parties also need to be cited. Why not adopt the methods used in other similar lists, as in List of governors of Rivers State? Or remove the Note column and replace it with Political Party. The Tenure needs to be cited too, just repeat the citations in the prose that verify it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:21, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @Ibjaja055 for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh thank you for pinging me. I will review and get back ASAP! Ibjaja055 (talk) 22:32, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces I have reviewed and updated the article with your recommendations. Can you check now?
- Courtesy re-ping of Vanderwaalforces; note that the original ping was never sent- you have to sign the edit that you tag someone or it doesn't ping them for some reason. --PresN 13:12, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @Ibjaja055 for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 23:44, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
This article is a station list for the corresponding Great Northern route, which I created about a month ago and have been working on since. This is my first FLC so do let me know if I have done / am doing anything wrong. Thanks in advance, JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 23:44, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
Placeholder
[edit]- I'll do a full review shortly but one drive-by comment:
Italicised lines are those that are not constituent parts of the Great Northern route.
is not compliant with accessibility requirements because screen readers used by people with vision issues won't read out that the text is italicised -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:37, 17 August 2025 (UTC)- Any suggestions as to an alternative? Quite difficult to think of a way of doing it that's accessible but not obtrusive. The article does mention the constituent lines (Cambridge line, East Coast Main Line, Fen line, Hertford Loop line, Northern City line) and if you want I can repeat that before the start of each table as clarification for those unable to know where the italics are. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 19:06, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
- You can use a symbol instead of/in addition to the italics. See List of municipalities in Jaén which uses a color and a symbol. Make sure to use a legend too when you do this. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Done as a symbol before each line and no more italics.
- I wouldn't say a colour is necessary but a symbol would work -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Any suggestions as to an alternative? Quite difficult to think of a way of doing it that's accessible but not obtrusive. The article does mention the constituent lines (Cambridge line, East Coast Main Line, Fen line, Hertford Loop line, Northern City line) and if you want I can repeat that before the start of each table as clarification for those unable to know where the italics are. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 19:06, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
More comments
[edit]- Link all the stations named in the lead
- Done
- "Govia Thameslink Railway only share eight stations [...] this will rise to six" - maths doesn't seem to be right here
- Fixed
- "confirmed to have funded allocated to them" - funding, surely?
- Fixed
- "Half of the eighteen stations that have been closed did so" => "Half of the eighteen stations that have closed did so" (passive/active verbs don't work as it stands)
- Fixed
- "London Borough of Enfieldno surface" looks odd and I presume is a typo of some kind
- Fixed
- Notes d, f, j are not sentences so doesn't need full stops
- Done
- There are some duplicate notes which can be combined -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:25, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed
Hope that's everything. Thanks for the comments and let me know anything else that needs doing. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 17:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments, JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 17:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:28, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
|+ caption_text
as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead.- Done
- Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding
!scope=col
to each header cell, e.g.! Year
becomes!scope=col | Year
. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use!scope=colgroup
instead. Some of your columns have this, but not all.- Done
- Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| 1987
becomes!scope=row | 1987
(on its own line). If
the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup
instead.
- Done
- Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:27, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please check I've done it all correctly as I'm inexperienced with tables. Thanks for the comments, JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 17:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please wikilink the Listing column header.
- Support on table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:32, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please check I've done it all correctly as I'm inexperienced with tables. Thanks for the comments, JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 17:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Drive by comments by Mattximus
[edit]- Surely a featured list on a route should have a map of the route? Is there any metro map style maps available? I feel this is a critical piece for this list to pass. Mattximus (talk) 16:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- The map on Great Northern route is wrong; I will make a new one now. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 20:45, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- Done. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 21:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Comment
[edit]- Please add {{dts}} to the date cells, as sorting seems to be broken (especially in the Former stations table). SounderBruce 23:58, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Done; table sorting is fixed. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 21:47, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Octave
[edit]I'll do the source review for this one, poke me if I don't post anything in a couple days. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 22:29, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Reviewed Special:Permalink/1312492792
Reliability
- What makes this particular newsletter from RailFuture a reliable source?
- It is a publication by the staff of what I would consider a reliable source – RailFuture is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia article and is a fairly prominent advocacy group. The only other way to reference it would be a
{{refn}}
with the two timetables showing the change, but that seems a bit sloppy and like WP:SYNTH.
- It is a publication by the staff of what I would consider a reliable source – RailFuture is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia article and is a fairly prominent advocacy group. The only other way to reference it would be a
- What makes Disused Stations a reliable source?
- Disused Stations is used quite widely on Wikipedia as a source. It is not self-published or wiki-like as the average person cannot contribute to it without that information being cleared by their editorial team. That level of independent scrutiny (as opposed to a blog or wiki) is what, in my opinion, makes it RS. The only crucial information it is used for is the relevant dates for Tempsford station; as a temporary instalment, it is omitted by R Butt. I could not find a DMY date for Holme hence the use of disused stations; the idea of it opening with the line is also verified by its own article.
- Other sources look fine for reliability.
Consistency
- Inconsistent use of archive links for websites.
- Inconsistent linking of websites and publishers. Note that WP:DUPLINK does not apply to reference sections.
- Inconsistent use of publisher parameter for book sources.
- Inconsistent casing of reference titles, please use sentence or title case per WP:CITEVAR.
- Standardised to sentence case
- Inconsistent segmentation of ISBNs.
- Standardised as 978-0000000000
- Inconsistent use of Govia Thameslink Railway vs. Great Northern for pages on the same website.
- Fixed (I think)
- Date format looks consistent.
Other comments
- Since you've used archive links, {{cite web}} presumes the links are dead. For those that are still live, please add
|url-status=live
. - Ref 2: needs page number.
- Not available via google books, hence the chapter no. as an alternative. Had a look and I can't get it from a local library either.
- Ref 5: where are you seeing 31 March 2010 here? I can only see the month and year.
- No idea, replaced with 'march 2010' per page 41.
- Ref 6: similarly, where are you seeing a date?
- The map says "2 February 2025" on it when you open the pdf.
- Ref 8: ditto above.
- 18 May 2025 was the most recent timetable change and when that one was released. GTR legally have to release a 'new' timetable twice a year even if all the train times are the same.
- Ref 10: where are you seeing an author.
- No idea, think it was generated by Zotero and I didn't realise
- Ref 11: gives a 404.
- Replaced
- Ref 12: link Railfuture.
- Done
- Ref 14: missing authors.
- Done
- Ref 15: June is not the date of publication, merely the latest news.
- Removed (it's updated since anyway)
- Ref 18: I think ISBN would suffice as far as identifiers go; can probably drop the "ltd." from publisher.
- Done
- Ref 19: I would link Cambridgeshire Live.
- Done
- Ref 45: link London Transport (brand).
- Done
- Ref 46: missing author.
- Added
- Ref 47: no need to repeat British Transport Commission.
- Removed
- Ref 51: missing page numbers.
- Replaced with other references as I could not access the page numbers.
Sorry that it took so long - I have been very busy irl unfortunately. I've had some edit-conflict issues with myself (don't ask) so just check it has all worked as I'm happy to redo any bits that haven't come through. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 21:07, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 47: ISBN is throwing an error now. Still a bit uneasy on Disused Stations. Where do you see their editorial policy? I can only find an about page that seems to confirm this is self-published. If so, what makes Catford a SME? UpTheOctave! • 8va? 13:55, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Spotchecks will be done after these comments are dealt with, as some references may need to be removed. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 17:26, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 1: pass
- Ref 5: pass
- Ref 6: pass
- Ref 10: fail, says nothing about Tempsford
- Ref 15: pass
- Ref 16: pass
- Ref 19: pass
- Ref 22: pass
- Ref 24: pass
- Ref 26: pass
- Ref 28: pass
- Ref 31: pass
- Ref 48: pass
- Ref 52: fail, date not found
- Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 14:18, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98 (10/7/25)
[edit]- "Great Northern manage all except eight..." I would rephrase as "Great Northern manages..." (the company is a collective singular).
- Done
- You might choose to explain what Grade I and Grade II signify with regard to Listed buildings. Readers shouldn't have to navigate to another page to understand the basics of this distinction.
- Done
- The table appears to be nicely set up with great photos where available.
User:JacobTheRox: This is a very interesting list! Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:36, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the comments! JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 21:07, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
Support. Hopefully we’ll see future lists like this one come through FLC. 😃 Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:24, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Nominations for removal
[edit]Ancillary TV season block nominations
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The following nominations do not require comments, but are included for bookkeeping purposes. The discussion of each TV season list takes place at the respective "season 1" nomination below.
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:49, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:50, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:51, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:52, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:54, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:55, 7 October 2025 (UTC) |
- Notified: Matthewedwards, WikiProject Television
Continuing with TV season nominations (see the recent FLRC log), this article is being nominated for FLRC as the consensus has shifted to promoting these lists through GAN/FAC. This nomination also covers seasons 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 of the show. This nomination is not intended to discuss the articles' quality, but they may require work before reaching GA quality. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:47, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delist. Television seasons being nominated as featured lists are from a bygone era, so these should be removed. I don't even believe these would meet current FL criteria standards (or GA for that matter). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 14:48, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delist, I would prefer if the FLC coordinators could just delist them all, as consensus has been made and upheld thus far.
- Notified: Killervogel5, Staxringold, WikiProject Baseball
I am nominating this for featured list removal because items in this list mostly read as a record of career achievements. But the award, as the name states, is given for a specific "historic achievement".
For example, the Sammy Sosa row mentions his 1998 MVP, 66 home runs, and three career 60 home run seasons. But it does NOT mention the actual historic achievement for which Sosa was specifically given the award: hitting 62 home runs, which tied McGwire for the single-season home run record and passed the longstanding Roger Maris record of 61. The McGwire row was similar until I recently changed it to refer specifically to his 62nd home run.
Ohtani's row is a large summary of his four-year career, but barely mentions why he was actually awarded the trophy in 2001. The trophy was awarded not for his 2018 Rookie of the Year, 2019 Tommy John surgery, or 2021 MVP. It was awarded by the Commissioner for "becoming the sport’s first two-way All-Star — starting in the All-Star game as both a pitcher and a designated hitter."
This list does not comprehensively cover the subject and its defined scope. PK-WIKI (talk) 17:14, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator Killervogel5 is long gone. Page creator me can step in some. You're right that many of the descriptions need to be changed. The Sosa row includes things that happened after he received the award. I found that MLB.com does have a list of the specific achievements the award is given for:
- 2021: Shohei Ohtani for his historic season as a two-way player, including starting the All-Star Game as both a pitcher and designated hitter.
- 2014: The retiring Derek Jeter for his numerous all-time postseason records (hits, runs, total bases).
- 2014: Vin Scully on his 65 years of service to baseball.
- 2013: Mariano Rivera, who retired as the all-time saves leader.
- 2011: Ken Griffey Jr., on his great career in baseball and for being one of the most popular players of all-time.
- 2007: Rachel Robinson, on the 60th anniversary of her husband’s breaking of the color barrier and for her advancement of his legacy.
- 2006: Roberto Clemente, posthumously, during the 2006 All-Star Game in Pittsburgh and presented to his wife, Vera, and their family.
- 2005: Ichiro Suzuki for his record-breaking hit total achieved in the 2004 season, surpassing George Sisler.
- 2004: Roger Clemens for his 300th win and record Cy Young Award total.
- 2001: The Seattle Mariners for their record-tying 116-win regular season.
- 2001: The retiring Tony Gwynn for his record-tying eight NL batting titles.
- 2001: Rickey Henderson for his all-time career records in stolen bases, walks and runs.
- 2001: Barry Bonds for his single-season home run record.
- 1998: Both Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa for their record-breaking single-season home run-record chase.
- 1998: Cal Ripken Jr. in commemoration of the end of his legendary Iron Man streak.
- Some of these are very specific. Others (Griffey especially) are more broad. Clemente's doesn't directly mention his achievements at all, and the contemporaneous reference just broadly talks about how great he was. I agree this can be improved and perhaps I can achieve that to save FL status. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:33, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- There's a mistake there on Ripken. He ended his streak in 1998, but got the award in 2001, not 1998. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:43, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- That MLB page is ok as a broad overview, but somewhat incorrect in the specifics.
"1998: Both Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa for their record-breaking single-season home run-record chase."
Not really. It was awarded to McGwire the day he hit 62. Then awkwardly awarded to Sosa the next week for tying 62. But by the time the trophy was awarded, McGwire had already passed him again. The MLB page somewhat indicates it was an end-of-season dual award for "the chase" rather than for the specific "historic achievements". PK-WIKI (talk) 17:47, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- That MLB page is ok as a broad overview, but somewhat incorrect in the specifics.
- There's a mistake there on Ripken. He ended his streak in 1998, but got the award in 2001, not 1998. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:43, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Notified: RandomCritic, Kwamikagami, WikiProject Astronomy
I am nominating this for featured list removal because the prose in this 'list' completely outnumbers the list by orders of magnitude, this is probably Featured Article or at least Good Article worthy, but definitely not a FL due to failing the list part of the criteria. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 04:34, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Other concerns that I have with this list is that the entire first paragraph of the Moons of Jupiter#List section is unreferenced. Various parts of the Moons of Jupiter#Exploration section are also unreferenced. In addition, the "Visual observations" and "Photographic and spacecraft observations" are both quite short and break up the flow of the text. According to the MOS, these should probably be merged for better flow. Moons of Jupiter#Naming the third paragraph is quite short, and should be merged and it also uncited. The images are also not accesible as there aren't altexts for them. The second half of the Moons of Jupiter#Characteristics section is also uncited. There isn't a table header for screen reader accessibility either. Also note that this probably has the possibility for expansion, and a lot of the sources which this article depends heavily on could be updated. Keep in mind if all of these things are resolved, my point about the format still stands.🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:55, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- For similar reasons I would also like to nominate the following lists: Moons of Saturn, Moons of Uranus, Moons of Neptune 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 11:38, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- That we allow multi-nominations for media season lists while we work through them is a special, agreed upon case; this nomination cannot cover multiple lists. --PresN 11:44, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, I understand. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:55, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- That we allow multi-nominations for media season lists while we work through them is a special, agreed upon case; this nomination cannot cover multiple lists. --PresN 11:44, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note: the 97-row table is scrollable; if you turn that off so that it can fill out vertically (and horizontally), the prose to table ratio is about 60%/40%, or 55/45 if you make the font full-sized. Also note that you have to actually notify the people/projects that you list above, not just put their names here; I did not see any evidence that you did. --PresN 11:42, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think the list part of the article is rather overshadowed by its other things, which it would be incomplete without. Perhaps a list sub-article could be broken out but I do not think that this currently is a format "that lends itself to list format". Also thank you for pointing out that I have not notified people, but I did notify RandomCritic and Kwamikagami. Although I did not initially notify the WikiProject, I have done so now. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:55, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Notified: EF5, Easternsahara, ActuallyElite, WikiProject Weather
I've nominated this list because I don't believe it was properly scrutinized during the review process and simply is not up to FL levels as of right now. See Talk:List of Iowa tornadoes for more specifics, but what's on the table as I type this are a large table cited to a user-generated source (or one that can't be proved not to be UGC, anyway), a significant lack of comprehension listing of data that does exist in reliable sources and can be put together in an afternoon, arbitrary inclusion candidates, and general weird formatting throughout, especially in image placement and citations in the lede, the sort I wouldn't expect from featured content. Departure– (talk) 23:31, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- To clarify a few points:
- By "arbitrary", I mean the line in the sand being "intense tornadoes" being the only ones included and all others being completely discarded. No reason for this is given in the article itself.
- Typically, lists that include large amounts of tornadoes draw the line at "intense tornadoes" (F3/equivalent), such as Tornadoes in Oklahoma, but again, no reason given. The only actual line I could think of a justification for would be "significant tornadoes" (F2/equivalent), as those are what expert of tornado record-keeping Thomas P. Grazulis uses in his Significant tornadoes line of books.
- In addition, this list is missing numerous tornadoes within the "intense" range.
- Details about my UGC concern are further detailed at Talk:List of Iowa tornadoes#Tornado Paths source, but the short version is that a source cited in a table is listed as published by ArcGIS with no credits. ArcGIS is a software at the end of the day, and while it likely was produced by a reliable source (NWS or NOAA), there's no evidence beyond anecdotal comments about the scale of the source.
- In addition, the source is almost certainly a tertiary source to be avoided in favor of a more focused source.
- There is some weird formatting right outside the lede. The lede itself also doesn't follow MOS:LEDE, with information in the opening not present in the body (though, with a citation).
- Sourcing in general has been brought up on the talk page as being far from featured-level. One was revealed to likely be a blog.
- More details than I can provide quickly here can be found on the article's talk page at the anchor Talk:List of Iowa tornadoes#What in the heck?. Departure– (talk) 23:45, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- One more note: List of Iowa tornadoes is currently scheduled to appear as Today's featured list starting October 6. Departure– (talk) 23:48, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delist per my talk page comments. As much as I hate to delist an article as recent as this, it simply isn’t up to par. EF5 01:56, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Update - I have been adding tornadoes over the past week from the Thomas P. Grazulis source, I am still working on completing the list. I changed the intense tornadoes meaning and put it as F3+ rated tornadoes. I removed both non reliable sources that were mentioned and replaced them with reliable ones. I do still have some work to do with adding tornadoes in the tables, but it is in the right direction. ActuallyElite (talk) 17:38, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- By "arbitrary", I mean the line in the sand being "intense tornadoes" being the only ones included and all others being completely discarded. No reason for this is given in the article itself.
Comments from Bgsu98 (10/10/25)
[edit]I don't care much for some of the comments I've read surrounding this list. "How in God's name...?" Save it. I was one of the reviewers on this FLC and spent a lot of time assisting User:ActuallyElite with the style and prose, because the original text was pretty rough. I believe the quality was greatly improved. I did not do a source check. Anyone is welcome to challenge the accuracy or appropriateness of sources. Maybe dialing back the histrionics and offering reasonable suggestions for improving the article would be a positive step? Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:28, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Notified: Jason Rees, WikiProject Weather
I am nominating this for featured list removal because there's several typhoons that are left unsourced, especially the 2020s typhoons. According to Wikipedia:Featured list criteria, it seems like it fails at Number 3, part b; "Statements are sourced where they appear, and they provide inline citations if they contain any of the four kinds of material absolutely required to have citations." Unless the issue gets fixed, these unsourced claims are seriously hurting the FA status of this article. Hoguert (talk) 00:19, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Hoguert: Quick note, you tagged Jason Rees and WikiProject Weather as having been notified, but I don't see that you actually did notify them; please do to increase the chance that this list gets fixed. --PresN 12:02, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I am aware of this FLC having seen it on my watchlist and will see what I can do in the coming days to bring it up to scratch.Jason Rees (talk) 16:37, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Update: I have done a lot of weeding on the List of retired Philippine typhoon names and this list today and am pleased to report that the death/damage totals from the 2020s are all sourced/referenced, while all retired names and intensity information is sourced. On the overall list in particular, the damage totals will need further work to incorporate death/damage totals from outside of the Philippines, but that's a job for another night.Jason Rees (talk) 02:14, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- I will withdraw from this after the issues are addressed, and so far, you're doing a good job fixing the problems. Hoguert (talk) 00:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Update - Over the last week or so, I have done more and more weeding on the Philippine list and now have all the Philippine death/damage totals from Reming (Durian) in 2006 sourced back to the NCDC. Some of these death/damage totals have already been incorporated into the overall article, while I plan on getting them into the main overall article over the next few days.Jason Rees (talk) 10:26, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- "The name Amuyao was meant to replace Malakas, but because PAGASA selected the name to replace Aghon, which was stricken off the naming list of 2024 as a local name, the name was then replaced by Amuyag." Still unsourced. Roy, Mireille, Rananim, Xangsane, Durian are unsourced. There are typhoons in the 1990s, 2000s, and Linfa in 2020 that don't have damage/death toll estimates Hoguert (talk) 11:00, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Update - Over the last week or so, I have done more and more weeding on the Philippine list and now have all the Philippine death/damage totals from Reming (Durian) in 2006 sourced back to the NCDC. Some of these death/damage totals have already been incorporated into the overall article, while I plan on getting them into the main overall article over the next few days.Jason Rees (talk) 10:26, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I will withdraw from this after the issues are addressed, and so far, you're doing a good job fixing the problems. Hoguert (talk) 00:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Update: I have done a lot of weeding on the List of retired Philippine typhoon names and this list today and am pleased to report that the death/damage totals from the 2020s are all sourced/referenced, while all retired names and intensity information is sourced. On the overall list in particular, the damage totals will need further work to incorporate death/damage totals from outside of the Philippines, but that's a job for another night.Jason Rees (talk) 02:14, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- I am aware of this FLC having seen it on my watchlist and will see what I can do in the coming days to bring it up to scratch.Jason Rees (talk) 16:37, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
@Hoguert: Patience is a virtue since as a part of the FLC, I am trying to ensure that all death/damage totals presented are sourced, accurate and do not include economic losses.Jason Rees (talk) 11:29, 11 October 2025 (UTC)